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The Fair Plan

This isn't rocket science folks. Make everyone happy:

  • $10 per 1GB
  • Go over 1GB and you are charged $10 for an additional 1GB
  • Rinse and repeat.
  • Feel free to share.
 
This is why I keep my iPad Mini as a Verizon device (no contract, free tethering) and my iPhone AT&T (Unlimited data without tethering)

Be careful with the data plan for Verizon. Verizon deactivates your iPad sim if you cancel the service and requires you to show-up at a Verizon store to get a new SIM but from what I read, they try to force you into a costly post-paid plan. See this link:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1612394/
 
I'm thinking of doing this. Is it feasible? Is there a VOIP app that's entirely free or do you have to pay for every minute like Skype? What are people doing now-a-days?
It's definitely feasible, especially if you don't use the phone aspect of your smartphone that much.

I use the Talkatone app which uses my Google account to make outgoing calls for free to US and Canada. It works great, but because I don't have a Google Voice number, I can't receive calls this way.

So I also use textPlus which gives you a number, so you can use it both for outgoing and incoming calls. It's free to text US/Canadian numbers, but costs around 1 cent/min to make outgoing calls.

I also use FaceTime, Skype.
 
Be careful with the data plan for Verizon. Verizon deactivates your iPad sim if you cancel the service and requires you to show-up at a Verizon store to get a new SIM but from what I read, they try to force you into a costly post-paid plan. See this link:

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1612394/

Not my experience. I turn it off for months I don't use it. And turn it on for the months I know I'll need it. I've done this 3 or 4 times since I bought it.
 
That isn't true. They slow you down after 3GB for 3G devices, and 5GB for LTE devices.

They only send nastygrams when they find you're tethering with that plan.

Nope, not really true. The 3G/LTE devices may be true but when I had my iPhone4 I got throttled after 2gb. I also got a nastygram. I was NOT tethering. Garman maps, for some reason, kept trying to download the maps over and over again, not sure why. When I woke up the next day it had used over 2GB of data. It happened twice, about 8 months apart. I then deleted the app and never went back.
 
2-year cost for individual with 16GB iPhone, from cheapest to most expensive (without taxes and regulation fees).
  • Absolute cheapest: GoPhone 250 minutes (unlimited text, no data): $1250
  • Cheapest with unlimited text and some data: GoPhone 500 minutes (unlimited text, 200MB): $1610
  • Cheapest with unlimited mobile to mobile voice: Individual 450 minutes (unlimited mobile to mobile voice, no text, 300MB): $1676
  • Cheapest with unlimited voice and text: MobileShare 300MB (unlimited voice and text): $1880
  • Cheapest with 1GB+ data: GoPhone unlimited (unlimited voice and text, 2GB): $2090
  • Individual 450 minutes (unlimited mobile to mobile voice, unlimited text, 300MB): $2156
  • MobileShare 1GB (unlimited voice and text): $3592
  • MobileShare 2GB (unlimited voice and text): $2276
  • Individual 450 minutes (unlimited mobile to mobile voice, unlimited text, 3GB): $2396

And with 2-lines:
  • Absolute cheapest: GoPhone 250 minutes (unlimited text, no data): $2500
  • Cheapest with unlimited voice and text, and some data: MobileShare 300MB (unlimited voice and text, 300MB shared): $2632
  • Family 550 minutes (unlimited mobile to mobile voice, no text, 300MB): $2872
  • GoPhone 500 minutes (unlimited text, 200MB): $3220
  • Individual 450 minutes (unlimited mobile to mobile voice, unlimited text, 300MB): $3592
  • Cheapest with 1GB+ data: MobileShare 1GB (unlimited voice and text, 1GB shared): $3592
  • MobileShare 2GB (unlimited voice and text, 2GB shared): $3832
  • Individual 450 minutes (unlimited mobile to mobile voice, unlimited text, 3GB): $4072
  • GoPhone unlimited (unlimited voice and text, 2GB): $4180

tl;dr: Depending on your priorities, MobileShare plans could be the best plan (if you must stay with AT&T). FAN discounts typically favor Individual plans, so your bang for the buck isn't quite clear cut. It is unfortunate that AT&T forces its customers to do this silly dance to get best bang for the buck.

Here is the gotcha... Go to AT&T's gophone.com and select your 'Absolute cheapest' plan. Step through AT&T's signup procedure. When you get to the part about selecting a phone, you can't select an iPhone. The 'Absolute cheapest' plan is only available on select phones. Apparently AT&T concluded that iPhone service is more costly to provide than is service to these other phones. Using the analogy from another poster, "AT&T will sell you gas for your car at $3 /gallon if you have an inexpensive car but will charge you $6 / gallon if you have a more expensive car." You are after all buying the 'car' upfront. Why the different price for the gas depending on the car model?

What the heck! I just checked gophone.com and now no iPhones are available even if you select the phone first.
 
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Thank you Baby Jesus

Thank you sweet Baby Jesus for nixing the T-Mobile purchase which is hopefully dead forever. I firmly believe AT&T would have ass-****** everyone in sight had that happened. Instead they will actually have to compete as more and more people wise-up and switch to other alternatives.

I pay T-Mobile about $100/mo (taxes incl) with my customer loyalty discounts for 4 lines. Unlimited voice, unlimited text, 500MB data (technically unlimited but throttled after 500). No contract.

I bought my own iPhone 4S and the three other 3GS for the others. Each 3GS (16gb) was about $80-$100 when I bought them used - got them "factory" unlocked for about $3 each via eBay. My 4S was about $800 (64 gb) new and unlocked. Will buy used 4S phones for the others once the new phones come out and prices drop further.

Since I work out of my home office or am often in wi-fi when I play poker (yes, that's my life), this works fine for me. I never come close to exceeding about 200 MB.

And when I travel overseas, I buy a pre-paid SIM card for my iPhone and just forward my USA mobile to my Vonage office phone and forward that to my int'l number. Works perfectly!

I'd much rather burn my money that give it to AT&T.
 
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Here is the gotcha... Go to AT&T's gophone.com and select your 'Absolute cheapest' plan. Step through AT&T's signup procedure. When you get to the part about selecting a phone, you can't select an iPhone. The 'Absolute cheapest' plan is only available on select phones.

I am not sure if AT&T's GoPhone plan ever offered iPhone directly, but you can buy unlocked iPhone directly from Apple (or wherever), visit your nearest AT&T store to pickup a free nano SIM card, and sign up for one several prepaid smartphone plans ($25-60/month).
 
I am not sure if AT&T's GoPhone plan ever offered iPhone directly, but you can buy unlocked iPhone directly from Apple (or wherever), visit your nearest AT&T store to pickup a free nano SIM card, and sign up for one several prepaid smartphone plans ($25-60/month).

Thanks. That sounds workable. AT&T should fix the GoPhone pages as on the sidebar they offer operating system options Andriod, iOS, etc. Showing an iOS option is sort of pointless if the don't offer the iPhone.
 
Nope, not really true. The 3G/LTE devices may be true but when I had my iPhone4 I got throttled after 2gb. I also got a nastygram. I was NOT tethering. Garman maps, for some reason, kept trying to download the maps over and over again, not sure why. When I woke up the next day it had used over 2GB of data. It happened twice, about 8 months apart. I then deleted the app and never went back.

Well it may had been true when you had your iPhone 4, but AT&T clarified their throttling policies on their unlimited plans last year.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/1/28...ited-data-throttling-increases-cap-to-3gb-for
 
This isn't rocket science folks. Make everyone happy:

  • $10 per 1GB
  • Go over 1GB and you are charged $10 for an additional 1GB
  • Rinse and repeat.
  • Feel free to share.

This! Easiest Plan in the universe, and certainly less ignorant price wise.
 
Absolutely ludicrous pricing. I can't in my mind figure out how AT&T has over 100 million subscribers.

Because their networks SMOKES all others. ALL DATA POINTS, including sales and retention, demonstrate that fact.

People love to hate them. Unfortunately most of people hate AT&T because they expect AT&T to invest 100's of Billions of $$ pushing out and upgrading their networks and then they expect AT&T to provide a virtually free network.

Ignorance is abundant in this thread :D Wonder how many jokers on this forum complain about the unbelievably overpriced MBPr Line? Wait until the new MAC PRO comes out. Think anyone will care how incredibly gouged they are when they buy one? But no, when AT&T prices to compete and delivers the best network, hands down, they just love to hate.

Get a job folks... If you want the best network, pay for it. If you want Sprint or Verizon, quit your complaining and MOVE. We know they are hurting and could use your business!
 
Because their networks SMOKES all others. ALL DATA POINTS, including sales and retention, demonstrate that fact.

People love to hate them. Unfortunately most of people hate AT&T because they expect AT&T to invest 100's of Billions of $$ pushing out and upgrading their networks and then they expect AT&T to provide a virtually free network.

Ignorance is abundant in this thread :D Wonder how many jokers on this forum complain about the unbelievably overpriced MBPr Line? Wait until the new MAC PRO comes out. Think anyone will care how incredibly gouged they are when they buy one? But no, when AT&T prices to compete and delivers the best network, hands down, they just love to hate.

Get a job folks... If you want the best network, pay for it. If you want Sprint or Verizon, quit your complaining and MOVE. We know they are hurting and could use your business!

I suspect so many have AT&T simply because that's what the iPhone launched with. I would argue Verizon beats AT&T in most of the important aspects. And now to keep unlimited, you pretty much have to stick with your carrier. So a lot of us are stuck

Verizon isn't any cheaper than AT&T either.
 
That's madness. $500 for 50gb?
In the UK I'm with three mobile, unlimited, actual unlimited, no restrictions data (3k texts and 1k mins) for £30. Paid £50 for the iPhone 5.
 
Yeah because people really want to share 300 Mb of data across multiple devices.

You should talk to a baby boomer. I've got two parents and an aunt and uncle who both have iPhones. My aunt and uncle recently ditched their DSL connection, got 6GB monthly plus a MyFi and that's all they use for Internet between two phones and a couple of computers. If they use 300MB on their phones, I'd be shocked.

My parents are on AT&T and both have 200MB plans. Sometimes one will go over because, yes, that can go quickly. But I may get them to switch to this because it's only an extra $15 or so per month, which is the hit they take if they accidentally go over anyway. Plus this way they get unlimited texting, meaning they can send text messages to anybody instead of just fellow iPhone users.

Don't underestimate the selling power of retired old folks who like iPhones but don't use data like we do.
 
300 MB? really? people share that small of data.
i was interested in the 6GB data plan but the offer is too expensive, $35 per smartphone is really high.
 
AT&T is a for profit organization.

and that ****** is $50 per line, ridiculous! Good job AT&T, releasing more of nothing and screwing over your customers with bad deals

If AT&T wasn't, wouldn't their website be att.org? You don't have to be one of their customers - but, then again you get what you pay for.
 
Unlimited plans...

I suspect so many have AT&T simply because that's what the iPhone launched with. I would argue Verizon beats AT&T in most of the important aspects. And now to keep unlimited, you pretty much have to stick with your carrier. So a lot of us are stuck

Verizon isn't any cheaper than AT&T either.

Don't get on here and gripe about unlimited. What do you use - 1.3gb? 2.2gb?

I work for at&t, and 90% or more of customers who are on unlimited use less than a gigabyte, but will claw my eyes out if I try to tell them that mobile share is a better option. I regularly see this... REGULARLY:

1400 minutes, 5 smartphones: $119.96
Family messaging: $30.00
Five Unlimited Data Plans: $150.00 ($30.00 each)
$299.96 for 300 minutes used and a combined 2-3 gigabytes

-or-

$290.00 for 15 gigabyte shared plan, unlimited talk/text, and mobile hotspot on every phone.

Hell, having an iPad on the plan works out to the same price as before. Consumers are stupid, most people are stupid, and people fight for something because their friend or a family member said something was something. People are irrational, and never research or weigh options of what they need versus what they want or feel they're entitled to.

Do your homework before you post idiotic comments online.
 
$36 upgrade fee

A $36 Upgrade Fee. For what??? This is of course on top of the normal price for a subsidized iPhone plus the extra for upgrading early (which might be a little less with this 'program') How carriers are allowed to charge for these extra fees is criminal.

I work for at&t... This coming Friday will be my last day in a retail store because I'm SO sick of idiots like you. A $36 upgrade fee is charged because of the following reasons:
- Some customers literally come in every week to change their plan. That takes time for sales reps, who could be selling more products or services. Customers change rate plans in the middle of billing cycles, receive a pro-rated bill, get pissed off and don't listen to the explanation, and revert back to the original rate plan (hastily ignoring the fact that going back will result in pro-rating.) Then, a new bill comes, and the cycle repeats.
- At my store, at least 20 SIM cards are given out daily. They are not free to at&t, but they are free to customers with an active account. Some customers literally come in every week to get a new SIM card. They lose them, chew on them during class (not kidding), let their kids play with the phone (which means the SIM gets lost), people lose their phones, people buy used iPhone 4's which requires a smaller SIM than a ****** feature phone, etc.
- People try to rent phones. They get a Galaxy S4 because it's been shoved in their face that they need one... We say "how long have you had your iPhone? You'll hate it." (The opposite holds true, but not as strongly. 90%+ iPhone users hate Android once they've tried it, less than half of Android users hate iPhone once they've tried it.) We tell customers of the restocking fee of $35 and the 14 day trial period, there is a bright T-Mobile pink restocking fee sticker on the box, and the back of the receipt, again, shows this. They throw a tantrum like a three year old and refuse to pay it.

There are many, many reasons upgrade fees are charged, but mostly it comes back to the stupid stunts that customers try to pull every day.

And, to contrast the many reasons upgrade fees are charged, there is only ONE reason a customer should ever visit a carrier's retail location. To try out a phone before it is purchased. Everything, EVERY SINGLE THING customers come into my store for could be done online, over the phone, or at Best Buy, Walmart, or Amazon for far cheaper. But, people are needy, ignorant, and lazy.

So just pay your upgrade fee and shut the hell up, you ignorant wretch.

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Because their networks SMOKES all others. ALL DATA POINTS, including sales and retention, demonstrate that fact.

People love to hate them. Unfortunately most of people hate AT&T because they expect AT&T to invest 100's of Billions of $$ pushing out and upgrading their networks and then they expect AT&T to provide a virtually free network.

Ignorance is abundant in this thread :D Wonder how many jokers on this forum complain about the unbelievably overpriced MBPr Line? Wait until the new MAC PRO comes out. Think anyone will care how incredibly gouged they are when they buy one? But no, when AT&T prices to compete and delivers the best network, hands down, they just love to hate.

Get a job folks... If you want the best network, pay for it. If you want Sprint or Verizon, quit your complaining and MOVE. We know they are hurting and could use your business!

Who are you? Ralph De La Vega? Randall Stevenson? Clearly you must be top brass at at&t to have something positive to say about their network... It's so refreshing to have someone else who thinks post something with some thought behind it. Thank you, new friend... May you never drop a call or experience slow data connections.

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Thank you sweet Baby Jesus for nixing the T-Mobile purchase which is hopefully dead forever. I firmly believe AT&T would have ass-****** everyone in sight had that happened. Instead they will actually have to compete as more and more people wise-up and switch to other alternatives.

I pay T-Mobile about $100/mo (taxes incl) with my customer loyalty discounts for 4 lines. Unlimited voice, unlimited text, 500MB data (technically unlimited but throttled after 500). No contract.

I bought my own iPhone 4S and the three other 3GS for the others. Each 3GS (16gb) was about $80-$100 when I bought them used - got them "factory" unlocked for about $3 each via eBay. My 4S was about $800 (64 gb) new and unlocked. Will buy used 4S phones for the others once the new phones come out and prices drop further.

Since I work out of my home office or am often in wi-fi when I play poker (yes, that's my life), this works fine for me. I never come close to exceeding about 200 MB.

And when I travel overseas, I buy a pre-paid SIM card for my iPhone and just forward my USA mobile to my Vonage office phone and forward that to my int'l number. Works perfectly!

I'd much rather burn my money that give it to AT&T.

You bought your family members FOUR YEAR OLD TECHNOLOGY? How sweet of you... Oh, wait! You kept the best phone of the lot for yourself? You deserve a medal! Brilliant - you're comparing at&t to T-Mobile while using two and four year old technology on a network that doesn't work five miles from any Martin Luther King Blvd or Main Street in the country. You, sir, should write a book on how to do everything and retire from your current minimum wage job.

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Nope, not really true. The 3G/LTE devices may be true but when I had my iPhone4 I got throttled after 2gb. I also got a nastygram. I was NOT tethering. Garman maps, for some reason, kept trying to download the maps over and over again, not sure why. When I woke up the next day it had used over 2GB of data. It happened twice, about 8 months apart. I then deleted the app and never went back.

Throttling for at&t happens after 3GB for non-LTE phones, and 5GB for LTE phones. Do your homework and stop lying to make your situation sound worse than it was.

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Here is the gotcha... Go to AT&T's gophone.com and select your 'Absolute cheapest' plan. Step through AT&T's signup procedure. When you get to the part about selecting a phone, you can't select an iPhone. The 'Absolute cheapest' plan is only available on select phones. Apparently AT&T concluded that iPhone service is more costly to provide than is service to these other phones. Using the analogy from another poster, "AT&T will sell you gas for your car at $3 /gallon if you have an inexpensive car but will charge you $6 / gallon if you have a more expensive car." You are after all buying the 'car' upfront. Why the different price for the gas depending on the car model?

What the heck! I just checked gophone.com and now no iPhones are available even if you select the phone first.

Then get off your ass, drive to an Apple store/at&t store and buy an iPhone. Or a pawn shop. Or Craigslist. Or a friend. Or...
 
pay $50 to share your $20 data plan, wow.
t-mobile is the only carrier who thinks of our pockets before offering us a deal
 
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