AT&T Bringing $180/Month 5-Gigabit Internet to 70 Cities

[austintg]

I don't understand this mindset. Its like saying "Why pave the roads, cars can't go faster than 30 mph anyway" back before roads were paved. Something will always be a bottle neck.

What's the point of these? No WiFi can transport this kind of data. And who needs this for workstation-at-home work?

I work from home, my home and work computers are all hard wired in. I would love a 5Gbps connection. Why would you limit yourself or companies? Why not push limits, learn, grow, ask for and do the impossible? Life would be so boring with your mindset.

 

[gaximus]

I work from home, my home and work computers are all hard wired in. I would love a 5Gbps connection. Why would you limit yourself or companies? Why not push limits, learn, grow, ask for and do the impossible? Life would be so boring with your mindset.

That's what my post was saying, not sure if you are agreeing with it, or if it wasn't clear?

 

[GBaughma]

All of you folks on DSL should consider signing up for Starlink. It’s not even close to Gb speed, and also not symmetrical, but is a good 200+ Gbps DL for a reasonable $99 (when you can get it). I’m sure it will get faster once more of the satellites have lasers.

Yeah... I pre-paid over a year ago... haven't seen anything yet.

 

[robertmorris2]

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This is with VPN

 

[MacBH928]

Sure, ask away. If it’s Ethernet or fiber I’ve done it.

I still remember the sounds our dial up modem made so I fully understand your point of the pain having slow Internet.

Thanks! well its more on the software side of things, I was just wondering if I connect to a VPN server on another continent , do I go throw the usually internet hopping between servers or do I get a direct connection to that server?

 

[mtneer]

your country is a fraction of the size, infrastructure costs are much more in the US due to the shear size of deployments and maintenance needed.

Does any US carrier provide coverage over an area larger than a midsize European country?? Large parts of the US are just connectivity deserts once you leave the exurbs of major cities. So yeah net-net I would be surprised if their “actual” coverage areas was any different.

 

[827538]

Thanks! well its more on the software side of things, I was just wondering if I connect to a VPN server on another continent , do I go throw the usually internet hopping between servers or do I get a direct connection to that server?

I'm not sure what you mean?

You should have a direct connection but it will obviously be sent through a number of routers in order to get there. I use a couple of VPN's to connect to servers and I'm often in the US and Europe and it works the same regardless of what continent I'm on.

You can use Tracert command to see what route the packets are taking.

 

[MacBH928]

I'm not sure what you mean?

You should have a direct connection but it will obviously be sent through a number of routers in order to get there. I use a couple of VPN's to connect to servers and I'm often in the US and Europe and it works the same regardless of what continent I'm on.

You can use Tracert command to see what route the packets are taking.

yes sorry, I worded wrong. Traceroute is what I am looking for. I get some results but then I get infinite *** it never ends. Whats going on here? any idea? is there like a traceroute anaylser app to tell the quality of the routes?

 

[mskx4]

Really though? I mean, Sweden is usually touted as broadband-cheap, but 1GBit costs around $60/month. $12 for 10GBit seems unusally cheap.

in Italy 16 € for a 5 Gbps

 

[bollman]

Hm, Telecom Italia charges €30 for 1GBit, but I guess there are cheaper alternatives.

 

[827538]

yes sorry, I worded wrong. Traceroute is what I am looking for. I get some results but then I get infinite *** it never ends. Whats going on here? any idea? is there like a traceroute anaylser app to tell the quality of the routes?

I’m not sure you can tell much beyond ping and packet loss but that’s all you should need. I’m not sure why it would be infinite, usually it only does as many hops as required to get there. Wish I could be of more help. Could be weird things going on with the VPN.

 

[austintg]

That's what my post was saying, not sure if you are agreeing with it, or if it wasn't clear?

Somehow I had your post quoted alongside the post I was actually replying to, yes I’m agreeing!

 

[underattack]

The real cost is not rural areas. They just do not get services. The problem is that different carriers have to maintain their own networks. Kind of like having two water-supply networks, or different airports for different airlines. The only real solution is one entity running the network, and staying out of the content business allowing other companies to use the wires to provide service. Kind of what the phone network was a bit like in the old days of the internet where you could pick whatever dialup (or later to some extent DSL) provider you wanted to use. But Telcos are now trying to use the wire they have running into your house to force as many additional services and content down your pipe as they can. Comunity-run networks are pretty much the only way to make that work (e.g. the famous example of Chatanooga in the US). But in many states, telcos paid legislators dearly to enact laws prohibiting this model.

 

[GBaughma]

They nickle and dime you over everything

Cox High Speed Internet even has a addon they charge for lower latency/ping in games. Can you believe that?

That's what happens when they silent stamp out Net Neutrality.
Charging you a surcharge for lower latency would have been illegal under Net Neutrality.

 

[ulkeshkosh]

ITT: Many people who know what they're talking about, and many others who are talking so far out of their butt it's humorous.

The simple truth is this: varying people have varying wants and needs. Just because you can't see reason to have higher bandwidth at your house does not at all make it meaningless for someone else. Stop living in this bubble that if it doesn't affect you it's not important.

And good lord, stop saying things like "there's a 250mbps limit on webservers" or any other asinine statement. The only limits to bandwidth are governed by physics and relative infrastructure, not some arbitrary numbers you think you know. If you're going to be constructive in a thread like this, at least have your facts straight.

 

[GBaughma]

Thanks! well its more on the software side of things, I was just wondering if I connect to a VPN server on another continent , do I go throw the usually internet hopping between servers or do I get a direct connection to that server?

Your VPN connection still has to go through whatever routers it needs to go through to get to the other end. Nothing will change that. Even when you are connected to the VPN, the traffic is still hopping from router to router to get there, although the traffic is then (in theory) encrypted so those packets still travelling over the open internet cannot be intercepted and decoded.

A VPN doesn't really make the hops shorter; a VPN just makes the rest of the world think that you're connecting from the network that you have the VPN connection with.

 

[danielsutton]

Well, some of them, any way.
Most don't, but those that do, really do.


And everyone saying "but wifi6e..." "but wifi 7..." WiFi NEVER hits the published speeds because the published capabilities only apply under ideal conditions AND only when the payload is being transferred. The thing is ideal conditions are rarely achieved in the real world AND a significant % of the time WiFi is occupied with things other than transferring the payload, like waiting to avoid collisions, recovering from collisions, transferring WiFi headers, waiting for acknowledgements, giving other stations a chance to transmit (whether they need it or not). Actual speeds are, at best ~1/2 published capabilities.

Wi-Fi speeds are not guaranteed, and you are right, in the real world, it is very unlikely that maximum speeds will be reached. This extra speed is best used when devices are physically wired to the network with Ethernet cables. Wi-Fi is good for mobile devices and need to be taken from place to place. So wire everything that can be wired, and leave Wi-Fi for devices that cannot be easily wired.

 

[MacBH928]

Your VPN connection still has to go through whatever routers it needs to go through to get to the other end. Nothing will change that. Even when you are connected to the VPN, the traffic is still hopping from router to router to get there, although the traffic is then (in theory) encrypted so those packets still travelling over the open internet cannot be intercepted and decoded.

A VPN doesn't really make the hops shorter; a VPN just makes the rest of the world think that you're connecting from the network that you have the VPN connection with.

I disagree.

1) doing traceroute shows a different path

2) I connect to a plex server very far away from me. When I do not use VPN it keeps disrubting, while I use VPN its smooth. How is this even possible without the VPN having a different route?

 

[gerlitzappel]

Odd. I have the same plan in Chicago and its $100/mo. You sure that's not a promo?

my promo rate expired after the first year, back then it was $40

 

[GBaughma]

I disagree.

1) doing traceroute shows a different path

2) I connect to a plex server very far away from me. When I do not use VPN it keeps disrubting, while I use VPN its smooth. How is this even possible without the VPN having a different route?

Well, you can disagree all you wish, doesn't change the fact of how VPN works.

 

[MacBH928]

Well, you can disagree all you wish, doesn't change the fact of how VPN works.

am just saying, I do get a more stable connection via VPN

 

[Frodriguezv]

What a difference.

In Europe, I pay $12 per month for 10 Gbps.

BS!! what country and service provider? France Sweden and Lichtenstein (fastest average speed country in Europe) don't offer over 1Gig and not symmetrical. Those services are around 45-50 euro

 

[Frodriguezv]

For a family of 4 or 6, does it make sense?. What do you do to justify such bandwidth at home?. Is it symmetrical? So the video conferences can be streamed in glorious 720 from my Mac camera?.

Both wife and I work from home. Constant video conferencing with HD cameras. over 20 devices connected using 4K or HD streaming. Two kids in college with classes and video conferences all the time. Ours is 1G symmetrical. Never gives us any problems. Xfinity had a data cap so it didn't work for us and the local provider had too many issues with connectivity.

 

[Frodriguezv]

56 Wi-Fi devices would saturate most Wi-Fi routers, not at the bandwidth level but at the latency level. For this reason, I try to avoid Wi-Fi smart home devices when alternatives exist (e.g., bridge-based solutions).

5Ghz wifi can support 1300Mbps. 2.4Ghz can support 400 or 600 Mbps all depending on the the wireless standard. I work from home so I have the latest and fastest can not afford video buffering for anyone in the house.

 

[Frodriguezv]

I have AT&T's 300 Mbps fiber, downgraded after trying 1 Gbps for a couple of months. My family of couldn't stress the network to a point where we would benefit from 1 Gbps.

That isn't to say others wouldn't benefit, but before spending more money, one should understand what their true needs are. If everyone is on Wi-Fi, you probably can't get much faster than 700 Mbps even with the best Wi-Fi router.

It is not so much the speed itself but the bandwidth or being able to have higher speeds in many devices simultaneoulsy or not having buffering or drops when using bandwidth intensive applications