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To all the clowns who want "Unlimited" access without throttling, switch to the 2 GB plan and pay the overage fees. Honestly, if you want unlimited data maybe you should pay an unlimited amount. You agreed to the Terms of Service and have the option of moving to another carrier. If you don't like it, maybe you shouldn't stick with AT&T. Very, very simple.
 
I got a warning text and a warning email about three hours ago. The AT&T app indicates I'm on day 29 of my billing cycle, and that I've used 11.6 gigs. I use my (jailbroken) iPhone for my home Internet.
 
Seems completely reasonable..

He still has unlimited but ATT makes no guarantee of speed. Besides using it as his primary internet connection is not really what the carriers want people doing. I am an ATT unlimited customer and when I signed up a long time ago it does say that at any time ATT may limit or cancel the contract (small print).

10-12Gbs, come on get off your phone already and probably he's tethering it which is still insanely slow for web browsing he'd be better off getting a basic broadband package.
 
12GB per month? Streaming porn for sure...
Get off the internet, Reverend and try a social life... :rolleyes:

To be fair, I can easily use more than 12GB a month if I didn't have home Internet access (which is exactly what the article stated)... I've tracked my aggregate home usage to 1TB/2 years which is roughly 42 GB/mo. It's not that I'm downloading porn, etc-- just lots of streaming, file transfers, and remote computing. Not everyone can conform to the social archetype of just visiting Facebook and news sites... many of us have work to do.

The issue with the 5% rule is that 5% off the top is fine... but once that drops that's now 5% off the top again... where does the throttling stop?
 
This is only for those using the unlimited plans (i.e.: the grandfathered iPhone plans). If you are paying for your data with limits and overage charges they will keep your service consistent throughout from how i understand it.
Thanks.
 
Unlimited means unlimited...

Throttled access ≠ what customers are paying for.

No. If your contract stipulates unlimited access, then you are entitled to it. Arbitrarily throttling your usage violates that.


You are getting unlimited data to your device, there is no cap. You are just not getting it fast after a limit. I say they still comply. After all, where in your contracts does it say you are guaranteed those speeds?
 
12GB is a lot of Data on an iPhone. I used 1.5GB once, and I used my phone a TON that month. My typically monthly usage is only about 500MB give or take. I can't imagine using 12GB on a monthly basis.

I was very shocked to see that my average usage was close to only 120MB per month. It must be from being on WiFi often, but I was sure I used much more.
 
In the end though, if this will help me and the other normal usage users get better speeds and clear up the bandwidth....

Well, good

You know what would help normal users get better speeds?

If ATT invested more in their infrastructure instead of trying to increase profit margins per user.

They made $3.41 billion 1Q this year an increase of 39% over 2010. There is no reason they should reduce anyone's service.
 
Either you're joking or you don't understand what any of those words mean.

Please tell me you're joking.

You obviously are. You ain't very good at it either.
There is no such thing as unlimited. So in the real world it means with no artificially set limits.
If you can't see that you need limiting. The point is if you agree to provide something provide it. If you have caveats, explain them up front.
 
You are getting unlimited data to your device, there is no cap. You are just not getting it fast after a limit. I say they still comply. After all, where in your contracts does it say you are guaranteed those speeds?

Throttling a connection to an unusable speed is not what people signed up for.
 
Semantics is srs bsns.

And corporations *always* advertise things with perfect language.

And sarcasm is never used in forum posts.
 
you know what would help normal users get better speeds?

If att invested more in their infrastructure instead of trying to increase profit margins per user.

They made $3.41 billion 1q this year an increase of 39% over 2010. There is no reason they should reduce anyone's service.

Amen.
 
The point is if you agree to provide something provide it. If you have caveats, explain them up front.

After almost 5 years of using an iPhone I am quite used to the fact that when more people are in an area, my speeds get worse.

That's a technical fact. It's unavoidable and we all understand it.

All AT&T is changing here is a bit of shifting on how that works, but it's still the same as always. It's just distributed in a more fair manner.*

You're trying to get people angry about something we've been used to since 2007. It's not gonna work.

* (And who argues against "more fair," anyway? What's with that?)
 
No, do the math shall we.
Unlimited means you can turn your iPhone/iPad on and down load continuously with no artificial limit on a lets say 2MB connection. At the end of the a 31 day month you'll have a file on your device of a certain size.
If you throttle it, you've now put a limit on that filesize.

It's not whether you'll ever have a need for it, it's the fact that you signed up to it. They agreed to provide it.

No, there is no limit on the file size, it's just the speed of the data going into your device is changing. According to your method, 31 day month with no throttling still have a cap to begin with.
 
11GB+ a month for a PHONE is really high...and I understand he does not have home WIFI...but he doesn't have access to ANY WIFI?

I would imagine it's Youtube/video streaming, sending/receiving large email attachments, and maybe some iCloud stuff. Maybe he is also tethering. Who knows. I bet the average Joe uses 500MB-1GB a month WHILE ALSO using lots of WIFI spots for better bandwidth.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_5 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8L1 Safari/6533.18.5)

I remember AT&T FORCING me to get a an unlimited data plan back in the iPhone 2 days. It pissed me off having to pay an extra $30 a month so I ran up data usage like crazy to piss off AT&T.
 
You know what would help normal users get better speeds?

If ATT invested more in their infrastructure instead of trying to increase profit margins per user.

They made $3.41 billion 1Q this year an increase of 39% over 2010. There is no reason they should reduce anyone's service.

Are you saying they have not been investing in infrastructure ?

That simply is not true.

If you think I'm wrong go ahead and provide some figures
 
You are getting unlimited data to your device, there is no cap. You are just not getting it fast after a limit. I say they still comply. After all, where in your contracts does it say you are guaranteed those speeds?

What is it with you guys? If you have a connection with out limit you could download a file size that is a product of the data rate and the length of download time.
If they limit your connection to that which would see you downloading at a rate that would produce a 1MB file on your desktop after five seconds, (where it might normally take 2 seconds). This means that as a daily quota you can d'load 17.28GB as opposed to 43.2GB, there is now therefore an artificial limit. Your connection is not unlimited as advertised.
QED.
 
I have unlimited. I'm 18 days into my cycle and have used 4.2Gb so far. How? I have a bit of a commute (not as much as I did since I changed jobs) so I listen to podcasts via Instacast which allows me to subscribe to podcasts from the phone. It also downloads podcasts regardless of size over 3g. If I'm paying for unlimited then I really don't have to think about making this decision to download podcasts over 3g.

I also sometimes listen to Pandora and TWiT or play Netflix on the car entertainment system over 3g. I'm not actively going out trying to use as much as I can. I feel that having unlimited means I shouldn't have to think about whether I should or shouldn't use my 3g connection.
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 5_0 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/534.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/9A5313e)

I used about 20GB last month and haven't received the message yet. I use, on average, about 12GB.

The second I get this message is when I'm switching to Sprint, assuming they get the next iPhone.
See ya! Don't let the door hit you in the ass...
 
Unlimited: Not limited or restricted in terms of number, quantity, or extent

All that matters is how the contract is worded. I bet 99.9% of people don't read it. If the contract caveats unlimited in such a way that allows throttling then that is what they can do. I haven't read an AT&T contract (not even from the US) but I bet there is a clause in there that allows for network management.

You can look through some T&Cs here- http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/articles-resources/wireless-terms.jsp
 
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