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AT&T and Verizon Drop Lawsuits Over Ad Campaigns
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Total fanboy statement unless you care about the quality scale of variations of fart apps.
Face it, AidenShaw called you the carpets on this.
The iPhone 3G S uses HSDPA, which seems to be much faster than the latest version of EVDO.
HSPA+ (aka Evolved HSPA) seems be much faster than even HSDPA, which is being rolled out world wide right now by GSM carriers.
Of course, all of this will mean less when all carriers go to LTE.
what the hell are you talking about. Since the orginal iPhone was released there has been very little that has been added to the iPhone minus things it should of had on day 1.
Voice control (Should of been day 1)
3G - Should of been day 1.
MMS - Should of been day 1.
Upping processor, ram, and storage are minor and not a real feature.
The only thing I can think of is the App store and even in that department apple has not really added much since day one. The ratio to crap to good apps is only getting worse by the 2nd.
1) "should have"
2) The fact that all those things should've been there on day 1 doesn't mean they didn't represent major new features.
but that is the point.
Since the iPhone all the so called "updates" are either minor (spec upgrade) or should of had day 1 updates. Since then the iPhone has add nothing new to the playing field. it was more pointed out the quote agrument the LTD put up saying when the next iPhone comes out everyone goes back to the drawing board. Fact of the matter is apple has add nothing really new but day 1 things.
Again, the fact that these were "day 1 things" doesn't change the fact that the iphone today is a very different beast than was the original 2G iphone upon release, and that, even today, there still isn't an "iphone killer." The phone has changed enough to keep ahead of the competition, even if the changes SHOULD have been there from the start.
So what you're saying is that the whole "3G Network" thing that is the basis of Verizon's ads is completely wasted on at least 98% of the people. Ask anyone on the street what 3G really means--not one correct answer in 1000, I'd bet. Therefore ATT's response ads are good marketing because they show a wider network (no matter 2G or 3G).
As far as your 3G speeds, so what? It's not the same everywhere. And have you actually done an objective side-by-side comparison with your friend's iPhones and a stopwatch? I'm sure those half-seconds either way are going to really add up (yawn).
Which is why most of them assume that AT&T phones just don't work in the blank parts of the map, which is why the ads are so effective.
And yet the competition still can't keep up, two years later, with the "stagnant" iPhone.
So what does that say about all these also-rans? Apple can, by your assertion, virtually cease development, and these fools still can't get their act together.
Even when Apple sits on their asses they're ahead. Apple has the "magic formula" of OS + hardware + App Store nailed. Even the also rans' best to date, the Droid, is no iPhone. EVERYTHING that is released is compared to the iPhone. That alone is your first clue that Apple's got the inside track when it comes to smartphones.
iPhone fanboyism is completely normal, because it's more than justfied. Of course the iPhone's got all the fans, and why shouldn't it? And accusing iPhone fans of fanboyism on an Apple fan site (as if it were some sort of anomaly) is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500.
Did I say iPhone killer no.
But compared the 3GS to the 1G iPhone difference
Spec upgrade (minor and nothing new)
Added MMS -- about damn time but should of been on the 1G iphone on day 1.
Add Voice control. --- Again about damn time nothing new there. Lag compared to other phones.
3G--- again nothing new. 1G iPhone should of been 3G on day one. so yet another Lag update.
I was not comparing "iPhone killers" but the iPhone to itself. The iPhone has brought nothing new to the table. All the updates to the iPhone have been minor or should of had them on day 1.
But here is what you are missing. Apple got a jump but just look at what has happen since the iPhone came out. Every new phone comes closer to taking some market share away and gets the closer to a good going. Apple has failed to move the goal post to beat and it does not seem likely that they will.
The driod is fairly popular and going pretty well. Droid really popular since it does not have the apple fanboys following it who would by "iCrap" like many apple fanboys would from apple.
And yet you and a lot of others here constantly talk about specs on the computer side, when in most cases they are either irrelevant to, or completely dependent on other components, processes, and software, regarding the actual speed at which a computer performs tasks. It's ALL theoretical.
Not what Apple would have done/
When the iPod came out I thought this needed to be changed to iPod Rumors. Now with the iPhone for the past couple of years this site needs to be changed to iPhone Rumors.
Actually this AT&T - Verizon thing appears to more like a comedy club act than real life. But then a lawyer only means what they say when the judge agrees & it will hurt you. AT&T must not have such a large legal department as Apple does as they dropped the case before it went before the judge. Apple would have staid in it longer to keep their legal department extra busy. It is good to see that AT&T finally listened to the judge & also listened to Verizon's ad close enough to realize that it would lose its lawsuit big time.
When the iPod came out I thought this needed to be changed to iPod Rumors. Now with the iPhone for the past couple of years this site needs to be changed to iPhone Rumors.
Actually this AT&T - Verizon thing appears to more like a comedy club act than real life. But then a lawyer only means what they say when the judge agrees & it will hurt you. AT&T must not have such a large legal department as Apple does as they dropped the case before it went before the judge. Apple would have staid in it longer to keep their legal department extra busy. It is good to see that AT&T finally listened to the judge & also listened to Verizon's ad close enough to realize that it would lose its lawsuit big time.
I do not suspect they will do any real changes to the iPhone for a while. What ever they come up with in this summer I suspect will be minor updates being mostly hardware updates in size.
Short of releasing a new phone like a iPhone nano it will be minor updates. The biggest thing I could see them doing is stepping away from ATT and releasing the iPhone on Verizon.
I wonder if this has anything to do with AT&T being rated worst wireless carrier and Verizon being rated the best.........
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/60353
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/60353
I wonder if this has anything to do with AT&T being rated worst wireless carrier and Verizon being rated the best.........
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/patterson/60353
only people who hate att do those things its a fact
also the next iphone will most likely have a major upgrade due to them working on it since jan this year compared to the others being nov.
also i feel version was starting to loose it due to them using the same ad and just rewrapping it. and att was using different ads. also apple helped the attack. so i think version and att just agreed to give it up.
i feel that the iphone will not be on version due to att already having the phone, people who want the iphone already switched and are in contracts. version is only better in "maps" nothing else not to mention a lot of these "maps" have service where you do not need it. also att having so much money from the iphone and this attack from version will most likely upgrade their network to be bigger. and version plans just wouldnt work with the phone.
att is the best choice in my opinion, they shouldnt upgrade their networks till 4g comes out so they can roll out that with 3g on the same tower cheaper and quicker. till then suck it up
Here's a suggestion for MacRumors: ban anyone who uses the term "fanboy".
I see way too many "newbies" here that use the term -- and when you look at their posts you realize 100% of them are negative.
Worse, even longer time users here are starting to be completely negative and describe anyone who has anything to say in defense of Apple or one of their products as a "fanboy". It's a substitute for a reasoned argument.
Macrumors is where I go for information, tips, and the occasional rumors. It is not where I go to work out the dramas of my life. Aren't there sites these people can go to get help?
I see way too many "newbies" here that use the term -- and when you look at their posts you realize 100% of them are negative.
Worse, even longer time users here are starting to be completely negative and describe anyone who has anything to say in defense of Apple or one of their products as a "fanboy". It's a substitute for a reasoned argument.
Macrumors is where I go for information, tips, and the occasional rumors. It is not where I go to work out the dramas of my life. Aren't there sites these people can go to get help?
That goes to ways. You say anything remotely negive about apple around here you get label either an Apple Hater, or Troll. Take your pick.
We have some true apple fanboys around here and some of them are really bad.
I agree with this. I have been on this site for a long time and I do like Apple products, but I understand there are other great products out there as well. Apple is not perfect and neither is any other company. I enjoy using my iMac and iPods, but I also enjoy using my Motorola Droid. When a company puts out a good product whether it be Mac OSX, iPod, Droid or even Windows 7 I will take a look at it and judge it on it's merits not on it's brand.
I think the biggest issue that people have is with the blind fanboys that put brand before anything else. No matter if the product is good or bad if it has an Apple logo it must be amazing. Apple has great products like the Mac, iPhone, iPod, but it also has also made it's share of mistakes over the years. One could also argue there is an "Apple tax" that one must pay when they choose an Apple product even though on the inside it is no different from the competition.
I like Apple, but I am not a blind follower that bases most of my buying decision on brand alone. I think the people who discredit other products based on brand alone should be labeled a fanboy. That is just my observation and opinion.