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AT&T Bringing $180/Month 5-Gigabit Internet to 70 Cities

Hey AT&T, quit lying, stick with borrowing billions to fund your 5G C-band rollout (except at airports) and creating OANN.

San Francisco and AT&T 5 Gig Fiber? LIES.

With friends & acquaintences from Treasure Island to Ocean Beach, I don’t know a single person in SF that can get AT&T Fiber installed at home.

Hell, I probably have a better chance of getting Wave, Sonic, or Monkeybrains installed at home in addition to my 1.2 gig Comcast service.

Also, I think charging 20x more per megabit on the 50mb Plan vs your advertised 2 GB plan per Mb is worthy of filing a CPUC complaint.

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(I indeed have the AT&T as a backup.)

dblissmn said:
I'm in a dense Chicago lakefront neighborhood, and AT&T long ago gave up serving the neighborhood; they max out at 1.5 megabits. It's Comcast xfinity, with horrible billing policies and extremely variable service and outages galore, or else T-Mobile home wireless with the latency issues that come with trying to multiplex 4G and 5G channels.
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I had RCN when I lived in Edgewater, Chicago, which was a HOA decision. They were truly fantastic, and I’m sad that I can’t get them here.

I know that some buildings have both Comcast and RCN available to them. I would suggest it over Comcast any day; but it’s building by building.
 
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Try living in an ATT monopoly area, we can't get cable or fiber internet from ATT. We're stuck with dialup internet. There are other internet (mom & pop type) provider who offer High speed but they can cross the road to provide service due to ATT monopoly of the area.
 
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Against the odd formatted post from r8ders2k
Would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath in Sunnyvale, CA. Comcast/Xfinity is the dominant provider and AT&T Fiber isn't an option.
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Sunnyvale, CA has been having some streets dug up for Verizon 5G Fiber.
This looks like they will be marketing 5G Home soon. I was wondering about all the digging in the streets in that city and saw this article.
www.datamation.com

Verizon and Google Cloud Partnering on 5G Mobile Edge Computing | Datamation

Verizon and Google Cloud are working together to “bring the power of the cloud” closer to devices at the edge of Verizon's network:
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BASKING RIDGE, N.J. and SUNNYVALE, Calif. — Verizon and Google Cloud are working together to “bring the power of the cloud” closer to devices at the edge of Verizon’s network.
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www.cnet.com

Verizon's home internet service will reach 20 million thanks to big 5G upgrade

Verizon's fixed-mobile service uses a combination of 4G LTE and 5G, and will target the largest markets outside of its Fios territory.
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Verizon's expansion of its 5G network on Jan. 19 won't just increase speeds on the go. The carrier has also been increasing its coverage for home internet, and in two weeks, coverage will extend to nearly 20 million customers, Chief Technology Officer Kyle Malady said in an interview on Tuesday.

The update is an increase from the carrier's previously stated plans to offer home internet over 4G LTE or millimeter-wave 5G to 15 million customers by the end of 2021. When connected to 5G Home, what Verizon calls its home internet service that is available over 5G, the carrier says that people can expect "typical" download speeds around 300 Mbps and peaks up to 1 gigabit per second. These are comparable to the speeds offered by the wired fiber-optic Verizon Fios service.
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See Verizon link for info.
 
sdhalpern said:
Using 1 gig fiber from Sonic here in San Francisco and quite happy with the reliability, performance, and $60/month price. Sonic is significantly cheaper than ATT so will not be switching.

1 gig fiber is more than enough for 99% (closer to 100%) of homes. Paying for anything beyond that is akin to throwing your money away.
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I just had their 10Gbps service installed in my area at $40/mo for the first year then it goes up to $50/mo but I have been incredibly happy. Apparently they are going to be going back around and upgrading all their 1Gbps markets as well over time.
 
Even if I get 5Gbps connection, will servers like Apple and Steam allow me to download at that speed or will they cap me off at 200mbps?

nutmac said:
I have AT&T's 300 Mbps fiber, downgraded after trying 1 Gbps for a couple of months. My family of couldn't stress the network to a point where we would benefit from 1 Gbps.

That isn't to say others wouldn't benefit, but before spending more money, one should understand what their true needs are. If everyone is on Wi-Fi, you probably can't get much faster than 700 Mbps even with the best Wi-Fi router.
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If my calculations are right, you will need 25 TVs streaming 4K video together to saturate the connection 😁

If servers allow it, with now days crazy 100GB game size , downloading them over 300mbps will be over 44min period but using 1Gbps will be done in around 14 min so there is 30min save time there. Assuming 1 user in the house that is, if more users the download will much lengthier.

Not a deal breaker but if you deal in a huge file sizes (game, video) downloading and uploading it will make a lot of difference.


a m u n said:
What a difference.

In Europe, I pay $12 per month for 10 Gbps.
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where in europe? I am seeing 1Gbps in UK for $41
 
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All of you folks on DSL should consider signing up for Starlink. It’s not even close to Gb speed, and also not symmetrical, but is a good 200+ Gbps DL for a reasonable $99 (when you can get it). I’m sure it will get faster once more of the satellites have lasers.
 
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Good to see greater than 1Gb speeds. But they have really upped their pricing, +$10 per plan and that's factoring in modem rental. If anything prices should be decreasing in the 300Mb-1Gb range, not increasing.

US ISP's doing their usual then. I guess AT&T need the cash to cover for the car crash that was buying DirectTV.
 
MacBH928 said:
Even if I get 5Gbps connection, will servers like Apple and Steam allow me to download at that speed or will they cap me off at 200mbps?



If my calculations are right, you will need 25 TVs streaming 4K video together to saturate the connection ?

If servers allow it, with now days crazy 100GB game size , downloading them over 300mbps will be over 44min period but using 1Gbps will be done in around 14 min so there is 30min save time there. Assuming 1 user in the house that is, if more users the download will much lengthier.

Not a deal breaker but if you deal in a huge file sizes (game, video) downloading and uploading it will make a lot of difference.




where in europe? I am seeing 1Gbps in UK for $41
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I'm someone who has done a lot of networking related engineering and used dedicated lines from 25Gb/s to 100Gb/s, and installed OS2 fiber and used QSFP28 transceivers etc. Personally I'm in the same boat, I'm thinking of downgrading from 1Gb as while it's great for the occasional Steam game, I'm never using it.

200Mb-300Mb symmetrical (very important) is all I need for 4K HDR streaming, gaming, downloads. In the future I might go back to 1Gb or more but what's the point in paying extra for something I never use? Waiting a couple extra minutes to download a Steam game occasionally isn't worth the extra $300/yr. It's just my wife and I using the internet and even if we are both watching 4K HDR streams, as well as our child watching Disney+, and we are web browsing and gaming, that's still less than 200Mb of bandwidth. I think good upload speeds are starting to become more and more important due to cloud storage, home security cameras etc.

Same thing happened with my phone plan. I was only using a couple GB's of data a month, maybe 10GB at the extreme end as 98% of my usage is over WiFi.
 
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Octavius8 said:
For a family of 4 or 6, does it make sense?. What do you do to justify such bandwidth at home?. Is it symmetrical? So the video conferences can be streamed in glorious 720 from my Mac camera?.
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Speeds are symmetrical.

Even 1080P Zoom/Facetime doesn't require much bandwidth. A 4K HDR Netflix or YouTube stream is ~25Mb/s so you can kind of figure out how much you need from there.
 
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What’s the upload speed on these? A lot of people working from home on Zoom, perhaps 2 per household with HD face cams, it can be tough if you don’t have 50+ Mbps up. They are advertising symmetrical speeds, but I’m in the center of SF and all I can get is 18Mbs tops from AT&T (LIES about fiber). In the meantime I’m stuck with Comcast/Xfinity 1 Gbs for $132 per month.
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About 7-8 years ago, AT&T offered DSL service. The only other choice was Comcast. AT&T's service was cheap and reliable but was not fast enough once I started my career.

AT&T said they were replacing the DSL footprint with their high speed fiber but here we are years later, and that still hasn't happened. So now I'm stuck with Comcast.
 
MacSERV said:
All of you folks on DSL should consider signing up for Starlink. It’s not even close to Gb speed, and also not symmetrical, but is a good 200+ Gbps DL for a reasonable $99 (when you can get it). I’m sure it will get faster once more of the satellites have lasers.
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see https://wccftech.com/starlink-u-s-d...ce-blasts-broadband-out-of-the-park-globally/

The details of Speedtest's latest report show that median Starlink download speeds across the U.S. stood at 87.25 Mbps during Q3 2021. When compared to the results from the same organization for the previous quarter, this marks for a 10% drop, as the median speeds stood at 97.23 Mbps in Q2 2021. Speedtest rightly speculates that the drop in download speeds can be a result of Starlink adding new customers as part of an aggressive campaign to build out its base to satiate both its competitors and investors, and prove to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) that a strong demand is present for the satellite internet service.

In the upload segment, Speedtest reports that data gathered across 304 American counties reveals that upload speeds stood at 13.54 Mbps, remaining relatively flat over Q2's data.
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MacBH928 said:
Even if I get 5Gbps connection, will servers like Apple and Steam allow me to download at that speed or will they cap me off at 200mbps?



If my calculations are right, you will need 25 TVs streaming 4K video together to saturate the connection 😁

If servers allow it, with now days crazy 100GB game size , downloading them over 300mbps will be over 44min period but using 1Gbps will be done in around 14 min so there is 30min save time there. Assuming 1 user in the house that is, if more users the download will much lengthier.

Not a deal breaker but if you deal in a huge file sizes (game, video) downloading and uploading it will make a lot of difference.




where in europe? I am seeing 1Gbps in UK for $41
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Exactly. People here saying "work from home" people could use this? Really? What "work" are you doing that needs 2-5Gbps internet? Realizing you need that speed at BOTH ends, it seems unlikely. Maybe 1:1000000 people would have that scenario.

Basically, it's bragging rights. Having that much bandwidth might help congestion at peak period for the 99.9% of people. Who knows. But almost no ones home networks are wired for more that Gigabit.
 
incoherent_1 said:
Exactly. US telecom prices are a joke. Absolutely no justification other than lining more pockets.
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Curious how $12/subscriber pays for workers, maintenance, build-out, upgrades, etc? Seems like at that rate, the telecom's would be losing money.
 
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