I think AT&T should fix New York so that it gets basic, reliable 3G speeds before it tries to tweak the currently broken network up to 7.2Mpbs.
...could not agree more
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AT&T Announces Rollout Plans for 7.2 Mbps 3G Service
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...could not agree more
...could not agree more
By speeding up 3G where it is at today, it will help everyone in that area.
give me credit for getting this new stuff into Miami.
What did I do? I sent out some ninjas to the at&t office last week and had them give the big wigs the scare of their life.
You're welcome!!!!!
What did I do? I sent out some ninjas to the at&t office last week and had them give the big wigs the scare of their life.
You're welcome!!!!!
This certainly doesn't count suburbs and the greater metro area. I live in Indianapolis (#13) where the city is defined by the boundaries of the county. Add in the suburbs that surround the county lines and watch that number more than double. In fact, the US Census Bureau lists Indianapolis' MSA at more than 1.7M that was back in 2006.
I remember hearing back in the spring that the 3GS had a chipset capable of taking advantage of 3.5G speeds and have to believe that the upload speed issue is software not hardware related. I knew investing in the 3GS was investing in a device that had a longer shelf life than previous iPhone generations.
Yeah because Verizon has no drops spots and blinding fast data speeds everywhere.
Ladies and gentleman... as long as you live in the USA you're cell coverage will be crap. You can thank the government for that.
Ladies and gentleman... as long as you live in the USA you're cell coverage will be crap. You can thank the government for that.
Good thing Charlotte is getting it because us New Yorkers don't need it at all.
? because NYC is more important than Charlotte?
it baffles me too. if a provider in stockholm can provide this speed for less than what ATT charges, it begs the question: why can't ATT provide the same level of service for similar rates as Stockholm.
my friend in japan pays less than 40$ per month for his wired internet at 40mb up and downstream. when he told me this, i had the same response: gee, what gives? are providers in the US technologically backwards, cheapskates, clueless, shortsighted or all of the above?
yeah yeah...
while this is good news to me since I live in Charlotte and am making a move soon to Los Angeles... I'll believe it when I see it.
AT&T is ABYSMAL in Charlotte at the moment. I have on average less bars, than more bars showing on my phone and it doesn't work in my house which is <10 miles from the dead center of one of the fastest growing cities in the country. I can take a map and draw out glaringly annoying dead spots that run right on 277 (the small loop that loops around downtown) and on I-77 which is the main vein through town. So every time I see a "more bars in more places" billboard I want to punch someone smaller than me and not feel bad about it. Its not smart to plaster those signs everywhere in a place that you have piss poor service in. 3G just completely stopped working for like a week and a half just a few weeks ago. I wouldn't have known since I keep my phone on EDGE mostly for the more reliable service and battery savings, until about 10 of my iPhone toting friends kept asking me if I was having data connection issues. I flicked the 3G back on to find that I couldnt pull data whatsoever. Not good. (end rant)
BOO hoo, i know right. everyone's got the same stories (with notable exceptions from those who praise AT&T who live in FLorida). I'll buy that 7.2mbps when I see it. And IF i do see it before years end... i'll feel slightly less raped by that company than I do now. But only very slightly.
while this is good news to me since I live in Charlotte and am making a move soon to Los Angeles... I'll believe it when I see it.
AT&T is ABYSMAL in Charlotte at the moment. I have on average less bars, than more bars showing on my phone and it doesn't work in my house which is <10 miles from the dead center of one of the fastest growing cities in the country. I can take a map and draw out glaringly annoying dead spots that run right on 277 (the small loop that loops around downtown) and on I-77 which is the main vein through town. So every time I see a "more bars in more places" billboard I want to punch someone smaller than me and not feel bad about it. Its not smart to plaster those signs everywhere in a place that you have piss poor service in. 3G just completely stopped working for like a week and a half just a few weeks ago. I wouldn't have known since I keep my phone on EDGE mostly for the more reliable service and battery savings, until about 10 of my iPhone toting friends kept asking me if I was having data connection issues. I flicked the 3G back on to find that I couldnt pull data whatsoever. Not good. (end rant)
BOO hoo, i know right. everyone's got the same stories (with notable exceptions from those who praise AT&T who live in FLorida). I'll buy that 7.2mbps when I see it. And IF i do see it before years end... i'll feel slightly less raped by that company than I do now. But only very slightly.
I'll belive it when I see
I don't have high hopes for this news. They send it should begin by the end of the year. If it's anything like the MMS for the iphone it will be the beginning of next year.
As for the 2011 it will most likely be 2012.
I think it's too late for AT&T to address the issue the users have been having.
I don't have high hopes for this news. They send it should begin by the end of the year. If it's anything like the MMS for the iphone it will be the beginning of next year.
As for the 2011 it will most likely be 2012.
I think it's too late for AT&T to address the issue the users have been having.
Same reason Ford makes a car in Detroit and sells for $20k at a loss, whereas Toyota makes a car in Japan and sells for $20k at a 25% profit. Union labor destroys our ability to compete with any other nation. When we're paying a guy $100k to climb a pole and cross connect a wire, yet in sweeden they have to charge someone for that ridiculousness... Unions control AT&T and Verizon, which ultimately supply the backhaul to all US carriers so everyone bears the burdon. Sad Sad Sad...
How about upgrading existing edge to 3g before putting us even further behind? Time for AT&T to get its crap together, because I'd say a large number of their customers are there because they have to be. If they had another option, they'd jump ship. I hate Verizon with a passion, but if an iPhone on Verizon meant I could have 3G speeds on my iPhone in the areas that I spend 99.999% of my time in, rather than Edge, I'd switch in a heartbeat. I'd pay full price for an iPhone if it meant I could have 3G where I live, or closer than two hours away.
I hate Verizon's customer service, but their network kicks AT&T's A$$.
I hate Verizon's customer service, but their network kicks AT&T's A$$.
actually, your argument brings up something that I've noticed while living in Scandinavia ... quality is king and cost is irrelevant, while in the US, cost is king.
people here don't mind paying hugely expensive prices IF the quality is high, which pushes up both the cost and the quality. the crappiest item available is much higher quality than in the US (can't get a pair of jeans for less than 60USD and Levis usually run 100-150). also, Swedes really invest in very high quality infrastructure ... beautiful subway system ... even though it's 40 SEK (6.5 USD) for a single round trip fare.
it's funny. i've changed a lot from living here, and I'm not looking forward to moving to Frankfurt
It's not that ...
Many of the complaints are valid ... ATT has a history of saying one thing and then not delivering, or poorly executing what they do deploy.
By many accounts measurable, ATT is behind and catching up. They are an old company trying to compete in new world, so it's not easy. They were frankly lucky to have been chosen by Apple to be the exclusive carrier, and as such, are being held to a higher standard.
It doesn't matter how much they spend ... it has to work for customers. Every carrier spends billions of dollars, and every carrier makes billions in profit. That's no excuse.
I live in an area with 60,000 people with several large companies (including the world headquarters of a multi-billion dollar global manufacturer). No 3G, let alone a faster 3G. Verizon and Sprint has had 3G here for a long time, and ATT has told me repeatedly 3G will be turned on for the last 2 years.
Hard to be trusting of ATT until they actually deliver.
Many of the complaints are valid ... ATT has a history of saying one thing and then not delivering, or poorly executing what they do deploy.
By many accounts measurable, ATT is behind and catching up. They are an old company trying to compete in new world, so it's not easy. They were frankly lucky to have been chosen by Apple to be the exclusive carrier, and as such, are being held to a higher standard.
It doesn't matter how much they spend ... it has to work for customers. Every carrier spends billions of dollars, and every carrier makes billions in profit. That's no excuse.
I live in an area with 60,000 people with several large companies (including the world headquarters of a multi-billion dollar global manufacturer). No 3G, let alone a faster 3G. Verizon and Sprint has had 3G here for a long time, and ATT has told me repeatedly 3G will be turned on for the last 2 years.
Hard to be trusting of ATT until they actually deliver.
actually, your argument brings up something that I've noticed while living in Scandinavia ... quality is king and cost is irrelevant, while in the US, cost is king.
people here don't mind paying hugely expensive prices IF the quality is high, which pushes up both the cost and the quality. the crappiest item available is much higher quality than in the US (can't get a pair of jeans for less than 60USD and Levis usually run 100-150). also, Swedes really invest in very high quality infrastructure ... beautiful subway system ... even though it's 40 SEK (6.5 USD) for a single round trip fare.
it's funny. i've changed a lot from living here, and I'm not looking forward to moving to Frankfurt
Really? Levis at Macy's here are $30-$40 USD, now I see why the tourists take suitcases home. And to go round trip on our underground (SF) costs up to $8.60 USD.... so not sure how your comments are relevant. And not sure Scandinavia is exactly the pinnacle of world admiration, tourism, or economy.
It seems every post turns into a "I wish the iPhone was on Verizon/T-Mobile/etc" ... it's getting old. You have no say in what carrier Apples chooses to tie themselves to, so live with AT&T. My AT&T service has been great, 3G speeds have been amazing. The only issue I really have with AT&T is the cost, but it's tolerable.
Argh! I can't believe you guys are excited about 7.2 Mbps, here in Australia, Telstra have had 21 Mbps since April 2009 over ALL of their 850MHz 'Next G' network.
They've also got coverage at something like 99% of the population - which is crazy! Considering how low our population density is for 20 million people.
I think Vodafone and Singtel/Optus of here have their 900 MHz networks at about 96% or 98% population coverage and at 14 Mbps.
Why is the US so far behind on this one???
They've also got coverage at something like 99% of the population - which is crazy! Considering how low our population density is for 20 million people.
I think Vodafone and Singtel/Optus of here have their 900 MHz networks at about 96% or 98% population coverage and at 14 Mbps.
Why is the US so far behind on this one???
3G in St. Augustine, Florida
We would gladly settle for regular ole' 3G down here in St. Augustine, Florida. Works great just north in Jacksonville, but no go from St. Augustine to Daytona.
We would gladly settle for regular ole' 3G down here in St. Augustine, Florida. Works great just north in Jacksonville, but no go from St. Augustine to Daytona.
us=capitalism to the max
capitalism ≠ service
capitalism = maximum profits
Upgrading the networks in the US would cut profits, so it only happens when there is no other choice - competitive reasons, too many complaints (so many that business is threatened, etc.)
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Verizon is not so great there either. I have to step out into the hallway near a window to use my phone when I see my cardiologist.
Hope this will solve the problem for us in Europe
After the rollout, AT&T should have no objections regarding full use of 3G cellular on the iPhone for Skype calls, YouTube with same quality as on Wi-Fi, Google voice etc.. According to their answer to FCC regarding agreement with Apple, they have no objections since there is no agreement with Apple. At least not formally... Hope this solves the issue permanently so that the rest of the world can use the iPhone to its full potential.
After the rollout, AT&T should have no objections regarding full use of 3G cellular on the iPhone for Skype calls, YouTube with same quality as on Wi-Fi, Google voice etc.. According to their answer to FCC regarding agreement with Apple, they have no objections since there is no agreement with Apple. At least not formally... Hope this solves the issue permanently so that the rest of the world can use the iPhone to its full potential.
Wouldn't a large population in a small area makes it easier for a provider to supply a decent infrastructure?