gee that's swell...if we want to not use the iphone. but to use it, having an iphone costs much more. to be an iphone owner we're locked into whatever att & apple have worked out, which starts by getting boned for basic texts. there's no competition so get ready to take it...why does it have to be that way?? that's all anyone is saying...can we get over the bullying name calling, if we want that we can tune in to the prez.
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gee that's swell...if we want to not use the iphone. but to use it, having an iphone costs much more. to be an iphone owner we're locked into whatever att & apple have worked out, which starts by getting boned for basic texts. there's no competition so get ready to take it...why does it have to be that way?? that's all anyone is saying...can we get over the bullying name calling, if we want that we can tune in to the prez.
idk why people are complaining, especially the ones who feel like AT&T is a rip.
Ok you people, why don't you take this situation into another area of technology. GEE what about a computer! Let's say you buy a macbook pro...ok great!...well you need internet right...there is another thing you have to add on to pay more...and of course you need some software...which is more money...
Why is every single person complaining about the price. this is just like any ordinary product in the world, you are always going to have be purchasing something else to make the best use for it.
When you buy a coffee pot...you need filters and coffee beans
When you buy a washer and dryer - you need clothes, water and detergent
When you buy a computer - you usually need extra software and an internet connection
When you buy a car - you need to purchase gas to use it..
get over yourselves, all of you. This is way beyond the moaning and groaning for a 3G rate plan. This is the point where you want everything to be cheaper. This phone isn't for the average consumer, everyone assumes that...but it's not true. You must sacrifice to have the best, just like everything else in the world today...
This is how our economy and corporations work. Nothing is free, nothing comes close to a good deal if you think about it, because you are always going to be paying more at the end.
Microsoft users realize this: You go buy Vista..then you need Anti-Virus...then Office...and then games..
It never ends...
It will go on
and on
and on
and we will never get our way.
But it's fine, I know somethings cost extra, and I don't mind it. It's a great phone, and another worthy apple product. do you really think Apple will care if you don't buy it...they will have 77 other countries that will and counting...
Ok you people, why don't you take this situation into another area of technology. GEE what about a computer! Let's say you buy a macbook pro...ok great!...well you need internet right...there is another thing you have to add on to pay more...and of course you need some software...which is more money...
Why is every single person complaining about the price. this is just like any ordinary product in the world, you are always going to have be purchasing something else to make the best use for it.
When you buy a coffee pot...you need filters and coffee beans
When you buy a washer and dryer - you need clothes, water and detergent
When you buy a computer - you usually need extra software and an internet connection
When you buy a car - you need to purchase gas to use it..
get over yourselves, all of you. This is way beyond the moaning and groaning for a 3G rate plan. This is the point where you want everything to be cheaper. This phone isn't for the average consumer, everyone assumes that...but it's not true. You must sacrifice to have the best, just like everything else in the world today...
This is how our economy and corporations work. Nothing is free, nothing comes close to a good deal if you think about it, because you are always going to be paying more at the end.
Microsoft users realize this: You go buy Vista..then you need Anti-Virus...then Office...and then games..
It never ends...
It will go on
and on
and on
and we will never get our way.
But it's fine, I know somethings cost extra, and I don't mind it. It's a great phone, and another worthy apple product. do you really think Apple will care if you don't buy it...they will have 77 other countries that will and counting...
Complaining is stupid, but lying is much more stupid.
original iPhone = $599 + $20/mo iPhone data package * 24 mo = $1,079
lower-priced 8GB iPhone = $399 + $20/mo iPhone data package * 24 mo = $879
iPhone 3G = $199 + $30/mo iPhone 3G data package * 24 mo = $919
iPhone 3G + 200 Text = $199 + $35/m0 iPhone 3G Data & 200 SMS * 24 mo = $1039
In other words, if you buy the same plan (i.e. you get the 200 SMS), this phone costs almost as much as the original iPhone. If you don't have 3G in your area, you are paying $160 more for the new iPhone 3G than you did with the old one, and you really only get GPS and a plastic back to show for it.
Don't get me wrong, I am very impressed with the new iPhone, and I think it just became DRAMATICALLY more affordable internationally. But We just got lied to about the price of the iPhone here in the US. If those numbers are indeed true, the iPhone hasn't become more affordable at all, except by fools who think that the price is determined solely by sticker price.
Again, this is not a complaint about the iPhone 3G, it's a complaint about calling it cheaper than before. It's not, ESPECIALLY if you are not in a 3G area.
compromise AT&T?
More options, customizability would be an awesome compromise on AT&T's part since the major complaint is this $80 (after taxes) slap-in-the face plan that you either have to live with or go home. I like many others, am not interested, nor prepared to pay $30 on top of the voice plan fee for 24/7 internet access just so i can surf (the entire 15 minutes) i'm between wi-fi spots. My current phone plan is about to expire and i was really looking forward to just having this great device (internet ready, ipod etc). Best option for all (except maybe a slight change in the financial plans of AT&T as far as investment and return timing) would be for AT&T to offer the options of voice plan only $40, data plan only - $30, or both $70. Is there anything that can be done about this you think? complaints? calls? rioting in the streets?
Seriously though, this is not more affordable, not with the options we're being given. Have a heart AT&T, how about taking 1 for the consumers?
G-Goose
More options, customizability would be an awesome compromise on AT&T's part since the major complaint is this $80 (after taxes) slap-in-the face plan that you either have to live with or go home. I like many others, am not interested, nor prepared to pay $30 on top of the voice plan fee for 24/7 internet access just so i can surf (the entire 15 minutes) i'm between wi-fi spots. My current phone plan is about to expire and i was really looking forward to just having this great device (internet ready, ipod etc). Best option for all (except maybe a slight change in the financial plans of AT&T as far as investment and return timing) would be for AT&T to offer the options of voice plan only $40, data plan only - $30, or both $70. Is there anything that can be done about this you think? complaints? calls? rioting in the streets?
Seriously though, this is not more affordable, not with the options we're being given. Have a heart AT&T, how about taking 1 for the consumers?
G-Goose
read it again.......
by swapping i mean the SIM card from a 1gen iphone to the 3Giphone
i would now, but in a few months im sure i can buy one used or refurb like I said in my original post.
Would I then be able to swap the sim card and pay the same monthly fee?
No, because the standard rate plan for 3G is 30 dollars...and you have to activate the phone at AT&T...so of course they wouldn't allow you to keep your old data plan, when the policy is you have to have a 3G data plan for 30 dollars.
Despite the seemingly small amount of area covered, that also represents a large proportion of our population believe it or not. The large blanks are mostly rural areas without very large populations at all.
Sebastian
..I think I'm more upset with the business customer price on data. My dad and I both have iphones and we'll both have 3G iphones. So your telling me we now have to pay an extra (40x2) $80+ a month just for internet with no text messages.. or that will be another (10x2) $20 for the both of us.. (5x2) $10 at the cheapest. wow.
..maybe I should have kept my old iphone.. 20 for half the internet speed would have been fine.
..maybe I should have kept my old iphone.. 20 for half the internet speed would have been fine.
Well! I planned on getting an iPhone in early Feb and looked up HSDPA reception in my area (for kicks since it was only EDGE back then). My whole town has recently been blanketed by it! Now I really want an iPhone. The speed of HSDPA alone is only 200kbps less than my home broadband connection.
I'm paying $15/mo for MediaNET Unlimited which is the internet service regardless it's via 3G, 2.5G or 2G speed.
Now can anyone here tell me how the F they can tell me to move to a $30 service if I get the new iPhone (I won't as it's still a handicapped fashion stuff, not a serious mobile piece) to use exactly the same thing, same setup, same logins???
They already have some ripoff-styled "PDA" and "Smartphone" etc BS packages - they are exactly the same as mine. When I use my TyTn I egt well over 1Mbit, if I switch to my W960 I go lower (it's UMTS only).
SO other than taking advantage of the average iPhone user (=utterly clueless Mact**ds
) I don't really see how this news would change anything...
Now can anyone here tell me how the F they can tell me to move to a $30 service if I get the new iPhone (I won't as it's still a handicapped fashion stuff, not a serious mobile piece) to use exactly the same thing, same setup, same logins???
They already have some ripoff-styled "PDA" and "Smartphone" etc BS packages - they are exactly the same as mine. When I use my TyTn I egt well over 1Mbit, if I switch to my W960 I go lower (it's UMTS only).
SO other than taking advantage of the average iPhone user (=utterly clueless Mact**ds
) I don't really see how this news would change anything...
What kind of slow@ssed hme connection you have?
My TyTn could go up to 3.6Mb but last time I tested - few months ago - current AT&T HSDPA was still 1-1.5Mbit/s...
This is nonsense and not even true. The standard unlimited data service fee is $15/mo - I know, I pay this every month. (Well, $20 with 200 SMS for $5.)
So explain to me...how this is nonsense? because the standard 3G for the iPhone will be 30..and the standard for the iPhone is 20...so how is this nonsense?
Agreed, i dont even live in a 3g covered area but at the same time I understand why the data plan will go up. But if you don't want/need 3g just to stick to your old iPhone.
3g is faster, therefore more expensive...It makes perfect sense.
Ps. By the end of the year ATT will have a much broader 3g coverage, just wait you might get lucky!
Here we go again...
You really didn't absorb what I wrote, did you? I'll repeat it again in capital letters so you get it this time. YOU'RE BASICALLY PAYING THE SAME THING OVER 2 YEARS FOR THE IPHONE 3G + NEW DATA PLAN AS YOU WOULD WITH THE FIRST IPHONE AND THE OLD PLAN!!!!!
$399 iPhone + ($20 x 24 months = $480) = $880
$199 iPhone 3G + ($30 x 24 months = $720) = $919
If you can afford an iPhone than I think you can afford the extra $39 over the course of two years. That's not even a full tank of gas. Cut down on Starbucks or something.
Hopefully AT&T will do what they claim and improve and expand their 3G service. It wasn't the point of my post. At least people can afford the iPhone up front and eventually pay the difference over the 2 years. Think of the extra money as interest accrued, whatever it takes for you to "get it".
If you still don't get it, by all means don't get the new iPhone and waste space in the line in front of an Apple store.
You really didn't absorb what I wrote, did you? I'll repeat it again in capital letters so you get it this time. YOU'RE BASICALLY PAYING THE SAME THING OVER 2 YEARS FOR THE IPHONE 3G + NEW DATA PLAN AS YOU WOULD WITH THE FIRST IPHONE AND THE OLD PLAN!!!!!
$399 iPhone + ($20 x 24 months = $480) = $880
$199 iPhone 3G + ($30 x 24 months = $720) = $919
If you can afford an iPhone than I think you can afford the extra $39 over the course of two years. That's not even a full tank of gas. Cut down on Starbucks or something.
Hopefully AT&T will do what they claim and improve and expand their 3G service. It wasn't the point of my post. At least people can afford the iPhone up front and eventually pay the difference over the 2 years. Think of the extra money as interest accrued, whatever it takes for you to "get it".
If you still don't get it, by all means don't get the new iPhone and waste space in the line in front of an Apple store.
The standard WAP plan with 200 SMS is $20.
You want the real internet on your iphone, then a WAP plan isn't suitable.
Cancel 3G plan, just have voice?
I dont really even need data, can i just get a voice plan and no data? There was the semi-secret option to cancel the data plan with the first iPhone.
I dont really even need data, can i just get a voice plan and no data? There was the semi-secret option to cancel the data plan with the first iPhone.