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It's not shady...it's how it works. You get ONE MONTH of unused PAID DATA rolled over. TMobile is the same way...PAID DATA ONLY is rolled over. Your bonus rolled over data is good that month only. Use it or lose it, basically. It's pretty clear that nothing rolls over to the 3rd month.
T-mobile rolls over data, and it accumulate for a year. A rolling year. Once you hit 1 year, the oldest data is removed, but the rest remains. Its much more than just a month.
 
Thanks T-Mo

Interesting how many comments ding ATT for their answer to T-Mo's Stash.

My take is, if you regularly need more than your monthly allotment, buy a higher tier plan. If you occasionally go over on a few months of the year and are protected from the uncompetitive change for the additional GB, this plan solves your issue.

We would probably see huge increases in overage charges if a full year of rollover was the plan. So, this approach seems on balance to be a pretty useful approach for most consumers. I say good job ATT!
 
I wish some people knew exactly how incorrect and misinformed you actually are. you just start bitching and complaining about something you know nothing about!! lmao. AT&T is enhancing your service for free and some of you are whining about it??? Jesus ****ing Christ. shut up and be happy or go to t mobile. NO ONE CARES

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t mobile is not competition to at&t. T-Mobiles network is literal **** lol

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maybe you should have just kept paying a ridiculous rate for the unlimited plan.

AT&T literally just copied (in a half-assed way) T-Mobile's most recent promotion. Do you even know what competition means? That type of reaction is that of two direct competitors.
 
Here here, I'll second that. How is your coverage BTW? I've been thinking of switching, but I'm not sure because of the coverage thing... and I know they have the test drive thing but... Idk, haven't gotten to it lol

I have used extensively in all areas in Southern California and New York City suburbs/city. Speedwise, T-Mobile is faster than Verizon. If I go upstate in NY, I go to EDGE (this will be fixed very soon). Outdoor coverage is pretty much on par with Verizon, except in rural areas where there's roaming. Not an issue for many. Indoor coverage certainly is inferior. Does not hold its signal as well as Verizon. I show no coverage inside much more than before (will be fixed when I upgrade my next phone.
 
When are the phone companies going to stop stealing from us?

I buy 10Gb of data in a month, at a price that is far higher than in many other countries. If I use only 7Gb, they simply steal the data I paid for.

The next month I use 11Gb, and they hit me with an overage charge. Even if I only used 1Gb a month for a year, and they have stolen 108Gb from me, they will still charge me extra if I go even a Kb over on the 13th month.

It is a disgusting practice, and this move by AT&T is one step ahead of literally the least they could do.

So how about they announce they are not going to steal anymore? A fair price for a decent service, and if I pay for it, I get to keep it until I use it.

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Welcome to beautiful corporate America...
 
Meanwhile, Verizon Support's canned response on Twitter to folks asking about data rollover:

"No reason for any roll over data! We have many great plans to fit all of our customers needs."

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I know those support people are just towing the company line -- which is all they can do until VZW makes an official announcement. It's just funny to see what they're saying now because you know once they start offering rollover data (likely soon), those same Twitter reps will be bragging about how great it is that customers can now rollover unused data.
 
AT&T has to respond to T-Mobile's moves more than Verizon does since their network isn't quite as good as Big Red. Verizon's LTE network is almost ubiquitous and as long as T-Mobile still turns iPhones into iPod Touches on the road, Verizon can continue to ignore them and charge more. Admittedly many people might not need to broad LTE coverage Verizon provides, but they are will to pay for that piece of mind.
 
BS. The profits AT&T and Verizon make are astronomical. If they were paying as much as you suggest on network maintenance, that wouldn't be the case. Further, the more customers T-Mobile acquires, the more it can invest in its network. This is what AT&T did when it first got the iPhone. It used to trail way behind Verizon and people used to complain like crazy about its network.

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Exactly, AT&T and Verizon are making huge profits now because of all the infrastructure investment they made. If they didn't charge a lot now they would go out of business because they are now reaping the rewards of their R&D and investments. They do not have positive cash flow for years while they upgrade. And they are currently investing in 5G so if we cut their growth now, we would have no 5G coverage 5 years from now.
 
At&t are hoping the "data unlimited" people will jump on board this
"mobile share data roll over" plan... I'm Sure!!!! No Thanks..!!!!
I'm Staying Unlimited Data Till I DIE.!!!
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Exactly, AT&T and Verizon are making huge profits now because of all the infrastructure investment they made. If they didn't charge a lot now they would go out of business because they are now reaping the rewards of their R&D and investments. They do not have positive cash flow for years while they upgrade. And they are currently investing in 5G so if we cut their growth now, we would have no 5G coverage 5 years from now.

minus several factors in this statement. We can compare us to the rest of the world.
We pay more and get less. They had to do the same build out there in places like Europe yet our speeds are lower and our cost is higher? They are making insane amounts of money. Top it off fair amount of their network was built on government money and government given monopoly. AT&T is the old bell network. They bought up all of them after they were broken up. Oh and those networks were build on you guess is government money.
Cut it short. You are buying and trying to sell a lie. A lie that when looked at closely you see does not add up. USA is behind. We pay more for less.
 
If you're only using 3, why are you paying for 20?

Sounds like he is in the same boat as me, probably on the 10GB plan, but got the 20GB increase through a retention loophole.

Now that I have 20GB for the 10GB price my wife and I are now using 8 to 12 GB per month though, not worrying about if on Wifi or not.

If he has the 20GB for the 10GB price I would hold on to that for dear life. as internet speeds get faster and websites get more data intensive we are going to use more and more data in the future, even doing the same task.

A lot of it having to do with increased graphics quality that we are pulling down from webpages.

You obviously don't have ATT. If you switch to a lesser plan, your actual plan costs go up so it is in fact CHEAPER to have the 20GB plan.

We just went through this. All of ATTs plans are seesaws. Reduce your data plan and the plan costs go up and you have less data. Buy the larger data plan and your other plan fees go down.

They do this because you pay more for data they they know you will NEVER actually use.

Pretty much this. The 1GB plan is too little data and breaks even for me on the 10GB plan. And I had my 10GB plan upgraded to 20GB.
 
Meanwhile, Verizon Support's canned response on Twitter to folks asking about data rollover:

"No reason for any roll over data! We have many great plans to fit all of our customers needs."

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I know those support people are just towing the company line -- which is all they can do until VZW makes an official announcement. It's just funny to see what they're saying now because you know once they start offering rollover data (likely soon), those same Twitter reps will be bragging about how great it is that customers can now rollover unused data.
Pretty much how any business works and has worked--promote what you have until you have something different to promote and then promote that.
 
Hangin onto unlimited for as long as I can. Maybe the inquiry one day will remove the throttling. I use too much data for the capped options to be cost effective.

I don't use a lot of data (1.5-2.5 GB/month), and it's STILL cheaper for me to stick with my unlimited plan than to get a capped plan.
 
T-mobile rolls over data, and it accumulate for a year. A rolling year. Once you hit 1 year, the oldest data is removed, but the rest remains. Its much more than just a month.

T-Mobile has the best deal and no other carrier will be willing to match it.
 
At&t runs at 0 profit? That is news to me...

Quit being an apologist for a company that gouges their customers, same goes for Comcast and TWC.

The only credit I give to At&t is that their customer service has been the best of any of the companies I've ever used and I've been with all of the big 4.

Sprint couldn't give a damn about their customers, I told them I was walking and they said it was fine with them. This was during the Dan Hesse era. I don't know how the new guy is doing.

Verizon are just a straight bunch of pricks. I will never shop with them ever again. Wouldn't even SELL me a SIM card even though I accidentally burned mine for my iPad.

Tmobile customer service is clueless and the in store reps use shady tactics (sneaking JUMP! onto your bill without asking permission).

And for your information I have run my own business and I don't nickel and dime people and still made a profit. There is thing called fair trade and then there is a thing called price gouging.

Letting your customers hold onto their data for 12 months costs you NOTHING. But high priced data caps with high priced overages, throttling once unlimited plans, extremely low point of entry data packages are all things that is considered bad business practices... maybe you should take a course or two in business before you smart off on people. :rolleyes:

So at the end of the year, you make no profit? Props to you then! You sure know how to manage your income and expenses so accurately that you can pay all expenses, including payroll, and come out at a flat 0 at the end. You should seriously write a book on how to do this. And charge a fraction of a penny so you come out at 0 again after expenses and time spent writing it.

If AT&T is price gouging, then so is McDonalds. I only drink 11oz of soda, so why should I have to pay for 12oz or 20oz or more?

I watch 3 movies a month on Netflix and pay the same rate as someone who watches 30 movies a month. I should get a credit from the person who watched the most to what I did. 3*(monthly rate / 30)

You pay for 200+ channels on a cable network yet watch maybe 2% of them, that's gouging too.

You buy extended warranty to protect your product, car, house, etc. You never use the warranty, that's gouging too then.

Just because you use or didn't use your allotted data, doesn't give you the right to use it later. Buy a plan appropriately sized for your usage.

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Or, they can switch to Sprint or T-Mobile...low-cost = low performance.

People don't realize that it takes money to build a great wireless network.

Exactly. And like most people can agree, AT&T has some really great US speaking customer service. I haven't had a single complaint since 2006. You pay for that. Just like you pay Apple pricing for their products and support.

If you don't like it, then switch. No one is forcing you to pay or use a service. The only thing you are forced to do is pay taxes. And that's only if you work :roll eyes:

I actually love AT&T. They are willing to stay competitive with other carriers instead of being stubborn, even if they don't match 100%. Look how far they've came since they stopped unlimited data!?
 
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So at the end of the year, you make no profit? Props to you then! You sure know how to manage your income and expenses so accurately that you can pay all expenses, including payroll, and come out at a flat 0 at the end. You should seriously write a book on how to do this. And charge a fraction of a penny so you come out at 0 again after expenses and time spent writing it.

If AT&T is price gouging, then so is McDonalds. I only drink 11oz of soda, so why should I have to pay for 12oz or 20oz or more?

I watch 3 movies a month on Netflix and pay the same rate as someone who watches 30 movies a month. I should get a credit from the person who watched the most to what I did. 3*(monthly rate / 30)

You pay for 200+ channels on a cable network yet watch maybe 2% of them, that's gouging too.

You buy extended warranty to protect your product, car, house, etc. You never use the warranty, that's gouging too then.

Just because you use or didn't use your allotted data, doesn't give you the right to use it later. Buy a plan appropriately sized for your usage.

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Exactly. And like most people can agree, AT&T has some really great US speaking customer service. I haven't had a single complaint since 2006. You pay for that. Just like you pay Apple pricing for their products and support.

If you don't like it, then switch. No one is forcing you to pay or use a service. The only thing you are forced to do is pay taxes. And that's only if you work :roll eyes:

I actually love AT&T. They are willing to stay competitive with other carriers instead of being stubborn, even if they don't match 100%. Look how far they've came since they stopped unlimited data!?

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Holy crap... talk about being an apologist for a company that is taking advantage of it's customers... They take away Unlimited data and throttle customers for years and then need to back pedal to stay competitive and you praise them?

If At&t were an honest company to their customers they wouldn't have a 300mb point of entry data plan. But for the sake of argument lets say that 300mb is fair... they could implement a cut off rather than an additional $20 charge for another 300mb. Something they did for years and before that at the 200mb level. It is clearly a plan to gouge and rip off customers, just as my fine city of Los Angeles gives out parking tickets for "street cleaning days" twice a week to people parked in the street, while all their trucks do is sweep the garbage from one side of the street to the other.

But there is no point for me to show you any actual proof that At&t is less than a honest company. You're either an employee for them or brainwashed, so you'll ignore any real reasoning. You're probably the same type that calls T-Mobile's Music Everywhere program a thing that breaks Net Neutrality even though there is no money exchanging hands.

If At&t was such a wonderful company why is it only NOW that they are scrambling to make this half-hearted attempt at letting their customers rollover their data? The customers have been literally asking for YEARS. Had they wanted to progress they would have done Rollover data 3 years ago... had T-mobile not completely changed the game we'd still be paying 80 bucks a month for 1000 minutes and then adding on 1gb of Data for 25 bucks a month for a subsidized phone plan.

I'm only going to reply to one of your examples because I have other things to do... but does Netflix cut you off if you watch too many shows this month? Do they have tiers of plans designed to with the mind that you will spill over it so that they can double bill you that month? Netflix is an all you can eat service. If At&t was an all you can eat service that was fairly priced nobody would be complaining.

You clearly don't have a clue about anything relating to business and consumer relations... besides blind consumer loyalty. You should switch to Tmobile and save some money so you can buy yourself a clue.
 
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I can guarantee a meeting took place at corporate AT&T where the agenda was:

What's the least amount we can do to stay competitive?

That a-hoe John Lingere steal our customers and ruined how we rob customers in the wireless industry. We must stay competitive in the least amount but still rob customers at the most amount.

That's our way of doing business. (AT&T)
 
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Holy crap... talk about being an apologist for a company that is taking advantage of it's customers... They take away Unlimited data and throttle customers for years and then need to back pedal to stay competitive and you praise them?

If At&t were an honest company to their customers they wouldn't have a 300mb point of entry data plan. But for the sake of argument lets say that 300mb is fair... they could implement a cut off rather than an additional $20 charge for another 300mb. Something they did for years and before that at the 200mb level. It is clearly a plan to gouge and rip off customers, just as my fine city of Los Angeles gives out parking tickets for "street cleaning days" twice a week to people parked in the street, while all their trucks do is sweep the garbage from one side of the street to the other.

But there is no point for me to show you any actual proof that At&t is less than a honest company. You're either an employee for them or brainwashed, so you'll ignore any real reasoning. You're probably the same type that calls T-Mobile's Music Everywhere program a thing that breaks Net Neutrality even though there is no money exchanging hands.

If At&t was such a wonderful company why is it only NOW that they are scrambling to make this half-hearted attempt at letting their customers rollover their data? The customers have been literally asking for YEARS. Had they wanted to progress they would have done Rollover data 3 years ago... had T-mobile not completely changed the game we'd still be paying 80 bucks a month for 1000 minutes and then adding on 1gb of Data for 25 bucks a month for a subsidized phone plan.

I'm only going to reply to one of your examples because I have other things to do... but does Netflix cut you off if you watch too many shows this month? Do they have tiers of plans designed to with the mind that you will spill over it so that they can double bill you that month? Netflix is an all you can eat service. If At&t was an all you can eat service that was fairly priced nobody would be complaining.

You clearly don't have a clue about anything relating to business and consumer relations... besides blind consumer loyalty. You should switch to Tmobile and save some money so you can buy yourself a clue.

Doesn't Apple do the same with 16GB iPhones as an entry point?

Weren't customers asking for big screen phones for years and Apple only delivered recently?

Why no vitriol for Apple? Maybe all corporations follow the same formula?
 
ATT does this because 90% of people go no where near their limit.

Find out when your month switches over - The day before, stream Netflix until you are .2gb away from your limit then stop.

Repeat every month and watch ATT take it all away.

I can see why AT&T users don't go near their limit. If they were to go over AT&T would charge them $15 per GB. Same with Verizon, if you go over you get charged $15 per GB. T-mobile offers unlimited high speed data for $30.
 
AT&T has to respond to T-Mobile's moves more than Verizon does since their network isn't quite as good as Big Red. Verizon's LTE network is almost ubiquitous and as long as T-Mobile still turns iPhones into iPod Touches on the road, Verizon can continue to ignore them and charge more. Admittedly many people might not need to broad LTE coverage Verizon provides, but they are will to pay for that piece of mind.

LOL, You drank the Red KoolAid and watched too much Verizon propaganda. I travel extensively and AT&T coverage is significantly better and extremely fast. The iPhone on Verizon's network is sketchy at best, especially in the south.

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I can see why AT&T users don't go near their limit. If they were to go over AT&T would charge them $15 per GB. Same with Verizon, if you go over you get charged $15 per GB. T-mobile offers unlimited high speed data for $30.

At T-Mobiles speeds and coverage nationwide, I guess they need to offer it for $30. AT&T's network is significantly more advanced and the coverage is no comparison.
 
You clearly don't have a clue about anything relating to business and consumer relations... besides blind consumer loyalty. You should switch to Tmobile and save some money so you can buy yourself a clue.

I have to side with unplugme71 and also note that you might want to save your pennies for a clue. In a competitive market, why should any company give away the store if they don't need to? No one was offering rollover data 3 years ago, so why should they? T-mobile only offers it because they are #3 (or #4) and are trying anything they can to capture more customers. They don't really ever have a chance of moving into #2 position.

I suggest you take all your pent up frustrations about ATT and either change carriers or throw your phone in the trash and move to a deserted island. Or, just get over it.

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LOL, You drank the Red KoolAid and watched too much Verizon propaganda. I travel extensively and AT&T coverage is significantly better and extremely fast. The iPhone on Verizon's network is sketchy at best, especially in the south.

While I agree with you, in some places (or many places) Verizon is better than AT&T. It's a YMMV type thing. I'm happy with my ATT coverage and speed.
 
Doesn't Apple do the same with 16GB iPhones as an entry point?

Weren't customers asking for big screen phones for years and Apple only delivered recently?

Why no vitriol for Apple? Maybe all corporations follow the same formula?

Read the book, Predictably Irrational, and you'll see why companies make products the way to do.

I ran my own business for years before going back to corporate world. We work to make money. I charged a fair price to value ratio to my customers. Sure I'd love to do things for free but then I would be living on the streets unable to do things for free to the next person.

Unlimited is such a flaky term these days because if you read the ToS, over-using the 'unlimited' can be cause for abuse which would suspend or close your account.

You think Netflix is really going to let you stream movies non-stop all month long, on all your devices, to all your family members on your account? Watch how fast Netflix either sends you a notice or raise the rates because of power hungry users.

Companies are in business to protect their assets and make a profit.
 
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Doesn't Apple do the same with 16GB iPhones as an entry point?

Weren't customers asking for big screen phones for years and Apple only delivered recently?

Why no vitriol for Apple? Maybe all corporations follow the same formula?

I actually have a similar issue with the Apple Watch... see other threads I post on.

The 16gb entry level at this point is BS for an iPad... but "doable" for an iPhone. There are people who just don't consume and thus don't need storage... ie 8gb iPhones users. But with iOS getting fatter and fatter 16gb is the new 8gb and 32gb should be the lowest point of entry for the iPhones. For the record I own 64gb models of Air 2 and iPhone 6.

I wouldn't be surprised if the 6S and the 6S Plus started at the 32gb mark.

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I have to side with unplugme71 and also note that you might want to save your pennies for a clue. In a competitive market, why should any company give away the store if they don't need to? No one was offering rollover data 3 years ago, so why should they? T-mobile only offers it because they are #3 (or #4) and are trying anything they can to capture more customers. They don't really ever have a chance of moving into #2 position.

I suggest you take all your pent up frustrations about ATT and either change carriers or throw your phone in the trash and move to a deserted island. Or, just get over it.
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Oh I left them already... and happily. And I was with them for over decade.
With your mentality I bet you enjoy paying your $150 for cable, essentially a dumb pipeline for TV channels. It's ass backwards acceptance because "that's just how it is" that puts progression in technology at a standstill. This is why other countries have WAY better mobile and home internet structures than the US does.

I do complement At&t's Customer Service... which both of you and Unplug ignored.

Thankfully people like John Legere exist to progress things and you don't run companies.
 
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Read the book, Predictably Irrational, and you'll see why companies make products the way to do.

I ran my own business for years before going back to corporate world. We work to make money. I charged a fair price to value ratio to my customers. Sure I'd love to do things for free but then I would be living on the streets unable to do things for free to the next person.

Unlimited is such a flaky term these days because if you read the ToS, over-using the 'unlimited' can be cause for abuse which would suspend or close your account.

You think Netflix is really going to let you stream movies non-stop all month long, on all your devices, to all your family members on your account? Watch how fast Netflix either sends you a notice or raise the rates because of power hungry users.

Companies are in business to protect their assets and make a profit.

So you bash Netflix with a hypothetical situation where they cut you off but praise At&t for throttling their customers... you've got a twisted sense of fair business.
 
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