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LMAO.... this is what is available in my area.... Ill stick with the Cox Gigablast... View attachment 1948776
I had to look this up… apparently there really is an ISP called “Cox”. Makes you wonder what other names they considered before they said, “yep, this is who we want to be”.

Poor naming aside, their ”Gigablast” doesn’t look like much of a blast at all… at $99 it’s almost double AT&T for the same download speed, but with a paltry 35Mbps upload AND a monthly data limit?


Who would subscribe to this?! Sounds like “Cox” is giving one to their customers…
 
I had to look this up… apparently there really is an ISP called “Cox”. Makes you wonder what other names they considered before they said, “yep, this is who we want to be”.

Poor naming aside, their ”Gigablast” doesn’t look like much of a blast at all… at $99 it’s almost double AT&T for the same download speed, but with a paltry 35Mbps upload AND a monthly data limit?

Sounds like “Cox” has their customers bent over…

Yes Cox High Speed Internet. We use to have them in our old house. It was the only High Speed Internet ISP around. Thank god we moved and we kicked them to the curb Cox High Speed Internet ISP. I never felt so good in my life.

They nickle and dime you over everything

Cox High Speed Internet even has a addon they charge for lower latency/ping in games. Can you believe that?

I already know there will be no replies.
 
For a family of 4 or 6, does it make sense?. What do you do to justify such bandwidth at home?. Is it symmetrical? So the video conferences can be streamed in glorious 720 from my Mac camera?.
A lot of people just check the box for the fastest. Do they need it? No. Can they tell the difference? No. Do they care? Nope.
 
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A lot of people just check the box for the fastest. Do they need it? No. Can they tell the difference? No. Do they care? Nope.

Wrong. If you have 7 to 10 people in your household all streaming 4k you can tell the difference.
 
That's great, but the issue now (in my opinion!) of any home Internet service over 250 mbps download speed is the limit of the web server systems. No wonder Amazon Web Services makes a lot of money hosting the likes of Twitter, parts of Apple's online services, and several others.

I get 105 to 115 MB/sec all day everyday.
 
Meanwhile, AT&T can only offer me 12 megabit internet. Not that I'd use them anyway, but they're a sad joke here.

So I'm stuck with Comcrap until the city gets their new municipal gigabit fiber up and running.
 
Meanwhile out here in a rural corner of NW England I get 20mbit down if I'm lucky and about 4mbit up, for the equivalent of about $50 a month. Half my country has cable (which offers upto 200mbit I believe) but it stops within half a mile of my home in any direction. Crazy the prices we are all paying for radically different services. Also crazy the radical differences in what consumers in different parts of the globe consider acceptable. I can only dream about the speeds some people here are complaining are slow..
 
That's great, but the issue now (in my opinion!) of any home Internet service over 250 mbps download speed is the limit of the web server systems. No wonder Amazon Web Services makes a lot of money hosting the likes of Twitter, parts of Apple's online services, and several others.
250 Mbps eh?

Seriously though, this is not how the internet works.
 
Well I'm not happy. I had to change ISP, and while the new ISP charges less (8$/month for 1Gbit/s up and down) I now have roughly 20ms minimum latency to most sites around here, vs just over 2ms.
Downgrade.
Moral for those who are just getting into fiber services - latencies, peering, IPv6, CGNAT and a number of other aspects of the service matter. Inform yourself beyond nominal speeds and price, and if it is too technical, either learn or ask someone who has better insight.
 
Well I'm not happy. I had to change ISP, and while the new ISP charges less (8$/month for 1Gbit/s up and down) I now have roughly 20ms minimum latency to most sites around here, vs just over 2ms.
Downgrade.
Moral for those who are just getting into fiber services - latencies, peering, IPv6, CGNAT and a number of other aspects of the service matter. Inform yourself beyond nominal speeds and price, and if it is too technical, either learn or ask someone who has better insight.

That sucks. Sometimes you can't prevent this.
 
Actually, in my opinion once you reach the 250 megabit/second download threshold, going beyond that is not that useful unless you stream truly high-definition videos like the new IMAX Enhanced streaming format or do really serious online gaming. 720p/1080p streaming videos from most streaming services usually use under 10 megabits/second data rates. As such (getting back on topic!), the 5 gigabit speed Internet is probably best suited for online gamers who really need the fastest access.
 
Actually, in my opinion once you reach the 250 megabit/second download threshold, going beyond that is not that useful unless you stream truly high-definition videos like the new IMAX Enhanced streaming format or do really serious online gaming. 720p/1080p streaming videos from most streaming services usually use under 10 megabits/second data rates. As such (getting back on topic!), the 5 gigabit speed Internet is probably best suited for online gamers who really need the fastest access.

Online gamers do not use download speed that much. Latency and ping is more important.

It only comes into play when downloading a really large game.
 
Exactly. Wifi sucks for gaming.
Uhm. I used to have 2 ms ping to nearby test servers using wired connection. Using my WiFi (with phones/pads) I had 4ms. The added latency of my WiFi was imperceptible.

Now I have 20 ms wired to the same servers. All WiFi is not created equal, (and that’s a problem!) Old standards and/or problematic environments can cause really bad performance and not necessarily in a consistent manner.

{Context for those who don’t understand why latency matters. People who play online competitive games often use 120Hz (or higher) refresh rate monitors to cut display latency from 16.6 to 8.3 ms, and it makes a demonstrable difference, at least to reasonably skilled players. Adding 20ms latency is really…not good.}
 
Actually, in my opinion once you reach the 250 megabit/second download threshold, going beyond that is not that useful unless you stream truly high-definition videos like the new IMAX Enhanced streaming format or do really serious online gaming.
You originally stated that 250 is some sort of arbitrary limit of "web server systems" which is what I was referring to. 250 Mbps is in no way the limit of anything related to the web itself. Its such a fantastically arbitrary number . 250 Mbps, no more no less. Take it or leave it haha.

Right now I am downloading the newest macOS Montery 12.2 at approx 55.9 Megabytes per second which translates to 447.2 Mbps. Apple is more than likely using Cloudflare or some other CDN but regardless of the path, it is able to take advantage of those speeds.
 


AT&T today announced the launch of upgraded AT&T Fiber plans, which support speeds of up to 5 Gigabits for some customers. There are two separate plans, one "2 GIG" plan and one "5 GIG" plan, available to new and existing AT&T Fiber subscribers.

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According to AT&T, the new plans are available to nearly 5.2 million customers across 70 metro areas including Los Angeles, Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles, Raleigh, Miami, and Dallas, with a full list available on AT&T's website.

AT&T Fiber 2 GIG is priced at $110 per month plus taxes, while the highest-speed AT&T Fiber 5 GIG plan is priced at $180 per month plus taxes.

AT&T is enacting a new "straightforward pricing" policy, which means there are no data limits, no equipment fees, no annual contract, and no "deals" that will see prices increase at 12 months. These high-end plans include AT&T ActiveArmor internet security, "next-gen WiFi support," and HBO Max access.

With the launch of these new multi-gigabit internet plans, AT&T is calling itself the "fastest major internet provider." AT&T intends to continue to expand its faster connection speeds to additional customers, with plans to cover 30 million customer locations by the end of 2025.

Article Link: AT&T Bringing $180/Month 5-Gigabit Internet to 70 Cities
If 2Gb is going to be $110 and 5GB is going to be $180, how about we drop the price of 1GB to about $60? I currently have had AT&T 1GB Fiber for the last two years, at the introductory price of $59.99, but it went up after a year to $80+, and I had to call and talk them into lowering it back down to $60. Hate playing that game, but will keep doing it if I have to.
 
If 2Gb is going to be $110 and 5GB is going to be $180, how about we drop the price of 1GB to about $60? I currently have had AT&T 1GB Fiber for the last two years, at the introductory price of $59.99, but it went up after a year to $80+, and I had to call and talk them into lowering it back down to $60. Hate playing that game, but will keep doing it if I have to.

We pay $40 a month for AT&T 1GB Fiber for as long as we remember.
 
ITT: people asking why anybody needs these speeds and people in second/third world countries saying they only pay a nickel for these speeds.

If these speeds cost only a nickel for us here in the third world, it begs the questions:

1. Is the United States really as advanced as we imagine?

2. Am I still living in the third world, or has something perhaps shifted?
 
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I agree but $300/m is just $25 a month and for internet its more than worth it, but only if you use it. Between 2 people and a child, yeah maybe the $300 is more worth it for you.

Hey if you know a thing or two about networking do you mind if I ask you a few questions out of topic?



I find this comment ironically funny and hurtful at the same time, as someone who used to wait for video to load on youtube. In fact I lived in a time where it took like 40min to download an mp3 song.
Sure, ask away. If it’s Ethernet or fiber I’ve done it.

I still remember the sounds our dial up modem made so I fully understand your point of the pain having slow Internet.
 
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I just talked to ATT and they are not offering a free extender with an upgrade to the 2GB plan. Wondering how you got that?
the extender is $7 a month. failed to mention that. what is great with the 2gb also is if you run a VPN, like I do, the speeds don't seem to be affected that much.
 
Edit: Ignore my post, I was thinking about my cell plan

I haven't actually checked, but I have my doubts about "no data limits".

Where I live I have an "Unlimited" plan, which all the providers offer. It's "unlimited", but after [x]GB, they throttle you down to 512kbps.
I have the home ATT unlimited 1Gbps. It is in fact, unlimited.
 
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