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does anyone knows what happens after oct 31. can people only sign up for the lesser caps at those rates?
 
I meant vs the old way of signing a 2 year contract. The $200 price for an entry level iPhone 6 vs paying almost $30 a month for 18 months or whatever. I'll have to see what I'm missing here.
You're missing that on the 10GB+ plans, if you upgrade your phone using Next (or if you're using a phone that's completely paid off), the normal $40/month fee to join a smartphone to the plan gets discounted down to $15/month.

If you upgrade a phone using a 2-year contract, you get no discount on the $40/month fee to join a smartphone to the plan.

That makes upgrading using a 2-year contract $25/month more expensive than upgrading via Next. $25 extra per month x 24 months = $600. Take that $600 extra you're paying for monthly service over a 2-year contract and add the $199 you paid up-front for your phone, and you end up paying $799 for a $649 iPhone.

With Next, after you make all of your monthly payments, you end up paying $649 for a $649 iPhone.
 
How about Unlimited like text I mean come on when will this ever happen for Data plan is this like the cable companies seriously when will major companies start thinking about the customers again.
 
iPhone 6 64GB on Next vs. 2 Year Agreement

So let's start with the basics. You get a Mobile Share plan of some number of GB of data - for this example, let's say it's 10GB for $100.

Then you have an option, get the 64GB iPhone 6 with a 2 year subsidized rate plan, or choose Next 12 or Next 18.

Next gives you 0% interest and you amortize the full MSRP on the phone. For this device, that price is $749.99. Each month with Next 12, you'll pay $37.50 for the phone (for 20 months, at which point it is paid off) or with Next 18, you'll pay $31.25 for the phone (for 24 months, at which point it is paid off). You will NOT pay an upgrade fee to get the phone with Next. This is a $40 savings. The line charge for your number is $15/month with Next because you're basically just buying a line and have a separate zero interest financing agreement for the handset. These are unbundled from one another.

In a traditional two year agreement, you pay up front for the device a subsidized price of $299. AT&T takes on the subsidy and you are paying for it - for 24 months via a line charge of $40. That $40 is really like paying $15 + $25 for the subsidization of your device. You also pay an upgrade fee of $40.

Looking at the attachment - you are comparing how much you spend OUT OF YOUR POCKET for the line charge and the device price. It doesn't include the 10GB data plan for $100/month. As you can see, even if you didn't care about early upgrades, using Next gets you a total out of pocket spend of $1109.99 after 24 months, whether you used Next 12 or Next 18 and the two year subsidized phone results in an out of pocket cost of $1299.99. So if you pay outright for the phone, or finance it at zero interest on Next, you save $190.00.

For anyone doing a payback period of 24 months (or longer) I can't really make it clearer than that.
 

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How about Unlimited like text I mean come on when will this ever happen for Data plan is this like the cable companies seriously when will major companies start thinking about the customers again.
I'd be all for unlimited LTE data, but when it comes to comparing companies like AT&T/Verizon/Sprint/T-Mobile to your local cable company, you can't forget that each of the companies above have spent literally billions of dollars each year (over the last 7+ years) to upgrade their data networks from the crap speeds we had in the US back in 2007 to the LTE speeds that we have now.

I don't know about you, but my unlimited cable modem data (which isn't actually unlimited, they just don't talk about the monthly caps unless you use a lot of data and go over it) hasn't gotten any cheaper since 2007, nor is it 20x faster today than it was back in 2007 (like my LTE data is).
 
When you upgraded her to the 5S did you use NEXT or did you upgrade to a 2 year contract on her line?

We originally just did the two year contract. After all for years now we have been upgrading our phones every two years and assuming that the subsidy was being paid in the service fees, I had no idea that the mobile share plans were different. Just didn't read the fine print and nobody at the AT&T store pointed out the differences between the mobile share plan and the plan I was on.

I'm not saying that the mobile share plan is a bad deal, it probably isn't unless you compare it to T-Mobile, etc. what frustrated me is that it wasn't marketed as a $260 plan that is reduced by $25 per line if you buy the phone outright.

Obviously going on contract with this plan is stupid since you will pay an extra $600 over the two years which is way more than you'd pay to buy the phone outright or use the next plan. But we now have to buy phones outright to make this plan work for us. I think this is the right direction since I have been trying to make my kids understand that iPhones are not free or $200 for a while now, but it should be explained clearly and I think that AT&T advertises this in a deceptive manner that their sales people do not try to clarify.

I just think that some people will get a shock next month that's all. Not everyone, but enough to make it hurt to be an AT&T customer service rep!
 
Thank you Sprint. Thank you T-Mobile.

This is what a free market looks like. This is what real competition looks like.

About time.
 
NO! Then guys like you can use as much as you want bogging down the network, which nonetheless affects me. What's your excuse for using so much? "Because I can." Unlimited is GONE. Some of us prefer it that way.

Lol I see you fell for AT&T line hook and sinker.
 
AT&T Next, still paying the subsidy tax while paying more than full price of the device. Winner winner chicken dinner.

Three possibilities:

1) You're great at math but didn't check your results and it went horribly wrong.
2) You hate AT&T so much you're spreading FUD
3) You work for the competition.

Me?

I did the math, the AT&T price is MSRP. It's very fair and beneficial for the data included. :)
 
I went to ATT Wireless page to see if there is any comparable plans to what T-Mobile offers. OMG, what's on the webpage is so confusing with so many options to choose from...

I agree and even worse is that twice I called to ask retentions to tell me what it would cost to do next vs. contract for a 2 year period and not ONCE would anyone give me an answer even while they claim to have a special ATT calculator and rating system which said I was a 4 out of 4 on their system which is best you can be - I knew the answer but I wanted to confirm it and they just kept trying to add me to a higher data plan, talk in circles + then would not tell me what ETF was on 2 year contract!

I am an individual user who uses less than 10GB data so while I just bought my new iPhone 6+ on att next out of contract it now has increased my monthy charge by $15 and if I pay off it will reduce by $15.....in addition I only asked for 1GB of extra data to stay and they refused....they instead said I will receive $100 credit in October for being on next and was written in notes + have name of rep

question:

if I switch from ATT next to ATT 2 year contract, pay the 399 cost of iPhone then cancel + paid ETF of $325 and switch to T-Mobile would I not be better off? I would trade in a perfect well kept iPhone 5 to T-Mobile, keep my iPhone 6+ of which I would have paid 399, no $40 fee as my FAN does not charge and 2 months later, T-Mobile would reimburse my ETF charge of $325? I would then have a fully owned iPhone 6+ (cost $399 + costs of higher ATT service fee until switch + sales tax??) and be on $45 a month plan which fine for my use....tmobile is perfect in my area so I would pay much less per month than ATT and have a fully owned iPhone?!?

is there a certain amount of days that you must wait to cancel to be charged an ETF at ATT?

am I missing something?? is this wrong to do in any way?

any threads for individual plans as most I found all are multiple lines?!?

any help much appreciated

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We originally just did the two year contract. After all for years now we have been upgrading our phones every two years and assuming that the subsidy was being paid in the service fees, I had no idea that the mobile share plans were different. Just didn't read the fine print and nobody at the AT&T store pointed out the differences between the mobile share plan and the plan I was on.

I'm not saying that the mobile share plan is a bad deal, it probably isn't unless you compare it to T-Mobile, etc. what frustrated me is that it wasn't marketed as a $260 plan that is reduced by $25 per line if you buy the phone outright.

Obviously going on contract with this plan is stupid since you will pay an extra $600 over the two years which is way more than you'd pay to buy the phone outright or use the next plan. But we now have to buy phones outright to make this plan work for us. I think this is the right direction since I have been trying to make my kids understand that iPhones are not free or $200 for a while now, but it should be explained clearly and I think that AT&T advertises this in a deceptive manner that their sales people do not try to clarify.

I just think that some people will get a shock next month that's all. Not everyone, but enough to make it hurt to be an AT&T customer service rep!

agree, when you can ATT they won't give you direct answers! they do everything they can to not answer which is why I want to leave now! I posted above just not sure if my little plan would be a massive ordeal or not but I was out of contract and they would not give me a measly 1GB extra to stay! they did give me some credits but they just try to confuse people more! I had everything written out in front of me when I called every time! i wrote everything down each time I called w/names and info rec'd - I also choice ATT next as I was told before launch, I would get a $25 credit each month by not doing contract! that is why I bought iphone on next! but after reading here and fine prints and making calls, that was never happening as I am under 10GB!
 
ATT Next is a total scam. It looks cheaper in the 1st year (which is advertised on the website) but will become MORE expensive in the 2nd year.
 
ATT Next is a total scam. It looks cheaper in the 1st year (which is advertised on the website) but will become MORE expensive in the 2nd year.

How is it a scam? NEXT is a transparent way to pay for the phone without a subsidy? The costs are clear throughout the program...how does it become more expensive the second year?
 
ATT Next is a total scam. It looks cheaper in the 1st year (which is advertised on the website) but will become MORE expensive in the 2nd year.

not true - you pay the cost of phone same amount each month but they make it so hard to make sense to anyone with even a brain and a ½
 
Much rather have my current 6GB throttle free than pay a bunch of money to have it throttle at 2Gb to unbarable 3G speeds. Would rather not have Internet at all than be frustrated by slow speeds.
That doesn't happen at all, I'm blazing at LTE with 14gb data between my two devices (that's 7gb a device) so far this month. I really can't tell a difference in my service, other than a cheaper bill.

Tmobile ftw
 
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Maybe they think this will make up for the fact that a lot of people on the '10GB, 4 lines, unlimited talk and text for $160' plan don't realize that this only lasts until you upgrade your phone. We found this out the hard way (rather than the easy way which have been for one of the AT&T sales people to fess up to it when they sold me on the idea of giving up my unlimited data plan). I 'upgraded' to this plan so I could get smartphones for all my family and then my wife's phone completed her contract a month later. After upgrading her to a 5S we noticed the next month that our $160 plan was now $185, which is when we learned about the 'discount' we received until we upgraded. Basically the plan is $260 per month with a $25 discount per line if you bring your own phone to the party (existing phones being grandfathered in until you upgrade)

We tried to explain to anyone at AT&T who would listen that this was not explained to us otherwise we wouldn't have switched to the plan until after we had upgraded the phone, but that seemed to fall on deaf ears.

I explained that they were going to be in a world of hurt next month when the iPhone 6 upgrades started to see their bills go up even though they thought that they were just on a new contract. In the end we just paid off the contract ($300) and that got us the discount back, but better than paying $600 over the next two years.

I still think a lot of people don't understand this plan. But at least I do now!


Sorry no one explained it to you but signing a two year would have been no better and you would have pqid a lot more up front and not had to option to upgrade early. Doing next vs two year for most is cheaper over two years. As stated before this has been explain to death on here so no need to go into it again.
 
I don't know your prices whitout contract, but her in France It's a lot cheaper, we have unlimited call and text (Europe and US included) and 20GB for 20€

ps : It's funny to see that we can call US mobile from france much cheaper than US to US :)

do you receive a government subsidy on mobile phones? france also has amazing free pre school for kids, free healthcare + on - the models of most EU countries have way higher taxes + more of a socialist platform - I lived there and loved it! but the one good thing about the US is that they don't take 41 to 45% taxes like they do in France - other countries in EU have even higher taxes but then they get 8 week vacations, university paid, year off with kids for both parents and the like....
 
So how does this apply to those of us that already had a 15 gig plan, and just upgraded our line say, oh I don't know A WEEK AGO to get iPhone 6+??? I use nearly all of 15 gigs every month that cushion would have been really nice!!
 
So how does this apply to those of us that already had a 15 gig plan, and just upgraded our line say, oh I don't know A WEEK AGO to get iPhone 6+??? I use nearly all of 15 gigs every month that cushion would have been really nice!!

I will find out tomorrow. Calling in the morning.
 
So how does this apply to those of us that already had a 15 gig plan, and just upgraded our line say, oh I don't know A WEEK AGO to get iPhone 6+??? I use nearly all of 15 gigs every month that cushion would have been really nice!!

did you log into your account and try to change plans? the promotion is good for current customers....so you should have the option to change it effective immediately.
 
did you log into your account and try to change plans? the promotion is good for current customers....so you should have the option to change it effective immediately.

I changed it last week when I got my new phone, that's my point!!
 
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