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AT&T May Never Raise Data Cap Again (Throttling UDP)
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I'm struggling with the decision to give up my 2 phones unlimited to the 30gb plan. I recently upgraded 1 line to the new iPhone and it hasn't been clearly explained to me how this will impact me in the future.
But .... He heard a rumor.
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Hopefully they won't be following Verizon because verizon makes you pay full price for the new phone if you want to keep unlimited.
And you may end up paying more for the cost of the plan and the phone over the term of your contract versus purchasing it through NEXT.
In that case, the subsidy may work against you.
BL.
In a lot of our cases it doesn't. Switching to mobile share would cause my monthly payments to go up, negating any savings Next could get me with that plan.
Also remember AT&T allows upgrades every 20 months again, which effectively makes the subsidy valued at $25/month (just like the Next discount)
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I've been searching Google without any luck finding anything like what you said. Hell, I can't even find the damn "fair usage policy" for some reason (only the "acceptable use policy" which doesn't cover throttling
Meh, I'm not too worried about it as I don't stream so I can easily survive by going to lower data prepaid plan.
Hell, even if I needed a ****load of data Cricket Wireless has a 10gb plan (w/ unlim talk & txt) for $55 a month
Wow. That's pretty awesome. After I pay off my phone, if Cricket still has that $60 10GB data plan I will definitely be switching over.
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I've been searching Google without any luck finding anything like what you said. Hell, I can't even find the damn "fair usage policy" for some reason (only the "acceptable use policy" which doesn't cover throttling
Here you go... AT&T changed their throttle policy
Here is the quote of their updated policy:
"...As a result of the AT&T network management process, customers on a 3G or 4G smartphone with an unlimited data plan who have exceeded 3 gigabytes of data in a billing period may experience reduced speeds when using data services at times and in areas that are experiencing network congestion. Customers on a 4G LTE smartphone will experience reduced speeds once their usage in a billing cycle exceeds 5 gigabytes of data. All such customers can still use unlimited data without incurring overage charges, and their speeds will be restored with the start of the next billing cycle...."
As long as Att allows us on older voice plans to add ghost lines at $10/line and get full subsidy and immediately put flip phone on that line (Verizon stopped allowing that August 24 2014). Keep line up for 24 months equals $240. It's certainly more advantageous for us on older plans to have that option.
We get a $450 iphone subsidy and end up paying roughly $240 (plus $40 activation fee). Since most of us get discounts. The taxes are a wash. Not bad. Saves some of us $150 or so to have ghost lines that we use to alternative iphone upgrades every year.
We get a $450 iphone subsidy and end up paying roughly $240 (plus $40 activation fee). Since most of us get discounts. The taxes are a wash. Not bad. Saves some of us $150 or so to have ghost lines that we use to alternative iphone upgrades every year.
This is a great idea. How do you add the dumb phone on? Do you call them after you receive the iPhone or right after adding the line? Are there any prorated data charges?
Watch: AT&T sends you a text "Your area is congested. Sorry for the throttle bro".
Prove that it isn't. They can throttle (and will throttle) whenever they want since THEY define what "congested" means, not you, and not by any definition they post.
AT&T updated that memo for the US GOVERNMENT, because inquiries have been occuring into tethering. That's all.
They throttled me every time I hit 5GB. Didn't matter where. Once you get flagged, you get throttled. Maybe it hasn't happened to you yet, but it will.
The rumor I hear is that after October 31, 5GB will become a hard cap and EVERYONE will be throttled afterwards. Maybe they'll let a handful of people on farms not be throttled, just to have a few to point to when asked, but don't bank on being unthrottled to last much longer if you're one of the lucky ones now.
I wasn't, so 40GB was an easy call.
Prove that it isn't. They can throttle (and will throttle) whenever they want since THEY define what "congested" means, not you, and not by any definition they post.
AT&T updated that memo for the US GOVERNMENT, because inquiries have been occuring into tethering. That's all.
They throttled me every time I hit 5GB. Didn't matter where. Once you get flagged, you get throttled. Maybe it hasn't happened to you yet, but it will.
The rumor I hear is that after October 31, 5GB will become a hard cap and EVERYONE will be throttled afterwards. Maybe they'll let a handful of people on farms not be throttled, just to have a few to point to when asked, but don't bank on being unthrottled to last much longer if you're one of the lucky ones now.
I wasn't, so 40GB was an easy call.
I thought they changed the upgrade policy last year so that you could only upgrade after 24 months and not 20 months anymore.
They changed it back to 20 months recently. Admittedly that doesn't help a lot of us, since most of us would probably wait the extra 4 months to get an iPhone when it comes out
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That's worded in a way that suggests only 3G/4G phones are throttled based on congestion. LTE phones appear to have a hard cap of 5GB based on that wording.
Nice summary
Decent article about UDP and Data share plans.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrog...nt-bite-back-as-data-prices-continue-to-fall/
Decent article about UDP and Data share plans.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markrog...nt-bite-back-as-data-prices-continue-to-fall/
I feel bad for everyone that's jumping ship to sign up for the "double mobile share" from their grandfathered unlimited. When it comes time to get a new phone they are going to be pissed and AT&T will cash in and get them to finance it through their "Next" plan. So their bill will be significantly more than what they had. I don't see many of these people paying $1000 for a new iPhone....
I guess I'm justifying it with the plan that I have. I have five lines on a family plan that cost me $170 a month. All five lines have unlimited data and for me to switch plans to one of the new data plans would cost me a lot more especially when we upgrade the phone's, having no subsidy. I'm quite sure there are thousands of people that have the old family sharing plans still active, and in this case the new plans would cost them a lot more.
Members of my family plan are not up to upgrading our phones again anytime soon. We all have the Note 2's, iPhone 5's, and S3's from two years ago in 2012, and we will all be off contract by November 2014.
Our previous upgrade before 2012 was when we all picked up the iPhone 3's back in 2008 that gave us the UDP. Looking back, we ended up subsidizing the iPhone 3's over four years, instead of two, because we all skipped the iPhone 3s, 4, and 4s.
We dropped our UDP for the MSV plan, because ...
1. We are all willing to wait for "the next big thing" until around 2016.
2. Our peak combined data usage has never gone over 20GB in one month since 2008.
3. Our combined monthly data usage average since 2012 is around 15GB, and dropping.
4. Our cellular data usage is dropping because we seem to have wifi available at more places than before, such as work, school, hotels, stores, malls, and restaurants. We also have Xfinity internet at home, so we can connect to xfinitywifi when available elsewhere, and not just attwifi.
5. We can now use the personal hotspots on all five lines for our wifi only tablets and laptops, when local wifi is not available.
6. We feel that the shared data plans will just get cheaper and\or have larger pools of data for the same price due to market pressure between the carriers.
7. We feel that there will be at least one or more carriers that will be offering UDP's if we ever would want it again, or just to "feel good" and say that we have UDP again.
8. We just recently started receiving a small FAN discount, so our monthly payment with taxes and fees went from $340 to $297 with the FAN discount, and it is now at $220 with the MSV plan.
We will no longer be "subsidizing" our out of contract phones over the next two years, and will be saving a total of $120 a month going forward. We will have saved $2,880 over the next two years to help pay for the next big things, the cheaper previous big things, hand me down big things, used big things, or refurbished big things around 2016. In the meantime, we will enjoy the convenience of tethering as needed and up to 40GB unthrottled.
Yeah, good point. I didn't research it at all.....I just saw flashy things in the store and said yes.
Do you even generalizations bro?