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No. You should just get a different phone. If you don't use the iPhone, why would you have it? To be cool?

Because I use it, and I like it. When I said 60 minutes, I meant voice minutes.

I love my iPhone. I use it for hours every day.

EDIT: YOU get a different phone
 
Telling me how much you're on wifi only adds to the fact that you're not a light user. At least, not this month.

Data usage, maybe. This does not PROVIDE additional bandwidth, and in no way means you deserve more for the same price.

Let me clarify. This month and a few previous months (since may) I've been on wifi at work. Before that I've been mostly on 3G. Thats when my usage was 200-250mb per month. I work in the film industry, so it's hard to know where I'll be working next. And having wifi is not a given. But my usage has always been low. iCloud's is going to change this for most iPhone users. I don't use facebook much, I don't have time to watch movies on Netflix(at least when I'm on 3G.). The biggest part of my usage before iCloud was probably gps maps and streaming NPR in the car. The future of mobile data is going to s**k if 2gb is the cap... S**k hard...
 
You know, I really deliberated responding to you given your less than reputable posting status and your rather bombastic attitude towards something so trite, but I couldn't resist.

You just proved WHY it needs to be done, then argued against it !
It's called qualifying a statement. Perhaps if you had some sense of literacy you would have noted the statement that I had quoted which blasted the article's subject for overusing the Internet on worthless content. There is rather valid usage of such data, which I highlighted, especially if he is without home Internet access. As such, it would appear that this article should focus more on tethering usage (which he undoubtedly does) rather than total data usage, but perhaps that slipped through your head.

The statement that followed that qualification was yet another qualification of my statement, wherein I attested to the potential for abuse and limiting of services rendered.

I dare you to not Check yourself into a mental institution after !
I dare you to become less illiterate and confrontational.
 
It is just a greed factor for AT&T.

Yes it is and they have learned from the finest ... Mr Steve Jobs.

When I pay over $3,000 for a loaded 15" MBP, and concurrently purchase a ThinkPad with equal specs for just $1700, Apple Tax rears it's ugly head.

Yes, I use BOTH a PC and Mac, working in a cross platform engineering position that I have held for 14 years. That's a lot of PowerBooks/MacBook Pros and ThinkPads.

In addition speaking from personal experience, these two have identical components in every area, and the argument that Macs last longer is the biggest myth I've ever heard.

As Mac Laptop User and Apple Loyalist, the pricing is no surprise, as I have been paying this kind of difference year after year for my annual upgrade to each manufacturers latest model.

Nor is this post sour grapes, because I really like my Macs and can very easily afford them. It's been, and will continue to be my laptop of choice until it's ruined by Apples migration to the "Post PC" era.

I do indeed give Apple a lot of credit.

They have built an empire off our wallets. Brilliant indeed. Apples prices are legendary. Kudos to the master of smoke and mirrors.

It will be very interesting and revealing to see where Apple stands a few years from now, when Apple is no longer run and or influenced by Steve Jobs.
 
You all are aware that AT&T posted revenue of $30.8 billion in 2010, right? It is sickening how the American consumer falls for the "corporate victim" marketing strategy being employed so heavily since the economic downturn began. AT&T is making more money than ever. Bank of America is making more money than ever. They both continue to turn the screws on the consumer, telling us that they have to do it in order to remain solvent. You people that fall for this s%$t are idiots.

Guess how much they throttle data in Japan, or South Korea, or even CHINA? They don't, period.
 
Let me clarify. This month and a few previous months (since may) I've been on wifi at work. Before that I've been mostly on 3G. Thats when my usage was 200-250mb per month. I work in the film industry, so it's hard to know where I'll be working next. And having wifi is not a given. But my usage has always been low. iCloud's is going to change this for most iPhone users. I don't use facebook much, I don't have time to watch movies on Netflix(at least when I'm on 3G.). The biggest part of my usage before iCloud was probably gps maps and streaming NPR in the car. The future of mobile data is going to s**k if 2gb is the cap... S**k hard...

No one is talking about cutting you off at 2gb; you'll just need to buy more data. Just like when you use electricity, or fuel, or water. When you're working in a place with wifi, the first 2gb might be enough. When you're not, budget a couple more $10s for data that month. Isn't this the forum full of people bragging about how Apple users spend piles of money on apps, and music, and movies, and denigrate Android users for not spending? Why is paying for bandwidth anathema?
 
EDIT: YOU get a different phone


Why would I get a different phone? Unlike you, I use my iPhone for more than checking e-mail.

You can't get upset at other people for using their 'unlimited' date plans because you yourself only use it to check e-mail. An iPhone does so much more than that, and a lot of it takes data.
 
You all are aware that AT&T posted revenue of $30.8 billion in 2010, right? It is sickening how the American consumer falls for the "corporate victim" marketing strategy being employed so heavily since the economic downturn began. AT&T is making more money than ever. Bank of America is making more money than ever. They both continue to turn the screws on the consumer, telling us that they have to do it in order to remain solvent. You people that fall for this s%$t are idiots.

Guess how much they throttle data in Japan, or South Korea, or even CHINA? They don't, period.

What was Apple's revenue in 2010? How come that isn't "sickening"? Is Apple the only company allowed to make money?

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Why would I get a different phone? Unlike you, I use my iPhone for more than checking e-mail.

You can't get upset at other people for using their 'unlimited' date plans because you yourself only use it to check e-mail. An iPhone does so much more than that, and a lot of it takes data.

Yup. And you're going to pay for that data. What's the issue with that?
 
Why would I get a different phone? Unlike you, I use my iPhone for more than checking e-mail.

You can't get upset at other people for using their 'unlimited' date plans because you yourself only use it to check e-mail. An iPhone does so much more than that, and a lot of it takes data.

You use yours to jerk off to porn and play Angry Birds, and I'll use mine however I want.

You got this all wrong, I have unlimited data plan and I want to encourage everyone to use theirs however they want.
 
No one is talking about cutting you off at 2gb; you'll just need to buy more data. Just like when you use electricity, or fuel, or water. When you're working in a place with wifi, the first 2gb might be enough. When you're not, budget a couple more $10s for data that month. Isn't this the forum full of people bragging about how Apple users spend piles of money on apps, and music, and movies, and denigrate Android users for not spending? Why is paying for bandwidth anathema?

Because I used 2GB without even thinking about it this month. And thats before iCloud and photo stream and the like were fully implemented. All while on wifi half the time. If I were to go to the tiered plan that could potentially add a lot more than $10-20 per month to my bill. More like $40+. And that's just in the near future. What happens next year when my data usage goes up? And you know it will, everyone's will, it's the way of the future...

Edit: Also, I'm on unlimited, I shouldn't have to agonize over every thing I download. That's the point of an unlimited plan. If I have to count mbs, I'll miss out on something awesome on the internet...
 
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does anyone know if there has been any word yet on att forgiveness? like last year when they let anyone with contracts ending in 6mos to not have to pay for cancellation.
 
I have to go, but I'll leave you all with this thought; if I'm on an unlimited plan, and I have to keep track of my usage for fear of being throttled, is it still an unlimited plan?... And do you see yoruself using less data in the future, or more?
 
You all are aware that AT&T posted revenue of $30.8 billion in 2010, right? It is sickening how the American consumer falls for the "corporate victim" marketing strategy being employed so heavily since the economic downturn began. AT&T is making more money than ever. Bank of America is making more money than ever. They both continue to turn the screws on the consumer, telling us that they have to do it in order to remain solvent. You people that fall for this s%$t are idiots.

Guess how much they throttle data in Japan, or South Korea, or even CHINA? They don't, period.

Do you know what the word "Revenue" means?
 
It's so obvious that this is nothing more than a scheme by AT&T to get those unlimited subscribers to "voluntarily" give up their existing data plans. They claim to honour the original agreement, yet make the experience so undesirable to the subscribers that it is no longer worth it to stay on the original plan.

Nor can I believe how the people here can be faulting those who consume do much data. Um, isn't that precisely what they paid for? Why shouldn't they be allowed to use as much bandwidth as they desire? Plus, however they use it is their problem, not yours. :confused:
 
Don't call people self entitled jerks just because they use data services more than you. I'm a light user and have very nearly used 2gb this month all while being on wifi around half my waking hours. 2GB is too small a cap. I didn't even stream videos. AT&T should have raised that cap to 5gb this year. Next year it should go to 7-10gb ect... Moore's law and all.


If the shoe fits, dude....if the shoe fits. I called them that not because the are using so much data specifically, but because they act like they DESERVE to have it and they complain even though they signed a contract that clearly states that AT&T can change the rules.

Hence the self-entitled comment.
 
MiFi

We have Verizon MiFi.

5GB per month for $60

If you go over, it's 5 cents per MB.

A month ago, we went waaaaaay over. We didn't loose speed, but we paid for the usage. About 8GB cost us slightly over $205.00

Punitive

But, I still think it's better to pay more than to get throttled. We got throttled with Hughes.net satellite internet. If you approached your per day usage limit, you were knocked down to just below dialup speed for 24 hours. And that wasn't being measured in GB, but MB. really low usage allowance.

now that is mind blowing.

These days, the same Verizon MiFi device isn't as expensive per GB and the overage isn't as expensive either. Funny how, in this case, the new signups get great deals. But, with AT&T, they value loyalty and you are grandfathered in.

The only way I could get the better Verizon rates now would be to buy a new device and go thru another 2 year contract period. It's disgusting.
 
Forget it. If they advertise it as unlimited then that's what it should be. If they throttle it then it is no longer unlimited.
All ISPs should be prevented from using the term unlimited unless they specify up front clearly what they mean by it.

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Your siggy is pointed at those from the US no?

I completely agree
 
Well then then the company is false advertising a service. Unless the company specially defines what they mean when they say "unlimited" service
 
Between a rock and a hard place

What really gets me is

1. The data plans and the internet providers who want to limit what you use
2. The ads by those very companies who promote fantastic speeds and encourage you to use them with reckless abandon
3. The number of companies and websites that are built around using massive amounts of data to run their programs or use their products.
4. The attitude of SOME urban dwellers who think that if you live in the country you deserve to be deprived of highspeed internet and good service.
5. The insanely fortunate people somewhere down south who were provided highspeed/broadband internet by google over fiberoptics. They have been quoted as saying that they don't know what the point of all the bandwidth is. They can't imagine how they will ever find uses for it.

Sometimes I just want to live in a cave and go back to writing on rocks.

I am one of those rural dwellers who has watched as the cities have gotten more and more connected while we live disconnected but desperate.

I have seen James Earl Jones repeatedly ask me on TV ads (Verizon I believe?) why I don't get high speed internet. What he didn't realize was that it wasn't offered in our area. We could see the ad for internet, but it wasn't available in our area. How f-d up is that?? I called Verizon one time and told them how annoying it was that we could see the darn ad in our viewing area, but that they didn't offer the service. Well, maybe they listened to me! The ads stopped not long after that.

So, as frustrated as some of you are about your current internet or phone dilemmas, there are others out there that might be even worse off.

we won't see 4G where I live for years probably.
 
I have to go, but I'll leave you all with this thought; if I'm on an unlimited plan, and I have to keep track of my usage for fear of being throttled, is it still an unlimited plan?... And do you see yoruself using less data in the future, or more?

If you can't handle the mental strain, just change the regular data plan and pay for your usage and not worry about over-stressing your brain.
 
If the shoe fits, dude....if the shoe fits. I called them that not because the are using so much data specifically, but because they act like they DESERVE to have it and they complain even though they signed a contract that clearly states that AT&T can change the rules.

Hence the self-entitled comment.

Umm...they paid for that right. To me, they are as entitled as they feel darn wished. AT&T made the rules, these customers are simply playing by those rules. How is it their fault?

Also, the contract did have such a clause, but I believe it would not have specified exactly just what "fair use" entailed. This makes it way to arbitrary, since the company can easily deem any amount of usage as "excessive".

I too can argue "Why is 12gb considered excessive? Why not 20 or even 50gb?" It's just greed, plain and simple.
 
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