Opinion from an outsider: I only own one Apple product, an Ipad, but I was so impressed I was going to get the 4G phone from AT&T, even though I am a Verizon customer. I know the reports regarding AT&T service, but the phone looks so good I was going to suck it up.....but, to me, now it is so plain to see. Jobs not commenting regarding the Iphone with other carriers and AT&T changing their data plans, thus undercutting the sales of the 3G Ipad. Verizon is going to get the phone, no doubt in my mind, and I am going to wait. I think that Jobs just got fed up with the management of AT&T and how they are screwing customers. The solution for not enough capacity is to ADD CAPACITY, not tell customers to cut their usage. AT&T will get what they deserve.
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AT&T and Apple: The Marriage is Over
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ATT is spending the most money on spectrum purchases and tower construction than any other American carrier.
So, saving 98% of their customers $$ is screwing them? If people are concerned with their data usage and are current customers they have until Monday to move to an unlimited plan. They are not FORCING you to move to a new plan
Ok, wait for the phone to get on the VZ network.
A few abusers forced this on AT&T along with all the complaints. Abusers will stay with the unlimited plan. Any carrier will have their network overloaded with the iPhone. Expect another surge of iPhone customers this summer. Ending exclusive arrangement with AT&T should help spread the load.
Is Verizon that much better than AT&T? I have not heard anyone talk about that. Would waiting to go to Verizon be a good move? Or just the same stuff on a different day?
NO!!! Period. All of the carriers suck in their own way. AT&T and for that matter Sprint doesn't have the ability to provide me with native coverage where I live. T-Mobile provided coverage, but also terrible problems with dropped calls in perfect signal areas. Verizon is constantly screwing up my bill and I'm sure probably not providing good coverage for others depending on where you live. U.S. Cellular has probably the best coverage area, but the phones are crap and there's something seriously wrong with their SMS services.
The point? You CAN'T win this battle. Someone needs to come and give this industry a good flogging. There are a number of practices that are just plain anti-consumer and anti-competitive. So, until the day when someone forces an overhaul, do your research on carriers in your area and make sure to pick the least of the evils.
People have been waiting "years" for the iPhone to come over to verizon.
My question is, you seem to be complaining about AT&T's service/coverage with no first hand experience. That seems a little unfair and short sited.
Look at the coverage map for AT&T and see if it suits your needs. For me, I've had very good service with AT&T. In fact I see no difference between AT&T and Verizon, as before I got my iPhone I was on verizon.
My point is, you are castigating AT&T without knowing whether they can suit your needs.
My question is, you seem to be complaining about AT&T's service/coverage with no first hand experience. That seems a little unfair and short sited.
Look at the coverage map for AT&T and see if it suits your needs. For me, I've had very good service with AT&T. In fact I see no difference between AT&T and Verizon, as before I got my iPhone I was on verizon.
My point is, you are castigating AT&T without knowing whether they can suit your needs.
Verizon has already said they are going to move to this model. And lowering the price for data saves customers money, it doesn't decrease their usage. Wait for the iPhone on Verizon, but you'll probably be waiting a long time and it might not be any better. The network will probably be worse.
Every carrier will be moving closer to a pay as you model for data bandwidth, not just wireless carriers, but also broadband carriers.
The days of unlimited bandwidth will be drawing to a close in the course of time.
The OPs first sentence sums it up: he doesnt have an iPhone and hes not an AT&T customer, so he cant comment on either.
then you are gonna wait a very long time
http://www.beet.tv/2010/06/verizon-as-no-plans-for-ipod-support-in-the-immediate-future.html
Never been on AT&T? Talking bad about them with no experience other than 'opinions'?
Your argument is invalid.
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3 years too late if you ask me. Look at their profits vs their investment in the network the first 3 years of the iPhone.
Badandy said:
3 years too late if you ask me. Look at their profits vs their investment in the network the first 3 years of the iPhone.
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Who the heck is US Cellular? And if I don't know who they are, what on earth makes you think they have superior coverage?
I'm guessing they are some regional carrier. Either way, not one of the big 4 (yeah, I'm being nice to T-Mob) and therefore by default do not have superior coverage....unless your talking only about your hometown.
slider5634 said:
Who the heck is US Cellular? And if I don't know who they are, what on earth makes you think they have superior coverage?
I'm guessing they are some regional carrier. Either way, not one of the big 4 (yeah, I'm being nice to T-Mob) and therefore by default do not have superior coverage....unless your talking only about your hometown.
The only reports you ever hear about AT&T's service is from people with bad service in specific areas. The media is good at spreading negative publicity with that sort of material. They never mention that many areas have excellent service. Find out about the QoS in your area before assuming that AT&T is just terrible everywhere.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/1895...rlds_second_3g_wireless_performance_test.html
AT&T had a 72% increase in speed since last year. Verizon had a 8% drecrease, mainly because of the Droid launch. Verizon isn't prepared for a mass increase in volume from the iPhone and you'll see a big hit to their network. It is going to be real funny if people leave AT&T after they have gotten their act together and jump to Verizon to spend the next couple of years with a crippled network until Verizon can get its network up to speed.
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Since when does "immediate future" = "Very long time"? Most people will deem that to mean a few months to a year at most. Could be longer, sure. But stop exagerating since you don't know.
RonHC said:
Since when does "immediate future" = "Very long time"? Most people will deem that to mean a few months to a year at most. Could be longer, sure. But stop exagerating since you don't know.
I Realize that people want the iPhone on verizon but that doesn't give us a license to throw common sense and logic out with the baby and the bathwater.
In theory you could sit here and say that "Immediate Future" means no later than when the wolf howls on flag day at 5PM.
But that would be stupid. Verizon is not getting the iphone anytime this year. That's what that pretty much means. Now if you want wait on it like a drug addict waiting on his dealer then feel free to. But it's not logical to do so without proof.
Trust but Verify
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You need to put that into perspective, it's not hard to come up big when your in the gutter.
Buy like I said, they waited too long. Why didn't they start that investment earlier?
And I guarantee Verizon will handle it just fine. They've handled the big data users for much longer than AT&T has.
lasuther said:
You need to put that into perspective, it's not hard to come up big when your in the gutter.
Buy like I said, they waited too long. Why didn't they start that investment earlier?
And I guarantee Verizon will handle it just fine. They've handled the big data users for much longer than AT&T has.
Hmmm.... Interesting. I had assumed they were a national carrier because of the name. They've been around as long as I can remember. If the coverage area doesn't belong to them, I wonder who's towers they're using. Here's a link to their coverage map if you're interested.
http://www.uscellular.com/uscellular/common/common.jsp?path=/coverage-map/voice-and-data-maps.html
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I'll agree it's most likely not this year; been saying that all along. But not this year and not immediate future do not equal a "very long time" to me.
JediZenMaster said:
I'll agree it's most likely not this year; been saying that all along. But not this year and not immediate future do not equal a "very long time" to me.
ATT is spending the most money on spectrum
purchases and tower construction than any
other American carrier.
I work on cell towers for a contractor and sll i see is att takeing there equipment off towers. So they may be spending the most but most of it is to take down there sites.
purchases and tower construction than any
other American carrier.
I work on cell towers for a contractor and sll i see is att takeing there equipment off towers. So they may be spending the most but most of it is to take down there sites.