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Look, joking aside (although I still think Apple-branded turds WOULD sell), Apple customers have never been that discriminating when it comes to hardware specifications. We "settle" on last-generation processors and the like all the time and will continue to do so for the benefit of having an Apple product in our hands thats new and shiny.

We buy into the marketing and design, not the hardware capabilities. Apple knows this and designs products accordingly. Don't waste your time hoping for really cool specs...with the exception of screen displays, I doubt you'll see any such thing.

But we'll still be here raving about it when we buy it, regardless.
 
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Will be very dissapointed if next iPhone does not have the NFC chip for smart-card apps. Already an Android phone on the market with NFC and I will be suprised if it does not become a staple of all smart phones over the next few years.
Alert system REALLY needs fixing properly in any update ASAP.
 
A dock with an HDMI out, or a dock connector to HDMI cable, or a HDMI port on the phone itself (but that's probably the least likely). What with the capabilities of the iPhone now it would just be nice to be able to plug it into a TV anywhere, without any extra hardware/software.

Besides that I think a few minor incremental upgrades will complete the iPhone '4GS' or whatever they call it.
 
I don't understand why some don't want a bigger screen. A 4in screen should be able to be squeezed into its current casing.
 
We buy into the marketing and design, not the hardware capabilities.

Or alternatively, Apple design things centred around the user experience and what the majority of users actually want, not around trying to get the biggest list of meaningless numbers on the spec sheet.

A typical user, for example, does *not* want a 4-5" phone! A few might, and a few will be very vocal about it and say "well the iPhone is not as good because it's screen is smaller". No thought about usability, portability, impact on battery life or ergonomics, or how well it fits in a pocket - just that 4.5" on the spec sheet is clearly a bigger number than 3.5", therefore apparently must be better?

David
 
Or alternatively, Apple design things centred around the user experience and what the majority of users actually want, not around trying to get the biggest list of meaningless numbers on the spec sheet.

A typical user, for example, does *not* want a 4-5" phone! A few might, and a few will be very vocal about it and say "well the iPhone is not as good because it's screen is smaller". No thought about usability, portability, impact on battery life or ergonomics, or how well it fits in a pocket - just that 4.5" on the spec sheet is clearly a bigger number than 3.5", therefore apparently must be better?

David

I think a typical user would care most about a big screen, since that's the only tangible and "cool" thing a phone has. They don't care about the OS or the A4/dual core processors. I know many that skipped over the iPhone for Android because of the bigger screen or to Blackberry for the keyboard.

But like someone else also mentioned, I think the iPhone competes right now. Android will need another year to reach the quality level of Apple's iOS and so I also think iPhone 5 upgrade will not be that impressive. But iPhone 6 will be a whole different story.
 
Or alternatively, Apple design things centred around the user experience and what the majority of users actually want, not around trying to get the biggest list of meaningless numbers on the spec sheet.

A typical user, for example, does *not* want a 4-5" phone! A few might, and a few will be very vocal about it and say "well the iPhone is not as good because it's screen is smaller". No thought about usability, portability, impact on battery life or ergonomics, or how well it fits in a pocket - just that 4.5" on the spec sheet is clearly a bigger number than 3.5", therefore apparently must be better?

David

This. The only reason I could see Apple moving to a larger screen is not for practicality, but for marketing purposes. I think some people see the big screen and somehow associate it with better or faster (the William Harding error).

A couple disadvantages I see to larger screen:

1)While I have seen the mock-ups where the 4" screen can fit on the current frame, the size of the device would indeed most likely increase as well with a larger screen.

2) The resolution wouldn't be so sharp distributing the same number of pixels over a larger area. Of course, Apple could increase the resolution yet again, but that would cause further fragmentation.
 
This. The only reason I could see Apple moving to a larger screen is not for practicality, but for marketing purposes. I think some people see the big screen and somehow associate it with better or faster (the William Harding error).

A couple disadvantages I see to larger screen:

1)While I have seen the mock-ups where the 4" screen can fit on the current frame, the size of the device would indeed most likely increase as well with a larger screen.

2) The resolution wouldn't be so sharp distributing the same number of pixels over a larger area. Of course, Apple could increase the resolution yet again, but that would cause further fragmentation.

Number two is why i don't expect apple to increase screen size soon. Plus jobs said he felt the current ppi would set the standard for several more years.
 
At a minimum what is the next iPhone going to need to compete in June 2011?

The Apple logo and several million loyal fans.
 
Most likely they'll have an 8 MP camera (does anyone care about phone MP's anymore though?)

and possibly a Snow Leopard-esque iOS upgrade where we'll see speed improvements, and a smaller sized OS since I really don't see any other features they could add onto iOS aside from a few nice jb features.
 
First time post here....

First time post ever saying that I don't really care about a hardware update. To me, the iPhone4 is plenty fast...it's smooth as butter and I don't have any issues what so ever in terms of it being 'laggy.' If anything, an updated camera (an even better camera would rock).

What I would like to see is a significant overhaul of the OS in terms of UI. I believe some good use could be made by having home screens scroll up/down as well as sideways (notifications by scrolling down, widgets by scrolling up).

Notification system update, multitasking UI update, iPod UI update, Calendar UI update....FREE MobileMe!

My phone is plenty fast enough, I don't need a quad core processor. What I want more than anything, are tweaks with some UI stuff to make some of these already easy features---EASIER!
 
I'd say dual core processor, bigger battery (atrix has 1900mah while iPhone has 1500mah I belive), 1080p video camera, revamped notifications, hspa+ (21mb), 64gb storage, a doc with HDMI out, improved antena, and 1gb ram. I think that about covers it. Oh, 720p FaceTime.

Sounds good to me. And as far as iOS, instead of only scrolling right for home screens, i'd like to be able to scroll up/down as well. So your Page 2 and 3 now could still be one swipe away from your original home page. :)
 
I'm not sure that the next iPhone NEEDS duo-core, but of course, if implemented well with iOS4, then it would be nice.

Expect a faster CPU (maybe not duo-core), more capacity, probably minor improvement on the camera, probably more RAM, definitely a tweak to the antennas, and possibly a slight bump on the Retina Display's color gamut (would be nice to have 97-100% NTSC).
 
What the iPhone needs is not related to hardware specs. For me it needs more user customisation ability. So I vote for a more relaxed operating system, and less restrictions on developers so that better Apps that offer true customisation options can be developed.

peace!
 
What the iPhone needs is not related to hardware specs. For me it needs more user customisation ability. So I vote for a more relaxed operating system, and less restrictions on developers so that better Apps that offer true customisation options can be developed.

peace!

I'm not sure that this is going to happen. The number of good Jailbreak themes available is pretty good already though. If Apple implements true widgets, then that would be a greater improvement to me.

However, having said that, I do love the ability to use ADW Launcher on my Droid and change its look drastically as my mood sees fit ;)
 
What the iPhone needs is not related to hardware specs. For me it needs more user customisation ability. So I vote for a more relaxed operating system, and less restrictions on developers so that better Apps that offer true customisation options can be developed.

peace!
It would basically just be catching up to the jailbreak dev community from 2008. It is sad that Apple's restrictions limits and slows down its overall potential.

I think Apple got blind-sided by Android runaway train during CES and I don't think this year's update will be anymore major than from last summer. Notice how the Verizon announcement instantly came right after those super new Android phones got announced. I see Apple just trying to expand their iPhone 4 marketshare with the Verizon announcement and then focus heavily on the iPad 2. The real iPhone and iOS update will be in 2012. It is like following your fav team. After winning a championship, you can't expect them to win it every single year. Or in TV shows, at some point (ala The Simpsons), it gets sickening after awhile and already jumping the shark. Apple didn't have enough time to reload and just rested on its laurels like anybody feeling complacent about success. Look at Nokia back in 2007.

This is Android's year. At some point, iPhone sales will reach a saturation point and everybody else would want to try something different. Not like Apple has really been relevant for more than 10 years. Not since the iPod have they been popular to the masses. Sony had a great 10+ year run with their PlayStation brand before everybody started bashing them in 2006.
 
We "settle" on last-generation processors ...
We buy into the marketing and design, not the hardware capabilities. Apple knows this and designs products accordingly.

That's patently false for the iPhones. For instance when the iPhone 3GS came out, its rivals were likes of the Palm Pre, Nokia N97, T-Mobile G1, etc. The iPhone had, by far, the fastest combination of CPU and GPU among the bunch. It wasn't even close. The iPhone 4 wasn't as cutting edge but it still placed near the top in its generation for its processor and most definitely did not use "last-generation processor."

It's so easy to generalize and get into that blanket thinking and say "oh Apple always overprices their products relative their specs" but if you look at their mobile devices, it's not true. Just look at the iPad vs the Galaxy Tab.
 
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It would basically just be catching up to the jailbreak dev community from 2008. It is sad that Apple's restrictions limits and slows down its overall potential.

I think Apple got blind-sided by Android runaway train during CES and I don't think this year's update will be anymore major than from last summer. Notice how the Verizon announcement instantly came right after those super new Android phones got announced. I see Apple just trying to expand their iPhone 4 marketshare with the Verizon announcement and then focus heavily on the iPad 2. The real iPhone and iOS update will be in 2012. It is like following your fav team. After winning a championship, you can't expect them to win it every single year. Or in TV shows, at some point (ala The Simpsons), it gets sickening after awhile and already jumping the shark. Apple didn't have enough time to reload and just rested on its laurels like anybody feeling complacent about success. Look at Nokia back in 2007.

This is Android's year. At some point, iPhone sales will reach a saturation point and everybody else would want to try something different. Not like Apple has really been relevant for more than 10 years. Not since the iPod have they been popular to the masses. Sony had a great 10+ year run with their PlayStation brand before everybody started bashing them in 2006.

I was thinking about the whole jailbreak thing and how people are always saying how you can't do this or that without jailbreaking, and how this or that suck on the iphone etc, etc. Well for most people that don't care, and just want their phones to work, the stock iPhone works great, for those of us who like to tinker and theme, well we can put whatever we want on the phone. My iPhone 4 has widgets, Android style notification system, and is customized throughout to my liking, so it's not so bad I guess. You can't download a program that will increase your Androids resolution or turn it's cheap plastic into steel..:p

And as far as Apple being blind sided by the announcements at CES this year, I couldn't disagree more, huge corporations like Apple and Google know far more about what eachother are doing than the general public knows. And it's almost comical watching the news and reading all the tech sites this week. Why? Well this is the first year I've paid any attention to CES, and what have I noticed? It seems as if Apple has gotten more press than Google or anybody else by them not being there, it's like every story written about CES starts off with something about Apple, the iPad, or the Verizon iPhone. Sure the geeks have memorized every detail of every Android phone announced, but you know what most people heard? Well they probably heard what I did on the local news here in so Cal last night. It went something like this: Bunch of new gizmos and gadgets, not really any focus on who makes different gizmos and gadgets, then they show people playing with different tablets as news guy says there's been a flood of iPad copycats announced, and then they finish it off showing someone playing with yup, you guessed it, an iPhone! So I thought the whole thing was pretty funny, Apple pretends CES doesn't exist, yet the spotlight is still on them (at least it seems that way). And now we have confirmation that the Verizon iPhone is being unveiled next week, and already everybody has forgotten about the Androids and Motorola "Xoom's".

Oh and it's not like everybody at Apple works on the same thing, one project at a time, last year we got an all new phone along with the release of the iPad, why would they not be able to work on a new phone because of an iPad re-fresh???

And there's always Steve Jobs compulsion to stay ahead of the competition, I remember many people predicting doom and gloom for the iPhone from this time last year until WWDC. It was all about the Evo, man there must have been a thousand posts a day about how the iPhone was dead, and that the Evo was the king and all that stuff. Apple was just gonna sit back and enjoy making more cash off all the "suckers" who would run out and buy their iPhone 3GS2 because it has a Apple logo on it, while Android would clean their clock. And then we got the iPhone 4, suddenly nobody wanted an Evo anymore.

Watch those predictions, same thing might happen again, and sure, Apple could always screw up and put out a dud, but remember, when they last made a minor upgrade back in 08 with the 3G, there wasn't really any competition either. Now there is.
 
That's patently false for the iPhones. For instance when the iPhone 3GS came out, its rivals were likes of the Palm Pre, Nokia N97, T-Mobile G1, etc. The iPhone had, by far, the fastest combination of CPU and GPU among the bunch. It wasn't even close. The iPhone 4 wasn't as cutting edge but it still placed near the top in its generation for its processor and most definitely did not use "last-generation processor."

It's so easy to generalize and get into that blanket thinking and say "oh Apple always overprices their products relative their specs" but if you look at their mobile devices, it's not true. Just look at the iPad vs the Galaxy Tab.

Exactly, and one year later the iPhone 4 got the A4 chip that many said it would never get either. There's a list about a mile long of those predictions that were wrong, it'll be interesting to see how many go down in flames come summer!
 
Im of the opinion we will see no more than a small upgrade this year.
Like we saw in the 3g to 3gs.

The year after that i think we will see a major step.

Hope im wrong.....Time will tell mind.....
 
Im of the opinion we will see no more than a small upgrade this year.
Like we saw in the 3g to 3gs.

The upgrade from the 3G to 3GS wasn't small at all internally. If Apple does a "small upgrade" for the iPhone 4 like they did for 3G, it means we'll get an iPhone 5 that looks the same as the iPhone 4 but move to a much faster CPU of a new generation with a market-leading 3D graphics go to with 1gigabyte of RAM and the support for 64G flash memory and 4G network. If they can come up with something to further improve the reception and introduce a new OS version, then that should be more than enough hardware upgrade. The question is whether they can do something to truly surprise us somewhere there.
 
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A reliable phone capable of making & holding a clear call.

Very basic, yet something Apple isn't about to do when they love playing victim & finger pointing. Blaming others is a childish way of life at Apple.

Interesting how prior to the iPhone, Apple was a great adult company with terrific computers.
 
A reliable phone capable of making & holding a clear call.

Very basic, yet something Apple isn't about to do when they love playing victim & finger pointing. Blaming others is a childish way of life at Apple.

Interesting how prior to the iPhone, Apple was a great adult company with terrific computers.

I don't think their computer line is lacking incredibly right now (at least not anymore than normal). My biggest fear is that Lion is gonna be a lame upgrade -- the things I've seen so far haven't been that exciting.
 
A reliable phone capable of making & holding a clear call.

Very basic, yet something Apple isn't about to do when they love playing victim & finger pointing. Blaming others is a childish way of life at Apple.

Interesting how prior to the iPhone, Apple was a great adult company with terrific computers.

I don't know what you are talking about.

The iPhone is a reliable phone capable of making and holding a crystal clear call where I'm at.

BTW, it has nothing to do with Apple, but rather AT&T...since AT&T is the network provider :)
 
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