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AT&T Begins Warning High-Volume Data Users of Upcoming Throttling
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these people will be still getting unlimited but not at the speed they think, because they go beyond fair use
Fool!
When you buy something you should get what it says you get... Not sort of!
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent
Next you'll be agreeing with 'throttling' the people who drive more because they wear the roads down more for others... I f they sold that contract then that is their problem
Forget about if its Fair or not
I'll admit.
I don't understand.
Don't they warn High Data Users that paid for "Unlimited" they will be automatically be charged a tethering ?
If they have this going on, Why throttle us that are grandfathered in?
I'm pretty sure I never go that high, but still it's the policy that seems a little strange.
In the end though, if this will help me and the other normal usage users get better speeds and clear up the bandwidth....
Well, good
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It's also seems like an attempt to even out the speeds for ALL users so AT&T can shake the unwarranted and unfair reputation some people have. Especially on the East Coast
I'll admit.
I don't understand.
Don't they warn High Data Users that paid for "Unlimited" they will be automatically be charged a tethering ?
If they have this going on, Why throttle us that are grandfathered in?
I'm pretty sure I never go that high, but still it's the policy that seems a little strange.
In the end though, if this will help me and the other normal usage users get better speeds and clear up the bandwidth....
Well, good
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It's also seems like an attempt to even out the speeds for ALL users so AT&T can shake the unwarranted and unfair reputation some people have. Especially on the East Coast
Stop trying to apply logic and facts here. People want the sensational headline so they can flip out and whine complain about something, espcially AT&T related, even when they are only using 300 Meg a month and this would never ever impact them.
/sarcasm
Either you're joking or you don't understand what any of those words mean.
Please tell me you're joking.
So which is it?
Do you believe they should give you what they say you get or not?
You're disagreeing with yourself.
They don't have to grandfather you in when you get a new phone so just be thankful they still do that.
Wrong. If you recall when AT&T switched from unlimited plans to the current data plans, they told you that only 2% of people went over 2GB/month. And they're throttling 5%, you do the math......
I'm a little confused. If AT&T sets a limit for data and you go over it, they want to throttle you now. But does that mean there is no penalty fee? I mean, if people go over the limit - whatever the reason - and they pay the additional fees, shouldn't that be enough? AT&T wants to charge data overage fees and throttle? I consider that a double dip.
This is almost a perfect way of handling this. AT&T is still providing unlimited access (like they promised) just at a reduced speed so you don't degrade the service of 19 in 20 for the sake of the 1 in 20 who wants to download 10GB of data per month (compared the average user which is typically under 250MB).
Effectively the guy using 10GB of data per month is throttling everybody else's service downward since there is only so much network pipe. And regardless of what AT&T does there will always be only so much network pipe. The more you increase bandwidth the more people will consume. So they need to throttle people who are over-using it and they clearly can't give any sort of minimum guarantees on bandwidth since there are so many variables.
Howerver, the problem with this is that it can't just be the top 5% of users. It needs to be two conditions:
1) You are in the top 5% of usage
2) Your network usage is greater than X GB per month (say 4 or 5 GB)
Why? Because if all these folks in the top 5% reduce their usage next month by 10%, they will likely STILL be in the top 5%. That's how percentages work. If everybody using AT&T only used 2GB of data per month on their unlimited then the person in the top 5% would be the person who used 2.01GB.
So AT&T's current policy will eventually fail if the top users seriously start dropping their usage because they will all come down together and therefore the net effect is to ask them to drop even further the next month.
I personally think that if you are using less usage than their current premium data plan (e.g.: 4GB) that they should never subject you to this throttling. Since effectively the "unlimited" plan's closest equivalent in the new structure is the 2GB + 2GB tethering plan (i.e.: the current top premium data plan).
So this is a good first step from AT&T, but it comes up short in the long run if it actually is effective in getting folks to reduce their usage.
Effectively the guy using 10GB of data per month is throttling everybody else's service downward since there is only so much network pipe. And regardless of what AT&T does there will always be only so much network pipe. The more you increase bandwidth the more people will consume. So they need to throttle people who are over-using it and they clearly can't give any sort of minimum guarantees on bandwidth since there are so many variables.
Howerver, the problem with this is that it can't just be the top 5% of users. It needs to be two conditions:
1) You are in the top 5% of usage
2) Your network usage is greater than X GB per month (say 4 or 5 GB)
Why? Because if all these folks in the top 5% reduce their usage next month by 10%, they will likely STILL be in the top 5%. That's how percentages work. If everybody using AT&T only used 2GB of data per month on their unlimited then the person in the top 5% would be the person who used 2.01GB.
So AT&T's current policy will eventually fail if the top users seriously start dropping their usage because they will all come down together and therefore the net effect is to ask them to drop even further the next month.
I personally think that if you are using less usage than their current premium data plan (e.g.: 4GB) that they should never subject you to this throttling. Since effectively the "unlimited" plan's closest equivalent in the new structure is the 2GB + 2GB tethering plan (i.e.: the current top premium data plan).
So this is a good first step from AT&T, but it comes up short in the long run if it actually is effective in getting folks to reduce their usage.
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No, do the math shall we.
Unlimited means you can turn your iPhone/iPad on and down load continuously with no artificial limit on a lets say 2MB connection. At the end of the a 31 day month you'll have a file on your device of a certain size.
If you throttle it, you've now put a limit on that filesize.
It's not whether you'll ever have a need for it, it's the fact that you signed up to it. They agreed to provide it.
Yes, you're confused.
This is for the people who still have the unlimited data plans. NOT for the people with the 2 GB limit.
True, but there is also fair usage into consideration. Remember, it is a service for all, not just you...
Have you read your entire contract? I mean _all_ the fine print, details of the agreement you signed, etc.?
Exactly. The contracts in the US that are unlimited always have a clause that reserves the right of the carrier/ISP to limit/throttle what they consider excessive.
That's one reason I always write unlimited as "unlimited".
Even with home internet service, where there's rarely/never a discussion of bandwidth limits, there's still language in the contract that would allow them to trim your usage (or prorate additional charges).
12GB is a lot of Data on an iPhone. I used 1.5GB once, and I used my phone a TON that month. My typically monthly usage is only about 500MB give or take. I can't imagine using 12GB on a monthly basis.
This is only for those using the unlimited plans (i.e.: the grandfathered iPhone plans). If you are paying for your data with limits and overage charges they will keep your service consistent throughout from how i understand it.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/9A5313e)
I used about 20GB last month and haven't received the message yet. I use, on average, about 12GB.
The second I get this message is when I'm switching to Sprint, assuming they get the next iPhone.
I used about 20GB last month and haven't received the message yet. I use, on average, about 12GB.
The second I get this message is when I'm switching to Sprint, assuming they get the next iPhone.
So according to you, because I can't download 1 TB a second, I'm being limited. After all, that's less than "unlimited," isn't it?
Trust me, NONE of us signed up for AT&T thinking we could get infinite data.
You're trying to argue that you ACTUALLY thought that? Most reasonable people wouldn't think that.
I got the txt this morning, im at 11 Gigs for the month thanks to the HBO GO app I recently started to use this month. Im usually at 3-4 gigs a month before I stated using the app
AT&T forced users to get an unlimited $30 data plan with their iPhone, now when people use their data unlimited, they send out txt messages saying "use wifi, you're using too much of the unlimited data you pay for". I dont think its reasonable
AT&T forced users to get an unlimited $30 data plan with their iPhone, now when people use their data unlimited, they send out txt messages saying "use wifi, you're using too much of the unlimited data you pay for". I dont think its reasonable