I hate AT&T so much. There's no reason for them to not enable MMS on EDGE iPhones. Apple probably wanted them to, but, this is probably why they didn't/couldn't do it. I don't know what the hell I pay them so damn much for a month.
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AT&T Nervous About Upcoming iPhone MMS Launch?
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Personally, I think everyone needs to CHILL (picture scene from Say Anything). There is a burden to having the most consumer friendly device on the planet... people tend to use features FAR more often than they did if you give the SAME features to lesser devices (aka "feature phones"). I've never sent MMS messages (or cared to look into it), because I'd always had it confirmed that there was a veritable HORROR-SHOW of fees for those who did (without an unlimited data plan attached to your account).
With the iPhone being inseparable from its unlimited data plan, AT&T has potentially shot themselves in the foot regarding the amount of image/video texting people will inevitably do... but furthered the goal of moving mobile services where they NEED to go.
I think AT&T has taken a bold step, needs to be done right, and we'll see how well it pays off for them. I'll say this much though... people without data plans will quickly see how well their carrier handles unsolicited MMS messages from friends and family. One video, without a text plan, could cost someone in the neighborhood of $10 easily.
~ CB
With the iPhone being inseparable from its unlimited data plan, AT&T has potentially shot themselves in the foot regarding the amount of image/video texting people will inevitably do... but furthered the goal of moving mobile services where they NEED to go.
I think AT&T has taken a bold step, needs to be done right, and we'll see how well it pays off for them. I'll say this much though... people without data plans will quickly see how well their carrier handles unsolicited MMS messages from friends and family. One video, without a text plan, could cost someone in the neighborhood of $10 easily.
~ CB
You clearly have NO concept of the time it takes to plan, coordinate, and implement infrastructure upgrades/changes. 3 months is NOTHING, hell a year isn't even that long when you are talking about such projects.
Well, I have 2 iPhones. Mine and my wives. I would have to say that 2 years ago AT&T really sucked. They have gotten better, but I am just now able to get a bar(maybe 2) in my house or outside. AT&T is less than a mile away where I get 5 Bars. I own a service company and do drop a lot of calls, but maybe its just where I go on the highways and such. "less bars in my places"
I doubt Apple wanted them to. Knowing how Apple operates they probably DIDN'T want MMS on the original iPhone in order to entice people to upgrade.
I think we should all withhold our criticism until we hear from Seth the Blogger guy. I'm sure Seth will take some time away from his busy blogging schedule, to provide us all with a perfectly acceptable reason why we don't get the services for which we pay.
Seth? Seth? Seth?
Seth? Seth? Seth?
I can already see the first outage. This why AT&T should have rolled out MMS over a week or two. The network will be hit hard at first because everyone wants to try it out. If they had just released it to a new part of the country each day over the course of a week or two they could have escaped this. The bulk of the first day messages will be people sending pics for no reason. Once users get over that initial use, the numbers will drop.
I'm not the most techie guy in the world, but what I don't get is this: iPhone users use WAY more data on the AT&T networks than any other phone... with the full HTML web browsing, Apps, uploading videos to YouTube, push email etc. Why is adding MMS such a big deal for the servers? Does the MMS load run on a different pipeline than the Data? You'd think they would be prepared by now with the loads of data iPhone users are already using.
Maybe I'm missing something...
I'm probably not going to use it too often... Most of my friends have iPhones too, so we just email back and forth...it's simple enough.
Maybe I'm missing something...
I'm probably not going to use it too often... Most of my friends have iPhones too, so we just email back and forth...it's simple enough.
Yeah..and then everyone on here would be crying and throwing tantrums about other people getting a service they don't get yet.
Gee, I wonder if maybe they should have had MMS enabled from the beginning. Then it would have been a steady increase.
Also, I'm failing to understand how MMS on the iPhone is any different from MMS on a normal phone. What if the iPhone had never came to be and there were millions of normal phones with MMS enabled?
Also, I'm failing to understand how MMS on the iPhone is any different from MMS on a normal phone. What if the iPhone had never came to be and there were millions of normal phones with MMS enabled?
Great, just what we need...
<sarcasm>I can hardly wait for AT&T's already wonderful service level to get even better when MMS is activated. </sarcasm> Now if people would stop Sexting then maybe there would be enough bandwidth left to place a phone call.
I think this just points out how carefully balanced the network was by pure accident. It worked only because it did, not because it was designed to have any spare capacity.
Can you imagine the hoops some poor network traffic analyst has to jump through to get corporate approval to install additional bandwidth at location X,Y? It has to be horrible. Glad I don't work for them.
<sarcasm>I can hardly wait for AT&T's already wonderful service level to get even better when MMS is activated. </sarcasm> Now if people would stop Sexting then maybe there would be enough bandwidth left to place a phone call.
I think this just points out how carefully balanced the network was by pure accident. It worked only because it did, not because it was designed to have any spare capacity.
Can you imagine the hoops some poor network traffic analyst has to jump through to get corporate approval to install additional bandwidth at location X,Y? It has to be horrible. Glad I don't work for them.
Yeah..and then everyone on here would be crying and throwing tantrums about other people getting a service they don't get yet.
Of course, but probably no more crying than we will see when nobody has MMS during the first outage.
It's so frustrating to see ATT doing all this at the last minute when they have overcharged iphone users ever since it was rolled out.
Some of that extra cash they got from us should have upgraded the systems. They decided not to do everything before and now they are crying.
I'm sorry why the heck have we been charged twenty dollars a month for only text, when any other att customer with another phone gets txt and sms for the same price. That extra ten a month from millions of customers would have paid for any upgrades they needed.
If they cannot or will not do what is needed break the exclusive contract and let the others get it a try. At the very least it will split iphone users in three.
I love the phone, I never liked ATT. I actually was never an ATT customer, they bought everything and made me one.
Scott
Some of that extra cash they got from us should have upgraded the systems. They decided not to do everything before and now they are crying.
I'm sorry why the heck have we been charged twenty dollars a month for only text, when any other att customer with another phone gets txt and sms for the same price. That extra ten a month from millions of customers would have paid for any upgrades they needed.
If they cannot or will not do what is needed break the exclusive contract and let the others get it a try. At the very least it will split iphone users in three.
I love the phone, I never liked ATT. I actually was never an ATT customer, they bought everything and made me one.
Scott
I highly doubt that. Apple has really been VERY accommodating to PPC users since the switch. Yes, Snow Leopard did cut a lot of PPC users out of the loop as far as having the latest OS goes, but, so far they've continued to support PPC versions of applications, and utilize UBs with their programs. Besides that Snow Leopard really is a mostly under the hood update. The only thing I've really noticed and missed between using Snow Leopard on my MacBook and Leopard on my PowerMac G4 is the put back from trash button Apple stupidly ignored for so long. I think the ball is in AT&T's court on this one, since they apparently can't even handle the 3G users alone.
People are sending pictures over the network now with email on smartphones. Bits are bits. What's the big deal? I'm really tired of hearing about AT&T's problems. They force you to buy a data plan with a smartphone, and then they complain that their network is overloaded. WTF??
I think you are absolutely correct. All three would have had the same issues.
None were willing to put enough into the infrustruture to keep everythign running smooth.
I think they should remove the exclusive rights and let all the users move back to eachs original providor. That will lesson the load with att and the other two companys will just get there original customers back.
Then maybe they all can start upgrading there systems at the same time.
Thank you for answering my question as to why MMS is such a big deal on the iPhone. Every other phone on their service can send MMS and all other similar devices on their network can do things like Slingplayer.
I guess I'm wondering if we would all have this problem if we all had the HTC Fuze, LG Incite, or Samsung Jack in our hands. I know all the messaging phones don't have MMS problems. I mean their are countless phones on their network that if we had in our hands wouldn't be giving us problems. I know where you are going with the higher res pics but it can't be that simple or the question is if there is a work around to send lower res. I don't know.
