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as soon as the new iPhone comes out i am cancelling my vzw. 2 cells cost me 170 a month. i dont care if att doesnt drop its cost, if so all more the better but you dont know how good 70 is until you are paying what i am.
 
Dropping the rate by $10 per month would be great (hopefully they'll do it for existing customers as well).
 
Let's face it - the monthly plan IS too expensive, especially with the $30 data attachment.
 
Let's face it - the monthly plan IS too expensive, especially with the $30 data attachment.

actually that data plan attachment is what is making it too expensive.

frankly I think if they want to keep folks after they lose their exclusive contract (which could be as soon as a year from now) they need to do something. tiered data plans, cheaper plan, lower texting plans, all of it. but they have to know that they are making folks crazy with the high prices and that is keeping as many folks away if not more as the price of the phone
 
oh, i thought they were talking about the 30 dollar data attachment. my family plan runs at around 100 bucks with 4 lines, and for an extra 20 a month, a purchase wouldn't be too farfetched.
 
right now I have two lines on verizon, charter internet and cable and no home phone. For the same price (if they lower it 10$) I get AT&T DSL, AT&T Home Phone, Directv (over 200 channels), AT&T WiFi access (at Starbucks and the like), and iPhone and one more phone for my wife, plus I will have roll over minutes! Plus, they'll give me over $300 dollars cash back. Man, now thats enough to cover my cancelation fee's and pay for the iphone (almost). I'm so switching, good bye verizon.

How much are you paying for your Verizon phones and Charter cable? AT&T can't even come close to the price/speed point of Comcast in the Bay Area. For $99 we get Home Phone, 50Mbit internet, and digital cable. I dropped the phone and am a bit less than that. AT&T dsl is only 1.5 MBit, and if your lucky enough to be in an area that has AT&T U-verse that's still only have the speed of Comcast.
 
It doesn't surprise me, they have already lowered the cost of their phone plans. Effectively this will mean that I won't be paying anymore when I get the 3GS as it should stay the same price that I pay with the EDGE data plan (wasn't the 3G data $10 more?)
 
It's not the minutes (I have the 450 minute plan for $40), it's not the data (I'll have to pay $10 more now that I'm going 3GS, but they could still bring it back down to $20 for all 3G users), it's the freaking texting plan. It's down right expensive and out of line. I pay $10 (going to $15 thanks to 3GS but I don't know what for) for 1500 texts, which I only use about ~500 of. $20 for unlimited is ridiculous since I only use ~500 texts. Where is the pricing point between 200 and 1500? That's what they need: reduce texting or give us more tiers in pricing.
 
It doesn't surprise me, they have already lowered the cost of their phone plans. Effectively this will mean that I won't be paying anymore when I get the 3GS as it should stay the same price that I pay with the EDGE data plan (wasn't the 3G data $10 more?)

when did they lower the cost of their phone plan? I still pay the same $40 for 450 minutes...
 
A combination between the data and texting plans is what kills me.
$30 data + $20 texting = :(:mad:
 
Seems like this is _not_ going to happen? I haven't pre-ordered a 3GS because I'm still wondering whether they'll drop their rates to rope more folks into a 2 year contract once the first line of customers is serviced. It's much more difficult to rationalize ~$380 in increased monthly fees than it is to rationalize $299 equipment +~$59 pro-rated ETF. Maybe if I thought ATT was superior to Sprint, but I do not.

After all, exclusivity ends in a year, right? If my suspicion is well-founded, it would still be like a month. I probably will not be able to wait... but official chatter would be welcome!
 
It would cost me $15 more every month to go from my first generation iPhone to the 3GS.

Unless something changes, I'll be switching to an Android phone on T-Mobile when my contract expires in September.
 
Lower the voice plan

A combination between the data and texting plans is what kills me.
$30 data + $20 texting = :(:mad:

If they offered a 400min voice plan at half the rate, they would attract more market share. The data plan and text plan is the main reason I have an Iphone.
 
the pda and smartphone plans are $35. Why the fussing?

you could do like I do and use a smartphone on an old media max plan with 200 texts for $19

that and i'm on an ancient 1000 minute plan with ulm night and weekends for $35
 
A combination between the data and texting plans is what kills me.
$30 data + $20 texting = :(:mad:

sigh..we're not so lucky either in Canada
per month we pay bout $70-$80 ..they're just a bunch of greedy
..Rogers and Fido

$60 gets us..
250 min voice airtime
75 SMS
1GB data usage
visual voice mail

..including the voice mail, caller display, unlimited texting/visual voicemail
$15

comes to $75 plus the taxes ..
 
I noticed today that my iPhone 3G S Data plan is going to drop down to $25.50 and my FamilyTalk Unlimited Text Messaging plan will drop down to $25.50 as well when I switch to the iPhone 3G S. I am on a University System of Georgia FAN.
 
Texting fees need to be slashed.

There's no reason to charge you for data and texting.

Congress has been looking at limiting the fees on what the companies admit is useless bandwidth.
 
Anyone have any idea when they will actually be doing this? All the people who preorder right now are going to be stuck with the higher rate. Apple needs to end this exclusivity!!!!
 
I noticed today that my iPhone 3G S Data plan is going to drop down to $25.50 and my FamilyTalk Unlimited Text Messaging plan will drop down to $25.50 as well when I switch to the iPhone 3G S. I am on a University System of Georgia FAN.

....what?
 
I'm a cynic. I'll believe it when I see it.

personally I think something is going to happen. but it might not until closer to when the exclusive contract is up. cause I really do believe that Apple is not going to sign up with another carrier. it is in their best interest to unlock the phone and let anyone that has the technology to carry it do so. make the price full retail if you buy it from them (and you can play the "but you aren't paying any part of the device so no I ain't signing a contract with an ETF" game yourself with the carrier) or the carriers can buy them from Apple and play by their rules on subsidies etc with Apple staying out of it.

my point. when this unlock that I think will happen does, rate plans, contract options etc will be how folks keep or lure customers. ATT has to know that folks aren't happy about their smartphone rates or contracts. so I could see them doing a SP redo (and yes I think they will and should change the game on all such phones not just the iphone) to a lower plan, variable plan or something. keep folks happy so they don't bolt the second they can.

What are you people doing.? How can you so willingly pay AT&T rates just to own an iPhone. Here some food for thought.. I have an iPhone on T-Mobile & get Unlimited Minutes, Internet Access & 200 text for :eek: $42.00 :eek: per month,

Are you in the US. this is an important point. because if you are then you have unlocked your phone against the T&C of the phone. now maybe you don't care about that, clearly you don't if you did it. but some folks aren't willing to take the risk of having the phone break down and being SOL cause even those it would be a warranty repair they don't have one due to the illegal hacking of the phone. so they pay for ATT.

after my 2nd phone discount & student discount.

not everyone has those perks. so lets put it on equal ground. what would be the no discounts, individual user rate at T-Mobile for whatever is closest to 450 minutes during the day, 5000 at night, unlimited to all other T-Mobile users, plus unlimited texting and unlimited 3g data access for a month.

Hopefully when Verizon gets their iPhone

hah, yeah, enjoy your big selection of cdma phones with non-tethered data

this is why Verizon won't get an iphone for at least another year (if the whole 4g/lte thing works). Apple picked GSM over CDMA for a reason -- to only have to make one line of phones. don't see that changing.

The $10 price drop would be great but I'm more concerned about how much I'll be able to get for my 1 year old 16GB after I purchase the new phone. There will probably be a huge surplus of the current model on the used market.

a lot of folks are willing to pay a decent amount for an older model and then unlock it to bump the value. so you might be surprised. although I would consider keeping it as a back up phone. if something happened to your new one you could always temp swap the sims so you have a working phone until you can get to Apple and find out what is up.

Maybe I'm being cynical and should go find a unicorn to pet but I'm thinking the $10 price cut would just be a cruel PR scheme. They'd find a way to get it back like jacking up the price of the data or the SMS plan... soon to be SMS/MMS plan.

actually any price drop would likely be in the data plan or texting. and they aren't likely to bump the price due to MMS. they haven't in years and folks would scream. cause they would have to do it across the board or the iphone folks would have a hissy about being treated different.

The cheapest plan is at&t pay-as-you-go,

you can't sign up pay as you go on an iphone. it's under contract or under the standard contract rates but no actual contract cause you paid full retail. so to pay as you go you would lose your phone number due to the contract rule that such a plan is not valid for the iphone (nor is a no data plan contract. you have iphone, you must have data plan)

They did offer the subsidized price when switching from Gen.1 to the 3G. I don't know why they wouldn't do it for this one too.

folks that bought the iphone 1 only got $200 in subsidies/rebates. folks that bought the iphone 2 were going to get $400. same contract plans and time period, upgrade rules etc. ATT knew they were asking for a storm so they gave all those early adopters a one time instant eligibility to bring them up to speed with the current rules (cause they were treating the new phone like all other smart phones they carry).

but if you bought the new phone in the last year, you got the full subsidies as the rules allowed so you really don't have cause to gripe.


There's no important takeaway. Nothing is known about any escape clause, or anything else about the contract. Anyone who claims to know is lying. It's that simple.

actually since the contract was due to money given to Apple for R&D there likely is some kind of flexing to the deal. not unlike a cell phone service contract. Contract period is X months assuming a rate of repay at Y, but if the rate of repay is actually more than Y, X will be reduced as follows:

which could be the source of all the 5 years, no I heard 2, no I heard 10 blah blah

I am on a University System of Georgia FAN.

and that is why. the rate plan is dropping. you just get a perk cause of school/work.

folks here's the gig. ATT is saying they are treating the iphone like any other smart phone. so any talk of unfairness etc needs to be because they aren't doing this. go shop for any other smart phone with them and ask about the contract terms. cause you sign a one year. what's the rate plans, what's the MMS plan, etc. then tell the sales person you wanna think about it. go home and all ATT and then gripe cause they keep saying 'same rules apply' but no they don't. toss in a nice "I've already contacted the Attorney General's Office (which in many states is the office that handles consumer protection)" and see what happens. particularly those in states with crap 3g service. find out if you can buy any other 3g smart phone with a reduced plan cause of the lack of coverage. if you can, turn that against ATT.
 
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