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I really don’t understand people bitching about normal consumers having this high speed service in their homes. Who said people have to “need” it. Maybe they want it and can afford it.
I am complaining because these articles are used by the Telcos as Marketing Material. I have 100Mbps DSL, Bell Canada started work to deploy fibre to my building last summer and then just stopped. They will continue to try deceive the broader public that they are doing good. Far more people would be better served by having all these carriers across the world deploy fibre to more places rather than just expanding the bandwidth of those that are already on fiber.
 
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Population density is probably a misleading statistic. A country can have a lower population density while at the same time each person lives closer to more people, on average.
Like Canada is huge, but 70% of their population lives south of the 49th Parallel, the line that forms the border with the US in the west.
And we (in Canada) have the same issue that the US does when it comes to high speed broadband. There are wide swaths of land in US and Canada which are for the sake of simplicity unpopulated. If you limited the conversation to only populated centers with a specific high population density the number still suck. Fibre to the hope should be a given right. The only way that it will ever happen is with infrastructure that is built en mass and then leased by everyone.
 
I really don’t understand people bitching about normal consumers having this high speed service in their homes. Who said people have to “need” it. Maybe they want it and can afford it.
Agreed 1000%. People acting like 5 Gig will move to their neighborhood and start slashing tires. Who cares about what people "need". South Korea has had 10 Gig Internet service for years! For dirt cheap. We're behind. More bandwidth is never an issue. Hey ATT, you got 40 Gig pipes back there? Heck yeah, I'll take one. It's like making fun of supercar owners for their car's top speed on surface streets and then completely ignoring that they can also be used at the track.
 
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Yea its apples to...whatever fruit they predominantly eat in sweden. US is 3rd in population but 185th in population density. It isn't just the low density, its the low density paired with the high number.
A high number of customers means proportionally high revenue.

The excuse that is often brought up is that the providers need to charge high prices because they have to cover rural areas where the cost per customer is higher. But that is the same in other relatively sparsely populated countries like Sweden, which for some reason still have far lower prices.

The big cable companies should be legally obligated to share their last-mile infrastructure with competitors (with compensation of course), so the local monopolies can be broken up.
 
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I generally agree with your point that this is bandwidth very few homes will need, but I do take exception to the wifi comment. I have 25 wired devices in my house, they're the ones I want really good connectivity for. I have an additional 56 wireless devices online at the moment. In my house. It would be nice to have bandwidth. But like many, I had gig service and actually downgraded because I simply wasn't saturating it. It is unlikely anyone will need 2 or 5, but I am thrilled it is coming as it will ultimately make everything better.
25 wired devices that need good connectivity! Are you running a server farm?
 
Agreed 1000%. People acting like 5 Gig will move to their neighborhood and start slashing tires. Who cares about what people "need". South Korea has had 10 Gig Internet service for years! For dirt cheap. We're behind. More bandwidth is never an issue. Hey ATT, you got 40 Gig pipes back there? Heck yeah, I'll take one. It's like making fun of supercar owners for their car's top speed on surface streets and then completely ignoring that they can also be used at the track.
I think the frustration is more around why they're doing this while a lot of places barely get 2015-era internet speeds. If internet was good enough throughout the US already, I bet you'd see fewer complaints about big upgrades like this.
 
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ATT is a joke in Atlanta.
Doesn't even offer the 1g fiber in the city.
Just the old fiber to the area, copper to the homes garbage, their fastest rate here.
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I think the frustration is more around why they're doing this while a lot of places barely get 2015-era internet speeds. If internet was good enough throughout the US already, I bet you'd see fewer complaints about big upgrades like this.
Ok, use me as an example. ATT DSL in my area maxes out at a blazing 50 Mbps for the eyewatering price of $55.00 a month. I will more than likely never see ATT fiber to my home. Am I jealous of those who can get the new speeds? Absolutely. Will I kick , scream, and trash talk the fiber rollout because I am only offered an inferior product for more dollars? Nah. What's the point? If ATT doesn't want to give me fiber then it is what it is. Progress will roll on elsewhere.
 
ATT is a joke in Atlanta.
Doesn't even offer the 1g fiber in the city.
Just the old fiber to the area, copper to the homes garbage, their fastest rate here.
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ATT is a joke in Atlanta.
Doesn't even offer the 1g fiber in the city.
Just the old fiber to the area, copper to the homes garbage, their fastest rate here.
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I only get 5 Mbps service in my area also for $55 , but most around me have access to gig fiber - go figure
 
They include my city in that list, but where I live it's just UVerse with data-caps and trash speeds. I'm stuck with Spectrum and their 10mbps upload. Shrug.
 
What a difference.

In Europe, I pay $12 per month for 10 Gbps.
Europe us quite big would you mind barriwing this down to a single coutry, I can tell you here in Norway (which kadt I checked was deffenetly a European country and afaik this has not changed) you cant even get a 1 Gbps connection at that price. No this is nit souer grapes in my part since I don'T kniw the wountry in question I cant say wearher $12/mn is a lot or not ( need ti compare in rekation to median household income etc)
 
What's the point of these? No WiFi can transport this kind of data. And who needs this for workstation-at-home work?

because we have already paid for all the telecom companies to bring our internet infrastructure out of the stone age, and they've been sitting on that money for decades.

and just because *you* cannot just research briefly why people would find use out of this, does not mean there's any warrant to the question "hurrrr what's this even for!?!?"

our internet infrastructure is so quickly becoming like our rail lines. archaic and surpassed by the developed countries of the world.

edit: not to mention, i have a router that could absolutely capitalize on a 5Gbit service wirelessly. so i dont know what you're on about with "no wifi can transport this"

uhhh maybe for people...who...dont...read.
 
There are people in the audio/video/filmmaking fields who work with multi-gigabit files and until recently were not able to work from home due to poor connection speeds. Now with multi-gigabit symmetrical upload/download speeds, working from home is now possible. This also helps for people like me who save all of their files to the cloud and need to often upload and download things quickly, as well as software downloads and installations.

The Internet has gone from being a luxury to being a utility and having fast access is necessary for a growing number of people.
 
Jacksonville, FL is on the list. But do not get your hopes up. They stopped offering ANY type of internet access to a good part of downtown here in Jacksonville (pretty much splitting the market with Comcast on a block-by-block level).
 
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What a difference.

In Europe, I pay $12 per month for 10 Gbps.
What country? Keep in mind most European countries are smaller than most of our states. Much cheaper to wire up a country the size of Delaware vs. California.
 
Wow... What i just saw?? So AT&T charge for its 300MBPS $55 PLUS taxes? So my fiber 200/200 in greece is cheaper than americas. (€26 included taxes)
Nice

Poland, currently $16 for 400/400Mbit (it goes slightly above) without monthly cap in quite rural area. I could get 800/800Mbit for $25.

your country is a fraction of the size, infrastructure costs are much more in the US due to the shear size of deployments and maintenance needed.

I see alot of folks from other countries surprised by our internet costs. A major part of that, besides the joys of capitalism, is the size of our country, more specifically, the expanses of our country in which there are very few people. It is more expensive to distribute internet here than in European countries that are more densely populated.

It’s a bit more expensive to try and cover 4 million square miles. I’m sure that has at least something to do with it.

Those comments misses one thing - while the USA is BIG not every square meter is populated (more so - there are a lot of areas where noone lives). What's more - big problem with the US is awful urban sprawl, which causes issues not only with internet connectivity but also with public transport. It's not surprising that it's easier to connect more densely populated areas.
 
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Expensive, but would be cool to be able to stream uncompressed (4K blu-ray quality) movies with the best audio/visuals. As is, I'm barely taking advantage of a single Gigabit.
You don't need Gbps for 4k BD that tops out at 144Mbps (plus any proticol overhead), and if you talk about 4h raw (ie uncompressed, that is way above 1Gbps let me run some numbers (3840*2160* 30(10 bit per colorchannel rgb)*24)/1000000000=5.97Gbs and thst is without sound and any protocol overhead. Or did you mean a stream using a lossless codec?
 
I've worked from home for 21 1/2 years. I pay around $140 to Cox for 500/30 with no alternatives where we live. I have zero need for 2 - 5Gb but I would be thrilled to pay $110 for 2Gb to get away from Cox who keeps raising prices almost annually.
I am also being gouged by Cox with no other fiber alternative. $180 for unlimited 1000/40. Hopefully, will be moving soon (5 min drive) where ATT is available and I can get 1000/1000 for $60.

There needs to be some kind of action taken against these companies who have nearly exclusive rights and take advantage of the residents.
 
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AT&T today announced the launch of upgraded AT&T Fiber plans, which support speeds of up to 5 Gigabits for some customers. There are two separate plans, one "2 GIG" plan and one "5 GIG" plan, available to new and existing AT&T Fiber subscribers.

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According to AT&T, the new plans are available to nearly 5.2 million customers across 70 metro areas including Los Angeles, Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco, San Diego, Los Angeles, Raleigh, Miami, and Dallas, with a full list available on AT&T's website.

AT&T Fiber 2 GIG is priced at $110 per month plus taxes, while the highest-speed AT&T Fiber 5 GIG plan is priced at $180 per month plus taxes.

AT&T is enacting a new "straightforward pricing" policy, which means there are no data limits, no equipment fees, no annual contract, and no "deals" that will see prices increase at 12 months. These high-end plans include AT&T ActiveArmor internet security, "next-gen WiFi support," and HBO Max access.

With the launch of these new multi-gigabit internet plans, AT&T is calling itself the "fastest major internet provider." AT&T intends to continue to expand its faster connection speeds to additional customers, with plans to cover 30 million customer locations by the end of 2025.

Article Link: AT&T Bringing $180/Month 5-Gigabit Internet to 70 Cities
What is the contention ratio? I'm paying £47/month for 1.5Gbs which is probably fast enough for the moment.
 
I am also being gouged by Cox with no other fiber alternative. $180 for unlimited 1000/40. Hopefully, will be moving soon (5 min drive) where ATT is available and I can get 1000/1000 for $60.

There needs to be some kind of action taken against these companies who have nearly exclusive rights and take advantage of the residents.
Yeah it's called bring in the competition. That's the action. I'm paying Comcast $136 for unlimited 1000/40. AT&T is running fiber just this week. Within a few more weeks, I'll be able to get unlimited 1000/1000 + HBO Max for $80. As soon as that's possible, I will.
 
interesting how speed and price options change depending on location. We have had ATT Gigabit for almost 2 years now, it's been extremely reliable, and I feel it's very competitively priced compared to Xfinity/Comcast where I live. I've gotten over 500 up and down on my iPhone, up to around 750 on a hard line. It's $70 with taxes and includes HBO Max. I live in the West Palm Beach, Florida market.

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