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Verizon doesn't have EDGE data. In fact their 3G isn't to far from AT&T EDGE speeds.

I've used EDGE and I currently have the Droid. Verizon's EVDO is much faster than EDGE and is a hell of a lot more reliable than AT&T's 3G.
 
I would be absolutely happy if Apple is able to bring the iPhone to AT&T and Verizon simultaneously. I can just see the hoards of folks jumping ship from AT&T to Verizon and hopefully it would me less strain on the AT&T network for folks like me that will stay with them. I see AT&T agreeing to allow the iPhone not to be just exclusive to them anymore, rather than lose the iPhone to Verizon altogether. I just hope features and prices stay similar between networks.
 
It would clear up some of the congestion on AT&T, which would be great for me and others who like the network. Then we can see Verizon go through the same growing pains, which would be kind of funny. The iPhone uses a lot more data than the Droid, Nextus One or anything else Verizon has right now.

Are you kidding? AT&T has the worst network, Verizon has the best without doubt. You are truly a Mac snob. I love Mac as well but you have to be realistic, the only thing that is keeping AT&T competitive is the iphone. That would be the best thing for iphone is to pair up with Verizon.
 
Are you kidding? AT&T has the worst network, Verizon has the best without doubt. You are truly a Mac snob. I love Mac as well but you have to be realistic, the only thing that is keeping AT&T competitive is the iphone. That would be the best thing for iphone is to pair up with Verizon.


Are you kidding? AT&T is far from the worst network.
Keep buying those Verizon commercials.....

I've used EDGE and I currently have the Droid. Verizon's EVDO is much faster than EDGE and is a hell of a lot more reliable than AT&T's 3G.

Can you say slooooooooow
 
I hoep it loses its exclusivity and heads its way on over to Sprint. Best combo of price and awesome network coverage where I live.
 
Are you kidding? AT&T is far from the worst network.
Keep buying those Verizon commercials.....

Compared to Verizon, my bad. Having experienced both, can you say sloooooooo? You keep believing the commercials, try Verizon and if you are truly objective you will see the difference in one day.
 
I've used EDGE and I currently have the Droid. Verizon's EVDO is much faster than EDGE and is a hell of a lot more reliable than AT&T's 3G.

Verizon's EV-DO is as spread as far and wide as AT&T's EDGE network. Both have the same handicaps (can't talk and surf at same time); and yet one is considered 2.75G and the other 3G when their theoretical speeds are very close to each other.
 
Compared to Verizon, my bad. Having experienced both, can you say sloooooooo? You keep believing the commercials, try Verizon and if you are truly objective you will see the difference in one day.

I think the point is that anyone's mileage can vary on any network. Back home in Ann Arbor, I want to pummel my iPhone with a sledgehammer on a daily basis due to dropped calls and slow or non-existant data despite "full bars."

I've been on Oahu for a week and it is a whole different game here. Blows me away that I get 100x better service in the middle of the Pacific than in metro Detroit, but it makes sense when you think about it. The reliability of a phone is pretty well tied to the amount of congestion on the network.

We will see about Verizon when they have the same number of users as AT&T using a smartphone as data-heavy as the iPhone. And even than it's going to be totally dependent on where you are at any given time. I know plenty of people that have had zero connectivity issues with AT&T and plenty who have them. The same is true for VZN.
 
Where I live AT&T has the best coverage and fastest 3G speeds.
That's all that matters to me

You are exactly right, I just know that I travel all around the state and even though I am with Sprint now because of the radio for business, Verizon has had the best coverage where I travel. I would love to have the iPhone but as I said the radio is a must for me in my business. I hope and wish the iPhone becomes available for all the networks because we all know how awesome it is.
 
I see some replies that Apple wouldn't pre-announce a Verizon iPhone that won't be released until the March-June. But wouldn't it be worth it to Apple to throw a cold bucket of water on Palm and Google to keep all those potential buyers who might lock themselves into contracts in the next couple of months and keep them on the fence instead?
 
Are you kidding? AT&T has the worst network, Verizon has the best without doubt. You are truly a Mac snob. I love Mac as well but you have to be realistic, the only thing that is keeping AT&T competitive is the iphone. That would be the best thing for iphone is to pair up with Verizon.

No need to call me a "snob." I've been with AT&T/Cingular since 2003, and they've always been good for me, provided the best coverage, and the best customer service. I won't switch to anyone else. To each his own. Also, Cingular was the largest wireless provider (larger than Verizon) when ATT Wireless and Cingular merged, long before the iPhone, so AT&T was doing fine even before the iPhone. They won't be disappearing if Verizon gets the iPhone. In many ways, the iPhone is to blame for all the network congestion and the like, because it is such a data hog.

I see some replies that Apple wouldn't pre-announce a Verizon iPhone that won't be released until the March-June. But wouldn't it be worth it to Apple to throw a cold bucket of water on Palm and Google to keep all those potential buyers who might lock themselves into contracts in the next couple of months and keep them on the fence instead?

It may hurt iPhone sales between now and release, but you're right, I bet a lot less people put down money on the Nextus One and Palm Pixi if they know the iPhone is coming in a few months.
 
Verizon's EV-DO is as spread as far and wide as AT&T's EDGE network. Both have the same handicaps (can't talk and surf at same time); and yet one is considered 2.75G and the other 3G when their theoretical speeds are very close to each other.

You couldn't be more wrong. Verizons ACTUAL EV-DO speeds kill anything EDGE could ever hope for. I owned an iPhone and used EDGE. I now have a Droid. I would know.

Its more like Verizons EV-DO is not as fast as ATT's theoretical 3G speeds but it sure is as fast or faster than ATT's ACTUAL 3G speeds.

My Droid and my friends iPhone in a great ATT 3G area. And this was off peak time. Almost all iPhone users I know get around this speed or up to 1.8Mbps.

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Verizon's EV-DO is as spread as far and wide as AT&T's EDGE network. Both have the same handicaps (can't talk and surf at same time); and yet one is considered 2.75G and the other 3G when their theoretical speeds are very close to each other.

Really? Your telling me that EDGE is about as fast as EV-DO RevA?

Taken from the AT&T website.

"The AT&T EDGE network is available in more than 13,000 cities and towns and in areas along 40,000 miles of highways. It provides average data speeds between 75-135Kbps."

Taken from the Verizon website.

"3G brings wireless broadband data services to your mobile phone at average download speeds that range from 600 Kbps (that's 2.4 times faster than 254Kbps DSL modem connection) to 1.4Mbps."

So EDGE is advertised to be 75-135Kbps and EV-DO RevA is 600 Kbps to 1.4Mbps yet you say they are "about the same speed." Sorry I don't believe it.

I attached a picture of a speed test that I just did. Judge for yourself.
 

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No need to call me a "snob." I've been with AT&T/Cingular since 2003, and they've always been good for me, provided the best coverage, and the best customer service. I won't switch to anyone else. To each his own. Also, Cingular was the largest wireless provider (larger than Verizon) when ATT Wireless and Cingular merged, long before the iPhone, so AT&T was doing fine even before the iPhone. They won't be disappearing if Verizon gets the iPhone. In many ways, the iPhone is to blame for all the network congestion and the like, because it is such a data hog.



It may hurt iPhone sales between now and release, but you're right, I bet a lot less people put down money on the Nextus One and Palm Pixi if they know the iPhone is coming in a few months.



It wasn't meant to be inflammatory, I am a Mac snob! From my experience AT&T is inferior to Verizon as far as coverage. I have had most all of the services at some time or other and I have found that Verizon has the best coverage. In my opinion!
 
Would you need FCC approval in January for a phone most likely coming out in June?

Nope. You simply need your tests approved by the FCC by the day you start sales. One trick is to submit your results and ask that they not be approved until a certain date. (Because after approval the results are made public no matter what.)

The first iPhone began secret mass field trials a month before public FCC approval, btw.
 
I would laugh so hard if the iPhone does go to Verizon, they have to use the EDGE network with it for a year like us on AT&T had to

Except for some towers in rural areas, what Edge towers does Verizon have? And their current phones don't roam onto GSM towers anyway (except for, possibly, some foreign ones on "world" phones).
 
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