AT&T 3G Availability Map, 3G Data Plan Only Option

[iLike]

Maybe it is just me, but since $30 is the standard rate for (EDGE) Blackberries and WM6 devices, why should the new iPhone be any different? iPhone users will likely use more data than the previously mentioned PDA types, and supports the full browser (not a WAP browser like the vanilla phones). If it is the same cost structure, why should the iPhone receive any different pricing?

Same with enterprise data...$45 is the standard rate...

Maybe it is just me, but I just spent 25 dollars to take my wife to a 2 hour movie (which blew). One dollar a day gets me unlimited 24/7 Internet browsing with broadband speed in the most populated areas in the country...I'll bite.

Too bad we can't just pirate and download 3G service amirite? I'm no corporate lacky, but I firmly believe that the consumers are just as unfair to businesses as they claim the businesses are to them. AT&T is subsidizing the phone, why should they be expected to discount the data as well...because the people buying it are apple lackeys?

Because people think they deserve it all for free.
Same as people crying about gas prices in US... You wanted to have 12MPG cars? Well here you go... now you'll pay for it It's called the price of luxury.

In my opinion the new iPhone pricing is fair and I know I'm getting the 3G the day that is out.

 

[richard4339]

They just turned on 3G in my area today. It's not on the map.

Where do you live, out of curiosity? If you say Chattanooga, TN, you'll make me a happy man =)

I've heard that AT&T is upgrading 60 cities right now, but which cities is yet to be seen. And I've seen AT&T trucks around our area at the cell towers, so I'm hoping we're getting it and that I can then be happy with my decision to switch to AT&T in July...

 

[kwong2006]

So, 70 to 80 bucks a month? I love the iPhone, but I am not crazy enough to shell out that much money monthly for it.

 

[kamm]

The standard WAP plan with 200 SMS is $20.

You want the real internet on your iphone, then a WAP plan isn't suitable.

This is NOT WAP.

Why on Earth all of you keep arguing about something you obviously have ZERO clue?

Do you even know WTF is WAP? I doubt it.

Jesus... "real internet"... talk about being clueless. My TyTn is a Category 6 HSDPA phone, it only needs the network behind it - so far I usually get 1-1.5Mb/s.


Stop talking BS, folks, please. AS I said this is utter nonsense from AT&T, a money grab from iPhone users, nothing else.

In other words there's no "real internet".

 

[kamm]

So explain to me...how this is nonsense? because the standard 3G for the iPhone will be 30..and the standard for the iPhone is 20...so how is this nonsense?

Because the standard standalone 3G fee is $15/mo.

 

[kamm]

Last time I crunched the numbers AT&T's 3G coverage covers more people than the population of any country in Europe (I'm not including Russia). It's basically about 85 million people with their latest expansion and the biggest country in Europe is Germany (according to Wiki) at 83 million. So, no, it's not nearly as bad as many make it out to be. Of course % wise we're still only talking about 1/4th of the population being in a 3G area (where they live). I'd bet it's quite a bit more when talking about where people work - closer to 1/3.

I do feel bad for all those people in the northern plain states with absolutely no 3G coverage at all.

Well, you seem to forget HSDPA is available in most of Europe's half billion pepople for literally years now, they are in the process of upgrading to 7.2MB/s/HSUPA so while I agree AT&T isn't that bad at all it's the question of compared to whom...?

 

[kamm]

Portugal's Vodafone 3G and 3G HSPA up to 3.6 Mbits (7.2 Mbits only in large cities) map.

It's the same for most of Europe. I always missed this here...

 

[UWSpindoctor]

Because the standard standalone 3G fee is $15/mo.

Technically speaking, ATT does not offer the $15 a month data plan to people with a Smartphone/PDA Phone. Obviously from your case it is possible to get it but it's not a standard offer on Smartphones.

 

[DarkFlame]

idk why people are complaining, especially the ones who feel like AT&T is a rip.

Ok you people, why don't you take this situation into another area of technology. GEE what about a computer! Let's say you buy a macbook pro...ok great!...well you need internet right...there is another thing you have to add on to pay more...and of course you need some software...which is more money...

Why is every single person complaining about the price. this is just like any ordinary product in the world, you are always going to have be purchasing something else to make the best use for it.

When you buy a coffee pot...you need filters and coffee beans

When you buy a washer and dryer - you need clothes, water and detergent

When you buy a computer - you usually need extra software and an internet connection

When you buy a car - you need to purchase gas to use it..

get over yourselves, all of you. This is way beyond the moaning and groaning for a 3G rate plan. This is the point where you want everything to be cheaper. This phone isn't for the average consumer, everyone assumes that...but it's not true. You must sacrifice to have the best, just like everything else in the world today...

This is how our economy and corporations work. Nothing is free, nothing comes close to a good deal if you think about it, because you are always going to be paying more at the end.

Microsoft users realize this: You go buy Vista..then you need Anti-Virus...then Office...and then games..

It never ends...

It will go on

and on

and on

and we will never get our way.

But it's fine, I know somethings cost extra, and I don't mind it. It's a great phone, and another worthy apple product. do you really think Apple will care if you don't buy it...they will have 77 other countries that will and counting...

In regards to required data plans for all phones, not just the iphone:

I understand that 30 dollars a month is fine for a data plan. And I understand that is where they make the money lost from the subsidy... BUT WHY CANT THEY OFFER AN UNSUBSIDIZED PHONE? Why? greed. Let the customer have a choice! AT&T should be there to provide me the services I desire..not push unneccessary ones on to me. I want a voice plan for a phone I am buying on my own because I ONLY WANT TO USE IT TO MAKE AND RECIEVE VOICE PHONE CALLS. There is no reason to not let me do that other than greed.

In no other circumstance in life is this similar. This is like a car salesman saying he wont sell me a car unless I buy snow tires from him to put on it at an extra price. Or me going to buy gun, but he wont sell it unless I buy a super cool carrying case for it.

It is not something the phone NEEDS for it to do its basic function, make a ****ing phone call.

Nobody forces you to get the internet when you get a computer, its only if you want the service. You should be able to buy something and use it for its basic function if you want.

It shouldn´t make a damn difference. Because the phone has extra capabilities, i shouldnt be forced to pay to use them if I dont want to use them. All I want to do is pay at&t for the voice and enjoy the other free capabilities the phone has that I paid for completely unsubsidized.

This is no different if AT&T was like: The iphone now has gps, I dont care if you dont want to use the gps feature, you are forced to pay 100 dollars a year for maps that are downloaded onto the phone. NO DIFFERENT.

Nice vent, now someone get me an email to an at&t representative so this actually might have a purpose.

 

[pseudonymph]

I have 3g coverage in my area...but there's a hole in its coverage right over my house and the surrounding 2 blocks. Wifi still works though.

For those of you who live in BFE montana or whatever, stick to the gen 1 iphone. You're not getting anything from the 3g service and the 2.0 software will work just fine on old phones. Save your $10/month

 

[Tosser]

I have 3g coverage in my area...but there's a hole in its coverage right over my house and the surrounding 2 blocks. Wifi still works though.

What do you mean "wifi" works? Of course it does. Do you mean EDGE?

I wonder, because "wi-fi" is what we have in our laptops, airport expresses and so on and it has nothing to do with AT&T, 3G, Edge or anything else that has to do with the phone service provider.

 

[samab]

This is NOT WAP.

Why on Earth all of you keep arguing about something you obviously have ZERO clue?

Do you even know WTF is WAP? I doubt it.

Jesus... "real internet"... talk about being clueless. My TyTn is a Category 6 HSDPA phone, it only needs the network behind it - so far I usually get 1-1.5Mb/s.


Stop talking BS, folks, please. AS I said this is utter nonsense from AT&T, a money grab from iPhone users, nothing else.

In other words there's no "real internet".

The $15 "MEdia net unlimited" plan --- is a WAP plan. Read the terms of services. The traffic goes through AT&T's WAP server.

Whether you can bypass their WAP server --- that's a techical issue.

The first gen AT&T iphone contract --- with unlimited "mobile internet" --- is a WAP plan. "Mobile internet" is WAP.

 

[Shasterball]

All I know is, 3G better be AMAZING.... None of this, "oh, there's a weak 3G signal in this building in NYC so it's the same speed as EDGE". That would make hulk angry....

 

[Tosser]

All I know is, 3G better be AMAZING.... None of this, "oh, there's a weak 3G signal in this building in NYC so it's the same speed as EDGE". That would make hulk angry....

Prepare to be disappointed (or angry, if you think you're hulk). "Spotty service" is indeed "spotty".

 

[MacToddB]

First of all, complaining, whether deserved or not, over the price drop shortly after the original iPhone was introduced, caused Apple to take notice and issue credits. (I did NOT complain because the extra time I had by being an early adopter allowed my firm to release an iPhone web app and get some PR. But I gladly accepted my credit.)

AT&T has not formally defined the iPhone 3G rate plan, and it's looking like 200 SMS text messages will be included after all. I believe the pushback has made them take notice and that's a good thing. I don't know if I'll upgrade, but this is a positive development. I probably get 20 texts a month so I wouldn't want to pay $5 but I wouldn't like unpredictable billing either.

But I have a question re 3G that might help put me and others over the top.

Previously (currently), the iTunes store was/is WiFi based, presumably because of the bandwidth required. Will this now be 3G-based? Same with the App Store? Will apps, music, and movies be downloadable/installable via 3G... but not Edge? This would be a compelling factor. Thanks!

 

[BiikeMike]

His Steveness said that apps under 10 megs are available over 3G. over 10 megs are available over WiFi only.

 

[AHDuke99]

Where do you live, out of curiosity? If you say Chattanooga, TN, you'll make me a happy man =)

I've heard that AT&T is upgrading 60 cities right now, but which cities is yet to be seen. And I've seen AT&T trucks around our area at the cell towers, so I'm hoping we're getting it and that I can then be happy with my decision to switch to AT&T in July...

Close, but I'm in Charleston, SC. I tested it with my old RAZR v3xx

 

[kamm]

The $15 "MEdia net unlimited" plan --- is a WAP plan. Read the terms of services. The traffic goes through AT&T's WAP server.

Whether you can bypass their WAP server --- that's a techical issue.

The first gen AT&T iphone contract --- with unlimited "mobile internet" --- is a WAP plan. "Mobile internet" is WAP.

Again, it's NOT WAP.

And again: "mobile internet" is NOT WAP.

Please, people: if you obviously lack the understanding of the technical background then please, STOP ARGUING about it.

Repeat after me: it's NOT WAP.

WAP != HSDPA.

Stop spreading false information, please. Exactly people like you - the "highly opiniated but barely educated"-type - spread most of the false information on the web.

PS: AT&T can name it whatever they want but they have only two levels of internet service: the 2/2.5G GPRS/EDGE and the 3G HSDPA/UMTS (HSDPA is a sub-subset of UMTS.) WAP was an early 2G (GSM) protocol, enough from this circus (even if they still provide some WAP-based crap for some dinosaur-old phone though I doubt it as my last WAP phone was the MOtorola V60 IIRC...)

 

[kamm]

Prepare to be disappointed (or angry, if you think you're hulk). "Spotty service" is indeed "spotty".

Dunno but more than a years ago, when AT&T already had HSDPA in NYC and I just got my TyTn and the first mobile Skype was released, I was able to call my Mom in Europe from a yellow cab around Brooklyn Bridge and talked to her until we reached the 5x St so I woould say that outside coverage is spotless in Manhattan and its closest Bklyn neighborhoods (Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Carroll Garden, Williamsburg, Greenpoint etc).

 

[Tosser]

Dunno but more than a years ago, when AT&T already had HSDPA in NYC and I just got my TyTn and the first mobile Skype was released, I was able to call my Mom in Europe from a yellow cab around Brooklyn Bridge and talked to her until we reached the 5x St so I woould say that outside coverage is spotless in Manhattan and its closest Bklyn neighborhoods (Brooklyn Heights, Park Slope, Carroll Garden, Williamsburg, Greenpoint etc).

'Tis but a feeling, but I'd venture a guess and say Manhattan is propably the best covered place in the US, and it's propably as good as anywhere in Europe.

 

[MacToddB]

His Steveness said that apps under 10 megs are available over 3G. over 10 megs are available over WiFi only.

But what about Edge? I doubt he would highlight the ability, but I'm wondering if AppStore will work (under 10MB) via Edge? Will iTunes work on 3G?

If AppStore and iTunes store work on 3G (and WiFi) but NOT Edge, then that will be a compelling reason to adopt 3G. If not, I'll stick w/ Edge and WiFi.

Another reason to wait until the dust settles.

 

[DiamondMac]

At the moment, I am about to leave New Orleans for either Chicago or Washington D.C. (will find out soon) so whatever place I move to seems to be good-to-go in the 3G world

I do feel bad for those not found in the 3G areas.

But, I will say this....I am very happy with my original iPhone AND a non-3G iPhone is still light years better than any previous iPhone that I had ESPECIALLY if WiFi can be found

So, the world will not end for them though I do agree it is unfair for them to pay a 3G-load with no 3G

 

[pik.]

so from what I ve read till now no PAYG deal for the iphone in US right?

 

[Tosser]

so from what I ve read till now no PAYG deal fro the iphone in US right?

Correct.

Btw, in danish, your nick is the short form of "Richard" or another name for "rooster". For real

 

[pik.]

thaks for the info!!!!!