I haven't gotten any SMS message yet...
And I don't know what they did about the data plan until the bill comes in I suppose (I don't have the creds to get into the online account at the moment).
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AT&T can charge me for using jailbroken iPhone?
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I haven't gotten any SMS message yet...
And I don't know what they did about the data plan until the bill comes in I suppose (I don't have the creds to get into the online account at the moment).
If anyone else can, let us know.
YES that has already been established many times now BUT the question is whether they actually did it yet or not. So far, there are no experiences told of such thing.
Actual access to a file is not required to know if it isn't correct. Provider just needs to know it isn't correct, then a cascade of events can occur, like forcing a data plan.
... How does the provider know it isn't correct without actual access to the file...
The provider can see the IMEI of the phone that is using it's sim. This number is UNIQUE to every phone. So the provider knows if it's an iPhone or not (actually they know the exact make and model). If it's an iPhone but not an iPhone plan, they can make you use one as per terms of service.
They do not have access to any files on your phone.
I have experienced at&t's wrath. I have a 3gs iphone. I have an att sim card that i used with my blackjack smartphone. I unlocked my iphone two months ago. I used my smartphone sim with 3g in the iphone. Recieved the text from att regarding the september 14th deadline. My 3g internet service worked perfect....until today. They blocked it. I put my sim back in my smartphone and me 3g internet worked. Put it back in my iphone....service is blocked. This confirms it. They are not fuc$in around
i think someone on hofo mentioned it is rolling out regional so thats why its not hitting everyone at once.
I'm not sure I follow that... Sorry... You basically had the sim cards for your iphone and blackjack swapped? Were both phones on att?
My question is: will they still charge you on the data plan even if they put a block? I think the answer you may find out later when you get the bill is Yes.
It is quite strange that your SIM data plan still work for blackjack, but not the iphone. I am guessing ATT put a block on that particular IMEI iphone. That means if you sell your 3G and buy a new (or used/unlocked) iphone, it should work again. Do you know anyone who has an unlock 3G iphone? can you try your SIM & data. Let us know how it goes.
Thanks
Ok guys let me make myself clearer. I bought a blackjack three years ago with att service. Last year i added a 15 dollar unlimited data package. Next i swapped my att sim (now with unlimited data for 15 dollars) into my iphone because i wanted a forty dollar plan with the iphone instead of an iphone plan which is damn near eighty dollars. Now i get 15 dollar unlimited internet instead of 30 dollar iphone internet plan which is way over priced.
I received the att text regarding the september 14 deadline maybe two months after i put my sim in the iphone. Just recently, my iphone"s access to data is blocked. They blocked the imei number of the phone (im assuming) cause internet works on my blackjack when i swap back into it. Im gonna try it with another sim in the iphone just to make sure and ill keep u guys posted.
I received the att text regarding the september 14 deadline maybe two months after i put my sim in the iphone. Just recently, my iphone"s access to data is blocked. They blocked the imei number of the phone (im assuming) cause internet works on my blackjack when i swap back into it. Im gonna try it with another sim in the iphone just to make sure and ill keep u guys posted.
Thanks for the info. That's crystal clear. It does sound like they've blocked data for that IMEI. Personally I don't care if they block data because I've already requested a data block. What I do care about is if they add back my data plan and start charging me for it.
It's a pity there's no way to change the IMEI of your iphone anymore. I'm not clear if that's because it's illegal in some countries or if there are technical reasons related to the baseband. I have a nokia that's out of service that could supply an unused IMEI and at least morally, I don't see any issue with this.
It might also have absolutely nothing to do with the IMEI. Rather, it might simply be that they're restricting which wireless access points names (APNs, think "proxy server") your account is permitted to connect to. The APN might contain different filters to restrict the speed and types of content that can pass through the network to your phone.
One APN might provide access to the "full" Internet (think ISP), whereas another APN might only provide access to the dumbed-down Internet (think WAP).
In theory, your $15 unlimited browsing plan doesn't need to provide access to the full Internet, but simply the dumbed-down WAP version of the Internet, so they might set up your account so that it can only reach the WAP APN, but not the ISP APN. Which would be just fine for your Blackjack because that's the access point it was likely pre-configured to connect to.
Your iPhone is probably configured to use the ISP APN, which AT&T might have registered as off-limits to your account.
You can test this theory (APN-based filtering instead of IMEI-based filtering) by reconfiguring your Blackjack to attempt to connect to AT&T's ISP APN (instead of the WAP APN), and see if you can still reach the Internet.
Or alternately reconfigure the iPhone (if it supports it) to attempt to connect through the WAP APN (instead of the ISP APN) and see if you can still browse the web. Note that this option, even if it works, might limit the range of websites you can visit, or even restrict what types of IP protocols (namely anything that's not HTTP) your phone can use.
To kinda sum this up for every one. Att system does a imei sweep. The sweep is to see if the Data Package Code and Imei match. If they do not then you get the correct message as a warning that service will change. They will do one of 2 things. 1) They will add a Iphone Block to the account preventing the device to connect to the net till a IMEI number that is correct for the current plan is connected with the sim card. 2) They reserve the right to just change the account data plan to the correct plan and then go on with there day while you have to pay for the correct plan.
Att does not know you have a jail broke phone there is no way of knowing this. The Billing systems are smart enough to know when you have the wrong phone with the wrong plan. And yes it is being really forced now. I do not see anyone with a phone provided from att using service unless there are on the correct plan after the end of october / november.
Hope this helps alittle with how things work.
Att does not know you have a jail broke phone there is no way of knowing this. The Billing systems are smart enough to know when you have the wrong phone with the wrong plan. And yes it is being really forced now. I do not see anyone with a phone provided from att using service unless there are on the correct plan after the end of october / november.
Hope this helps alittle with how things work.
That is corrent.
AT&T is trying to maximize their profit and don't want you running a $15 or no data plan when you should have the $30 plan.
It's all about the money!
This is very correct but also its been in the Service Agreement every one never reads for over a year At&t has had the right to force and change everyone to the correct data plan for all PDA/Iphone/Messaging devices and just now starting to force it.
Ok i visited a website called unlockit.co.nz. After visiting the site it allowed me to create a custom APN adress. Now i have access to the internet. You guys think this is safe? Google the above address and let me know ur thoughts. It unblocked my block but i just want to know if it is safe. The custom apn setting i put in was wap.cingular. I have 3G and edge working again
AT&T can charge me for using jailbroken iPhone?
I bought a used 3G iPhone and have unlocked/jailbroken it. My service is with AT&T and I just got an email from them saying this:
Have any of you guys received this? Have they started charging you $30 for the data service?
I bought a used 3G iPhone and have unlocked/jailbroken it. My service is with AT&T and I just got an email from them saying this:
Our records indicate that your service does not include a Data Plan for iPhone.
A Data Plan for iPhone is required. Data Plans for iPhone include unlimited data/email and Visual Voicemail and will prevent unexpected data overage charges.
To update your service please call AT&T customer services by dialing 611 from your wireless handset, or 800-331-0500 from any phone.
Thank you for choosing wireless from AT&T. We appreciate your business.
Sincerely,
AT&T Customer Service
A Data Plan for iPhone is required. Data Plans for iPhone include unlimited data/email and Visual Voicemail and will prevent unexpected data overage charges.
To update your service please call AT&T customer services by dialing 611 from your wireless handset, or 800-331-0500 from any phone.
Thank you for choosing wireless from AT&T. We appreciate your business.
Sincerely,
AT&T Customer Service
Have any of you guys received this? Have they started charging you $30 for the data service?
Your title is misleading. AT&T is not charging you for using a jailbroken phone; they are telling you that your contract does not allow you to use an iPhone on your account without buying an unlimited data plan. They are absolutely right; you signed a contract saying that you would not use an iPhone without a data plan, and your only options are to stop using an iPhone on your account or purchase the appropriate data plan.
Are you using a basic phone data plan, or you dont have a data plan at all. If you are using the wrong data plan theywill send you that message.
Actually....he didn't sign an iPhone contract at all. He bought it used. ATT and Apple don't sell used iPhones. All it is is that ATT noticed that he has an iPhone and is not on an iPhone data plan. It's that simple. The IMIE number identifies the phone and type on the network. He may or may not have adata plan already on that line. If he does, they just have to update it to an iPhone data plan. If he doesn't, then I don't know what they can do. You didn't sign any iPhone contract with them since he didn't buy the iPhone from them.....
He still had to sign a contract when he opened his AT&T account. That contract incorporated the AT&T TOS, which specifies that iPhones cannot be used on an account without the appropriate data plan. That clause is in every AT&T contract, not just ones started with the purchase of an iPhone.
See my presponse, above. You still signed a contract, whether you purchased an iPhone when you did so or not. That said, as long as you don't use any data AT&T is unlikely to do anything beyond send you this email.