Nothing is due this summer. No new iphone has been announced. It's all speculation at this point.
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AT&T Considering $10 Drop in iPhone Monthly Plan Rates?
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Nothing is due this summer. No new iphone has been announced. It's all speculation at this point.
Then you would have an iPod touch with a camera
. AT&T requires data on all of thier PDA smart phones. If you dont get the data then you will not get a rebate (except for an iPhone). I think that the data plan for the iPhone is required because :1.Just about all the features of the phone use data.
2. Having data all the time is apart of the iPhone experience which is something that apple and at&t probably agreeed upon.
AT&T is starting to phase out 1MB and 5MB plans so you wont see them in the future. I'm pretty sure that SMS/MMS will be the same price as any other phone. I don't know why some of you have a dreaded hatred for AT&T and think that they will start charging out the wazoo for MMS.
It's also speculation that the sun will rise tomorrow. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
I agree, a 17% discount is substantial. On top of the 20% off FAN, this make iPhone pricing more attractive. The question is, will then allow the FAN discount or not (they didn't on the 1g iphone)
They did offer the subsidized price when switching from Gen.1 to the 3G. I don't know why they wouldn't do it for this one too. It generates income for them. The number of units sold is very important too.
I have a FAN on my 3G. I don't see why they will drop that now.
To me, any money saved is great. I don't really know if it will happen or not though. They will have to find ways to continue drawing new customers in as well as keep the ones they have. Now is a critical point because some of the first iPhone contracts will be coming to an end.
Why believe anything Moritz writes?
Why in the world would anyone believe this? Scott Moritz at theStreet.com (Cramer!!!!!!!!!!) who wrote the article has less credibility than a used car salesman. The "analyst" who originally opined that there's a "strong possibility" (whatever the hell those weasel words mean) is an "industry pricing strategist" who's either trying to drum up business, or was paid to stir things up, which means the entire premise is based on a WAG. In fact, when Moritz pushes something, I automatically assume it's crap. And when Savitz at Barron's or someone at Murdochs WSJ repeats it (wait for it, wait for it), you pretty much know where it originated (hint: somewhere the sun don't shine).
Now that doesn't mean there won't be price/plan tweaking in the near future since that's almost a certainty. Just don't bet your lunch money that there's anything worth gleaning from that particular story.
Why in the world would anyone believe this? Scott Moritz at theStreet.com (Cramer!!!!!!!!!!) who wrote the article has less credibility than a used car salesman. The "analyst" who originally opined that there's a "strong possibility" (whatever the hell those weasel words mean) is an "industry pricing strategist" who's either trying to drum up business, or was paid to stir things up, which means the entire premise is based on a WAG. In fact, when Moritz pushes something, I automatically assume it's crap. And when Savitz at Barron's or someone at Murdochs WSJ repeats it (wait for it, wait for it), you pretty much know where it originated (hint: somewhere the sun don't shine).
Now that doesn't mean there won't be price/plan tweaking in the near future since that's almost a certainty. Just don't bet your lunch money that there's anything worth gleaning from that particular story.
Why? When new, your 16gb had an unsubsidized value of around $700. Assume after 1 year people will be elibigle for half of a $400 subsidy on an upgrade, so probably will have to pay $400-$500 for the semi-subsidized new one, and re-up for 2 more years. 2G and new subscribers will get full subsidies. You could probably get over $400 for your existing phone which is not tied to any plan (check ebay prices).
I wish I could get an iPhone with just a Data plan and no phone service. Or at the very least a pay-as-you-go option with a data plan.
internal to apple
it could be bunk, but I have heard this from my internal to apple sources, who are supposedly working on the device.
it could be bunk, but I have heard this from my internal to apple sources, who are supposedly working on the device.
I think lower prices will be coming. I mean the iPhone just lost it's crown in the first quarter to the Blackberry. It makes sense that:
As a platform matures you have to lower cost in order to attract new users because at some point everyone that wants one will have one already. Are we at that point yet? Perhaps not globally, but we may be getting closer to it in the U.S.
- Apple releases a new device to stimulate demand
- AT&T lowers cost to do the same thing too
As a platform matures you have to lower cost in order to attract new users because at some point everyone that wants one will have one already. Are we at that point yet? Perhaps not globally, but we may be getting closer to it in the U.S.
Do you know how BlackBerry gained the number one position with the 83xx Curve? Buy one, get one promotions on the carriers. That's the only way that BlackBerry was able to make the gains they did. The numbers may show how many were sold but cut that in half because of the promotion with a bit of leeway for business purchases.
That number was already cut in half because the survey only counted consumer users, not business users.
RIM consistently outsells Apple by two to one when all models of each company are taken into account. The only change was that a single RIM model (the Curve) outsold the iPhone in the consumer market, and two other RIM phones came close to beating it.
The more important takeaway is this: the ATT exclusive no doubt contains an escape clause that depends on a certain number of iPhones being sold per year. If sales are dropping dramatically, then ATT would have to do something radical to boost them.
Lowering the data plan cost seems like a last resort to me, since it's long term income. Giving more subsidy (e.g. a $99 or free iPhone) makes more business sense, unless Apple prohibits it. (But aren't they available like that overseas?)
There's no important takeaway. Nothing is known about any escape clause, or anything else about the contract. Anyone who claims to know is lying. It's that simple.
On the contrary, anyone who claims that there's no clause, either has little experience in such matters or must think that Apple is the dumbest company on the planet.
In thirty years of negotiating hard/software contracts, I've ALWAYS seen an escape clause in case the target isn't marketed well. Only an idiot would create a contract without one.
The same has been written about Apple's exclusivity contracts:
Apple is understood to have an escape clause written into its contracts which will allow it to terminate the deals if "it does not think the phone is being marketed successfully,"
Professionals don't have to see the actual contract to know that something this common and important is in it. The only question is what the parameters are.
I just updated my data plan to the unlimited one after I realized I had been paying overage fees on text messages. Almost $40 a month... I didn't realize I was send over 1500 text messages a month. Hell one month I sent over 2,600. I was blown away. Texting on the iPhone is dangerous because it is like using iChat with a running dialogue. Anyway if they drop the price on the data plan especially when I upgrade from a 1st gen to a new 3G phone this summer I will be very happy.
Hopefully this comes to pass.
After the cracking the screen on my original iPhone this week, I'm definitely in the market for a new phone, and hoping for a new one next month.
After the cracking the screen on my original iPhone this week, I'm definitely in the market for a new phone, and hoping for a new one next month.
