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And you can be sure AT&T will find a way to limit the WIFI calling feature to customers not on unlimited data plans. Just like they do with tethering.
I sincerely doubt that since WiFi calling should reduce the load on AT&T's network, which is the whole point of preventing us from tethering
 
I use Vonage at home, and with the Vonage iOS app, I can make wifi calls (and answer my home number when I'm not home).
 
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AT&T is only calling out T-Mobile because AT&T wasn't the first with Wi-Fi calling. They're obviously scared of them, and for good reason.
 
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AT&T badmouthing the other carriers. What's new? They are not launching the service because they technically can't or they won't make any money from it... Or both! That's why. Happy with my wifi calling on t-mobile... and data stash for one year - not one month -, and worldwide unlimited data and texts, and texts in many airplanes in the US, and no overcharges when I run out of my high-speed data, and 45Mbps at my local park, and my low prices. And with band 12 on the new 6s, watch their coverage in the countryside. There's no reason to choose ATT any more. Only Verizon has better coverage... and none of the features I just mentioned, all for a much higher price.
 
Thanks AT&T. This solidifies my decision to switch to T-Mobile. :)
You absolutely need to switch. We just moved to T-mobile and got 6 new iPhone 6s for 5 and 10 dollars a month with the trade in of our old phones. We also get 10gigs of data per person and it rolls over each month. At&t were killing us on overage charges because of my kids music streaming and by the way music streaming is free and in my area coverage is great. Did i mention that they gave me their personal cell spot for free and anyone switching can get the same deals.
 
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How about them not listening and disregarding throttling data that is unlimited??!! Oh wait.. that has nothing to do with this..lol
 
1 gbps?! In your house?!? FIBER!?!? I'll believe it when I see it
The public utility board of Chattanooga tn is forward thinking 1gbps fiber is available to all of their area for 30 and 70 dollars. My son has it and it is great.
 
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I sincerely doubt that since WiFi calling should reduce the load on AT&T's network, which is the whole point of preventing us from tethering
The whole point of preventing tethering was not to reduce the loan on the network, it was to reduce the number of unlimited data holdouts by enticing them to switch to a limited data plan so they could take advantage of tethering.
 
After years of me praising att, I finally woke the F up and realized how bad they had gotten. And recently I learned about t mobile and band 12. That's all I needed to jump ship.

I get wifi calling, tethering, rollover data, 10gb per line for 2 lines plus a bonus 10gb of data per line that rolls over for $100 a month. Att can go F itself. They will never see a penny from me again.

I get way better service from tmo on my iPhone 6s Plus then I ever did with att here in LA (Los Angeles, not Louisiana)
 
After years of me praising att, I finally woke the F up and realized how bad they had gotten. And recently I learned about t mobile and band 12. That's all I needed to jump ship.

I get wifi calling, tethering, rollover data, 10gb per line for 2 lines plus a bonus 10gb of data per line that rolls over for $100 a month. Att can go F itself. They will never see a penny from me again.

I get way better service from tmo on my iPhone 6s Plus then I ever did with att here in LA (Los Angeles, not Louisiana)

Funny… as I was reading your comments, just below appeared an ad for - and I quote - "AT&T U-Verse high-speed internet $30/month". So I checked the offer and here's what high-speed means for AT&T: U-verse High Speed Internet up to 768 Kbps. Shows in which century they live! ...and how stupid they think customers are!
 
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I don't get it. Why do they need FCC approval for this? Wifi calling is optional and if you need to use TTY you can just not turn it on.

From what I can gather TTY is too antiquated, won't work well with WiFi calling and they want to roll out a better alternative to TTY which may take 1-3 years to complete they need FCC Approval to temporarily offer WiFi Calling as is in the interim as well as approval for their new TTY Alternative

Why can't they just put us all in the 'beta' for now, and launch it officially when TTY is ready and approval is received?

It's not ideally an open Beta and making it an open Beta may have repricussions.
To be fair the WiFi calling STILL Works for many provided you stick to iOS Beta versions. The public iOS Beta is still open/ongoing if you're persistent and want it badly enough get iOS Beta and force AT&T WiFi to work the same way all of us that aren't even supposed to have it did

( apparently the WiFi Calling Beta was only supposed to be in 3 select markets only according to AT&T )

Wi-Fi calling on AT&T has sucked on the beta anyway. It doesn't transition between network and wifi and if you walk into a wifi spot and make a call it'll cut the call off when it connects to wifi. I hope they fix this for the public release.

I've had NO Problems transitioning even been able to Base Network to WiFi Calling network something even AT&T MicroCell couldn't ever do. Used to be only a 1 way handoff/transition


I understand ATT might be a little better in some area, but I wouldn't put up with their crap and how they treat "their customers".
That's why I've left them and with T-mobile.

Just another reason to hate AT&T. Glad I left them for T-Mobile last year. Why would anyone defend AT&T after shenanigans like this?

Thanks AT&T. This solidifies my decision to switch to T-Mobile. :)

LOL you 3 are suckers for leaving AT&T for T-Mobile have fun having your information stolen, getting horrid customer service, getting the runaround, lied to for the sake of their gimmicks and them getting you off their back, oh and ProTip "Unlimited" with them or anyone is never really unlimited because yay fine print


I guess ATT is gunshy over the unlimited data throttling thing.
Although TMob has had wifi calling for over a year.

I enabled it when on beta iOS 9, once the new 6S+ gets here will it still be enabled for me?

In theory yes you may need to re-enable it on your 6S+ in the settings and hopefully it works or you may need to join iOS Beta to access it.


For me this bill cycle it's actually listed as an active yet FREE feature on my account/line of service so hopefully it's just tied to your account/plan/features at this point.
 
LOL you 3 are suckers for leaving AT&T for T-Mobile have fun having your information stolen, getting horrid customer service, getting the runaround, lied to for the sake of their gimmicks and them getting you off their back, oh and ProTip "Unlimited" with them or anyone is never really unlimited because yay fine print

You can keep sucking that AT&T tit if you want. But believe me when I tell you that the only sucker here is you for thinking the T-Mobile of today (with their 700mhz band 12) is the same T-Mobile of yesteryear. I couldn't find a single place where att has service and T-Mobile didn't in my testing. But I found many places where att didn't have service and T-Mobile did.

As for unlimited not being unlimited with T-Mobile, are you kidding me? Is unlimited unlimited with AT&T????? Are you seriously that delusional? Does AT&T give you free tethering of all your data? Wifi calling? Roll over what data you don't use and keep it for 12 months????? 2 lines with 10gb each plus and extra 10gb rollover data per line for $100 a month?????????

Didn't think so.
 
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We're looking into T-Mobile now. Tired of AT&T's knuckle-dragging on new features, and if T-Mobile is as serviceable as some people in my area are telling me they might be worth a shot.

NOT Worth their hassles lies and risks

ATT, let ME decide when I want to use wifi calling, not YOU. Get this feature out or you will lose many customers. No excuses. And get going on HD voice too. Why are you so slow at these useful and valuable features? T Mobile has had them for years. GET GOING ATT!

You can choose to use it when you want
Or did you not join when it was in Beta?


I don't understand. If they turned it off, why do I still have it? I am staring at my screen right now and it shows AT&T Wi-Fi.
But on my wife's 6 Plus, I can't enable it.

They didn't exactly "turn it off" persay they are just limiting new people joining the Beta for it or people disabling then re-enabling it. Best to keep it on as is and NOT Make any changes to it while the damned FCC Has them in feature limbo


After iOS 9 came out, my daughters iPhone 6 has the option to turn on wifi calling (she hasn't tried it yet though). However, on my iPhone 5s I don't even have the option. Is AT&T planning to support wifi calling on only the iPhone 6 and later, and not in the 5 or 5s? If that's the case, then AT&T stinks worse than ever.

No Apple devices till either the 5S or 6
and iOS 7 rollout even had ANY Carrier WiFi Calling support so it's iffy


I don't see why the excuses and holdup - you use your own stinking Wi-Fi network to make up for their lame coverage, and you still get charged minutes. So what skin is it off their miserly noses?

And you can be sure AT&T will find a way to limit the WIFI calling feature to customers not on unlimited data plans. Just like they do with tethering.

I sincerely doubt that since WiFi calling should reduce the load on AT&T's network, which is the whole point of preventing us from tethering


You DO NOT "Get charged minutes" yes you use minutes but most plans these days at all carriers include unlimited minutes. Also AT&T for now is supposedly restricting WiFi Calling feature to those on Mobile Share, or Mobile Share Value plans ONLY ( granted some may of forced it w/o those plans ) which includes Unlimited minutes. So yea you're using minutes but no you're NOT Getting charged for them by any means or in any sense


If you did get charged it would likely be cause the ISP's are charging AT&T cause now you're using whoevers network WiFi you're connecting to for your WiFi calls and that's iffy

You can keep sucking that AT&T tit if you want. But believe me when I tell you that the only sucker here is you for thinking the T-Mobile of today (with their 700mhz band 12) is the same T-Mobile of yesteryear. I couldn't find a single place where att has service and T-Mobile didn't in my testing. But I found many places where att didn't have service and T-Mobile did.

As for unlimited not being unlimited with T-Mobile, are you kidding me? Is unlimited unlimited with AT&T????? Are you seriously that delusional? Does AT&T give you free tethering of all your data? Wifi calling? Roll over what data you don't use and keep it for 12 months????? 2 lines with 10gb each plus and extra 10gb rollover data per line for $100 a month?????????

Didn't think so.

AT&T Tit? Wow real classy! Glad to see the Internet at its finest even on a website discussing iPhones and such

Did I say they were "the T-Mobile of yesteryear" ? No I didn't



Does 700mhz Band 12 work everywhere? Uh another NO and you're forced to buy the new iPhone or other new compatible device to access it. Not all of us can or do upgrade yearly or more frequent



Couldn't find a single place eh?
Yea because surely you being the rich savvy world traveler you are have been anywhere and everywhere including my parents house wherein T-Mobile = 1 bar of Signal or worse AT&T = 3 bars


Never said AT&T was unlimited data either re-read what I said

Better yet since fully reading is not your forte I'll spell it out this time

Unlimited is Never ever unlimited no mater whom your provider/carrier/"UnCarrier" is

Unlimited is 99.99% myth .01% at a cost

AT&T will keep giving you data if you keep paying beyond limits or throttle on old unlimited grandfathered plans

T-Mobile Sprint whoever
Will give unlimited but at point will throttle you then if you still use too much they cut you off or change your plan because of so called "network abuse"
Still it amounts to not being unlimited in the truest most literal possible sense



Does AT&T Give Free tethering?
Yes I can use ALL OF MY DATA Anyway I see fit and have done hotspotting ( which T-Mobile caps at 7GB or a % of your data bucket ) tethering ( also restricted at T-Mobile ) and normal mobile data usage never had an issue dating back to the iPhone 3GS


WiFi Calling? Clearly you didn't read the article and don't read the comments enough. I have been using WiFi calling pretty dam well on AT&T no costs or nothing

You seem so anti AT&T I have to wonder about you sucking T-Mobile's Tit?

As for pricing and such its all about what you want out of your carrier, what you're willing to pay, if it can be worth the time money etc and if you can get value for your money.

For me I can and I'm fine with AT&T
Could they do better? Hell yea

But T-Mobile Verizon Sprint
( insert other carriers ) can all still improve and do better too

Oh and for the record I'm grandfathered into a promo where I get 30GB 4G LTE with Rollover Data for the price of 10GB before the adjusted pricing recently

I'll grant you the Rollover period NEEDS To be longer at ATT and there's talk about doing it since it's 1 of the top complaints


Side note T-Mobile's customer service has been crap and downhill for years
( I've used T-Mobile off and on for work and on a prepaid bases )
 
So how long do the iOS 9 beta activations of wifi calling last?
no clue my WiFi Beta Activation still worked and is working from iOS 9 Beta 2 all the way up to iOS 9.1 Beta 3 which I'm on now. Just made a few WiFi calls on AT&T yesterday and today and I intend to use it every chance I get just like any other included or free features lol

#MilkingIt #BetaTesterToTheExtreme
 
Wi-Fi calling still works for me here in florida. just upgraded phones and re-activated. i did start under beta a couple months back
 
LOL you 3 are suckers for leaving AT&T for T-Mobile have fun having your information stolen, getting horrid customer service
I have been with T-Mobile for over 3 years and the T -Mobile customer service has been excellent.

The T-Mobile data breach was Experian's fault as they were the one who got hacked. So how is this T-Mobile's fault? Please enlighten everyone on that.

Speaking of data breaches:

http://thedroidguy.com/2014/06/att-data-breach-exposes-private-information-500-customers-93774

http://www.cnet.com/news/at-t-warns-1600-customers-of-data-breach/

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/08/att-data-breaches-revealed-280k-us-customers-exposed.html

Unless you are extremely naive, AT&T customers should also be concerned about their personal information being stolen. And in the case of AT&T, it is a direct result of AT&T's inability to protect the customer information.
 
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T-mobile is the same at least for me in Chicago. Not getting band 12 anytime soon and extreme congestion in downtown last time I tried it (4 months ago) it was unusable. Indoors, forget about T-mobile. Couldn't even make a call while in downtown Evanston only on the 2nd floor inside right by a window. Had to step outside to make a call- something I previously hadn't had to do for several years on any other carrier. So I'm sticking with AT&T, while they certainly aren't perfect, it works well most of the time except for pockets of congestion in Chicago loop. WiFi calling works very well for me, using iOS 9.0.2 on a new phone, not on a beta iOS anymore.

Point is- LOCATION. All this carrier bashing is so dumb, people. It totally depends on where you are located. For me, t-mobile has been garbage. Wish it wasn't so, I like what they're doing, but, I can't use them.
 
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I'm sure he texts just fine now as you say. He would benefit from something like RTT because TTY is extremely slow. RTT would allow him to have audio converted to text in real time instead of having to wait for a message to be composed and then sent back to him. It's faster, it's current, and it's easer. It isn't innovation, it's evolution, creating a better system for those who need it.



You can't text message a business number, a doctor's office, pay a bill over the phone, or a multitude of other services people have to talk on their phones for. This allows all those conversations you and I have to be real time instead of the delay it takes the compose the message and send it back.
Great insight, thank you.
 
I have been with T-Mobile for over 3 years and the T -Mobile customer service has been excellent.

The T-Mobile data breach was Experian's fault as they were the one who got hacked. So how is this T-Mobile's fault? Please enlighten everyone on that.

Speaking of data breaches:

http://thedroidguy.com/2014/06/att-data-breach-exposes-private-information-500-customers-93774

http://www.cnet.com/news/at-t-warns-1600-customers-of-data-breach/

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/08/att-data-breaches-revealed-280k-us-customers-exposed.html

Unless you are extremely naive, AT&T customers should also be concerned about their personal information being stolen. And in the case of AT&T, it is a direct result of AT&T's inability to protect the customer information.

If you do the math on those articles linked that's 282,100 affected
( less than T-Mobile's 15 million plus affected )

And for the record I worry about BOTH Especially since I had my info run by TMO purely to see what they'd want for me to be able to consider returning within the affected timeframe

How is it TMobile's fault? Let's start with the fact they chose Experian over other industry options

Also lets not shy away from the fact Experian said the affected server "ONLY Had T-Mobile data on it"

That makes the attack look suspiciously targeted what's to stop T-Mobile from having this happen again and more widespread?

Did I ever once flat out state I wasn't concerned? Love how some people on this forum are good for putting words in ones mouth
 
If you do the math on those articles linked that's 282,100 affected
( less than T-Mobile's 15 million plus affected )

So now you are downplaying the AT&T data breaches because it was only 282K. And if you do the math that is still 282,000 people affected.

Also lets not shy away from the fact Experian said the affected server "ONLY Had T-Mobile data on it"

Also let's not shy away from the fact that AT&T had has 3 data breaches within the last 18 months.

Did I ever once flat out state I wasn't concerned? Love how some people on this forum are good for putting words in ones mouth

Did you ever once flat out state that you were concerned about the 3 AT&T data breaches? No you did not.
 
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