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Congratulations, you live in a country with an area the size of California.

So Sweden is a small country but we have plans that allow is to use our mobile networks to whatever we want, unfortunately US is not a free country in that respect. It's a shame that Apple's dictatorship prevents the rest of the world to use their iPhone to its full potential, despite the non-existing agreement between AT&T and Apple... The only solution at the moment is to jailbreak.
 
actually, your argument brings up something that I've noticed while living in Scandinavia ... quality is king and cost is irrelevant, while in the US, cost is king.

people here don't mind paying hugely expensive prices IF the quality is high, which pushes up both the cost and the quality. the crappiest item available is much higher quality than in the US (can't get a pair of jeans for less than 60USD and Levis usually run 100-150). also, Swedes really invest in very high quality infrastructure ... beautiful subway system ... even though it's 40 SEK (6.5 USD) for a single round trip fare.

it's funny. i've changed a lot from living here, and I'm not looking forward to moving to Frankfurt :(

I love Scandinavia and have been there many times and have family in Finland as well. I'm also Swedish by heritage.

You are so wrong in your observations however. Everything there is hugely expensive, there is no option to buy something cheap. This is because of the very high tax rates. It's not that people WANT to spend more, they just have to and that is what they are used to so they don't mind. The quality is also, NOT better (maybe in your mind it is). I would say it is equal to the quality of items in the US - more or less in some cases. In general I would say food was of the same quality and clothing was more or less the same since it's all made the same place anyways. Electronics are all the same, appliances are all the same. Furniture in the U.S. is generally of better quality.

Sweden/Scandinavia in general has far fewer large cities as well - so that explains your great subway. High taxes + less infrastructure to invest in = nicer infrastructure.

Again I love Scandinavian countries and they do a lot I wish the U.S. would do, but they aren't some mecca of progress and perfection either.
 
I love Scandinavia and have been there many times and have family in Finland as well. I'm also Swedish by heritage.

You are so wrong in your observations however. Everything there is hugely expensive, there is no option to buy something cheap. This is because of the very high tax rates. It's not that people WANT to spend more, they just have to and that is what they are used to so they don't mind. The quality is also, NOT better (maybe in your mind it is). I would say it is equal to the quality of items in the US - more or less in some cases. In general I would say food was of the same quality and clothing was more or less the same since it's all made the same place anyways. Electronics are all the same, appliances are all the same. Furniture in the U.S. is generally of better quality.

Sweden/Scandinavia in general has far fewer large cities as well - so that explains your great subway. High taxes + less infrastructure to invest in = nicer infrastructure.

Again I love Scandinavian countries and they do a lot I wish the U.S. would do, but they aren't some mecca of progress and perfection either.

Ok, so Sweden is small like California - whats the justification for Telstra covering 99% of Australia with 21 Mbps when AT&T is only starting to roll out 7.2 Mbps in *select locations* - Australia and the USA are similar in land mass (excl. Alaska and Hawaii) - so if Telstra can make $1.9 billion profit covering a market of 20 million people - what are AT&T doing???
 
Ok, so Sweden is small like California - whats the justification for Telstra covering 99% of Australia with 21 Mbps when AT&T is only starting to roll out 7.2 Mbps in *select locations* - Australia and the USA are similar in land mass (excl. Alaska and Hawaii) - so if Telstra can make $1.9 billion profit covering a market of 20 million people - what are AT&T doing???

I'd love to see where you get the fact "Telstra covers 99% of Australia with 21 mbps" ... because I know for a fact that in the outback there's "No Bars" which accounts for about 99% of the country. Stop ********ting.
 
Thanks for nothing, AT&T. Rogers of Canada still has a better wireless service than you clunkers. I never reach the theoretical max speed for my iPhone 3G here in Austin, and now you expect me to believe that your 7.2mbps rollout will be any different? Bah.

Signed,

Waiting for the LTE iPhone


Here's the link to Speedtest.net app its Free so test it and post what your 3G Speed is because here's in Houston,TX it's 1.2-Mbps.

http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=300704847&mt=8
 
Again I love Scandinavian countries and they do a lot I wish the U.S. would do, but they aren't some mecca of progress and perfection either.

No but we can use 3G cellular at 7.2Mbit/s without restrictions. 2g/edge is more or less useless, I´ve noticed this when I only have that connection once in a while. 3G cellular with the iPhone is like going from a slow modem connection to 10Mbit/s. Unfortunately, Apple has crippled the iPhone for all users (jailbreaked excluded) due to the fact that the US is stuck in the 20th century with respect to mobile internet.
 
Did anyone notice that AT&T is doing a MyFavs thing as well (called A-List). The downside is you have to have a 900 minute individual plan (59.99) or a 1400 minute family plan (89.99) to be able to use the feature...
 
I've made this argument before and I'll make it again. We already have 160Mb/s LTE in some parts of Stockholm and the whole country (98%+, there are some water-based dead spots) is 3G and the size of California.

If California has 35 million people, why can't they do it? That's 4x the population density.

I guess I don't understand your argument.

So you are saying that the people of California should petition or propose for AT&T to bring 3G coverage to the entire state. Yeah, that will happen. I would guess that over 90% of the population of California does not even know what 3G is.

Actually, your argument makes no sense. I'm pretty sure AT&T could provide excellent 3G coverage to California and all its people if it were the only state they provided service to and no other providers (Verizon, Cricket, etc) exist.
 
Cool houston will get it. i live just west of Houston in the suburbs.


test below are using Cisco Global internet speed test app
all speeds in kbps
wifi (802.11g) with comcast----high 3246 avg 3065 low 2832
3g -----------------high 710 avg 615 low 433
edge---------------high 160 avg 150 low 129
 
Wow, no New York or San Francisco ?! Talk about shooting your self in the foot AT&T. Well, it doesn't really matter anyway. With some luck, the iPhone won't be just on AT&T by the time they really get moving with this roll out.

I can't wait to drop AT&T for a better provider.
 
this is bullsh*t

I upgraded from original iPhone to 3GS thinking I'd get 3GS as Apple billed.

False advertising
Violation of (at least implied) service level agreement

********.
 
One more reason I love AT&T ... sort of. :)
(If I could get a plan of $30 data, $15 text, and $9.99 voice minutes, I actually would love AT&T)

You have to have a 3GS though, right? This should help Apple sell a lot more 3GS to people who only have a 3G.

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Considering what a wretched city Dallas is, the 7.2Mbps will make it tolerable.

I'd love to get European speed and prices. However, that won't happen as long as the companies are on different standards. If we had one radio standard for all the companies, I think we'd be a lot further along. Also Apple wouldn't have had to limit itself to one company (unless it really wanted to). Sometimes, choice isn't such a good thing.
 
AT&T seems to be in the news alot lately for their network buckling under the pressure of the iPhone. Everyone is blaming iPhone users for their spotty reception and you know what I say to that.... so what!!!

AT&T knew full well what they were potentially getting into, but did they prepare? No they were too busy raking in record profits and to hell with all the iPhone users paying by the bucketload for quality service. Now at the very last moment they suddenly realized, hey, uhh maybe we should start upgrading our system, those iPhones are starting to fly off the shelves. They should have had the foresight to know that a $99 iPhone would flock people to the network.
Now they're putting out fake bloggers to explain their woes on youTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5yIVgj0VVA. You know what, it's time to pay the piper AT&T, analyst are putting in their 2 cents saying that its like a small pipe everyone is using and only so much could go through at a time, maybe it's time for a bigger pipe.

Instead of upgrading to faster 3G why not get a jump start on the competition and start upgrading to 4G, why spend billions on 3G upgrades only to spend billions more on a 4G network next year, oh yeah, they're in big trouble right now, not next year.
 
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