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AT&T Nervous About Upcoming iPhone MMS Launch?

skellener said:
People are sending pictures over the network now with email on smartphones. Bits are bits. What's the big deal? I'm really tired of hearing about AT&T's problems. They force you to buy a data plan with a smartphone, and then they complain that their network is overloaded. WTF??
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I think there network will be fine after the newness of a new feature wears off. I have been using the mms and it is great to finally receive a picture without going into email but I am sure it will not be used all the time like text.


ATT is all for the profit margin. They wont do anything to jepordize it.
I dont know if it is because they were almost out of existence and do not want that to happen again or they are just plain greedy.


It's just sad that even areas in africa had mms for the iphone before us.
ATT made us (USA) look like a laughing stock to the rest of the world.
 
hms84 said:
You poor Americans... Not even MMS???
I really don't understand why those Telecom companies hasn't been sued yet!! :confused::confused::confused::confused:
And I've been saying STC is very bad :p:p
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We have had mms for years, ATT just locked that feature out on the iphone because there network is not very stable.

I am using is now and it works fine. I system works much better then a cheap 30 dollar phone that had mms.

What is STC?
 
bushido said:
europe can handle live tv streams on the iPhone over the net yet the US cant even handle mms

welcome to the year 2002 AT&T!
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ATT cant handle it, not the USA.
ATT got exclusive rights, actually cingular did, but unfortunately ATT bought them and they never had a good network. They still have not figured out how to seemlessly merge all the cell companies hardware together.

They are over there head. It will get better, but they are moving to slow.
 
scottnj1966 said:
ATT is all for the profit margin. They wont do anything to jepordize it.
I dont know if it is because they were almost out of existence and do not want that to happen again or they are just plain greedy.
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What company would intentionally do something to jeopardize it!? Pretty sure neither of the reasons you gave for this adherence to maintaining a profit margin is valid. Here is why they do it: It's a publicly traded company that is held accountable by shareholders. Period.
 
hms84 said:
You poor Americans... Not even MMS???
I really don't understand why those Telecom companies hasn't been sued yet!! :confused::confused::confused::confused:
And I've been saying STC is very bad :p:p
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bushido said:
europe can handle live tv streams on the iPhone over the net yet the US cant even handle mms

welcome to the year 2002 AT&T!
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scottnj1966 said:
I think there network will be fine after the newness of a new feature wears off. I have been using the mms and it is great to finally receive a picture without going into email but I am sure it will not be used all the time like text.


ATT is all for the profit margin. They wont do anything to jepordize it.
I dont know if it is because they were almost out of existence and do not want that to happen again or they are just plain greedy.


It's just sad that even areas in africa had mms for the iphone before us.
ATT made us (USA) look like a laughing stock to the rest of the world.
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I agree. I find that so many people in the US now are so lazy, so comfortable resting on our laurels & just "what's in it for me?" capitalists, other countries are passing the US by in terms of technology. I frequently read on these boards how other countries already have MMS on their iPhones, and how so many people have fiber optic internet connections throughout their country, but in the US, nothing. The big tech companies like AT&T are too apathetic to upgrade their services thinking "upgrading our services will be too expensive & we won't get anything back." Well, if they make their services comparable to other countries', they'll probably get a lot more customers!
 
mister880 said:
...They should charge an extra $3.00 a month for the service and people who really want it would sign up and pay. People who don't need it or use it often could go pay per use.
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Even better, they should reduce our monthly bill by $3 unless we want MMS.
 
guzhogi said:
I agree. I find that so many people in the US now are so lazy, so comfortable resting on our laurels & just "what's in it for me?" capitalists, other countries are passing the US by in terms of technology. I frequently read on these boards how other countries already have MMS on their iPhones, and how so many people have fiber optic internet connections throughout their country, but in the US, nothing. The big tech companies like AT&T are too apathetic to upgrade their services thinking "upgrading our services will be too expensive & we won't get anything back." Well, if they make their services comparable to other countries', they'll probably get a lot more customers!
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I believe the iPhone in Australia is on 3 companies. You can buy unlocked ones here in New Zealand. We can get internet anywhere. (We have our own satellite up in orbit, 2MBS if we really want) We can completely ignore the mess that is telecom if we really wanted too.

Good ol USA huh?
 
scottnj1966 said:
ATT cant handle it, not the USA.
ATT got exclusive rights, actually cingular did, but unfortunately ATT bought them and they never had a good network. They still have not figured out how to seemlessly merge all the cell companies hardware together.

They are over there head. It will get better, but they are moving to slow.
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Actually Cingular bought AT&T Wireless. Then SBC (who owned Cingular) bought out AT&T and changed Cingulars name to at&t.
 
Xian Zhu Xuande said:
I know it sucks for us as iPhone owners, but comments like this are probably leveled out of willful ignorance of the situation. The problem with the iPhone is that we are far more interested in these multimedia activities, such as browsing the web or using something like MMS, than any other type of phone user out there. iPhone users are going to be taking much more photographs and sending much more photographs than any other type of phone user. Now the fact that there are so many iPhone users comes into play, combined with a spike when the feature first becomes available, and AT&T really does have a legitimate hurdle to overcome.
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So their network can handle people watching youtube, and browsing the internet but can't handle a text with a picture or video? There are way fewer iphones out there than regular phones. They send pictures and video all day long. ATT has dragged their a$$es with the iphone since day one. It will not surprise me with they end up like IBM and learn that they will no longer have apple's business at a apple presentation.
 
if I remember right, MMS is like SMS. They don't use the data side of the network. You can disable a phone from using the internet and MMS and SMS will still work.

I know this because my daughter wanted to text and use an old Blackjack, removed the data information and MMS and SMS still worked without the cost of the data network.

The voice side of the network is STILL AT&T weakest link.
 
diamond.g said:
Actually Cingular bought AT&T Wireless. Then SBC (who owned Cingular) bought out AT&T and changed Cingulars name to at&t.
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That's right. Since I got my AT&T Wireless phone in 2004, the logo on the statement changed twice, first to Cingular with a slogan "AT&T Wireless is now Cingular", and then back to AT&T with a slogan "Cingular is now the new AT&T" :)
 
DaKyng said:
I don't think AT&T is saying they won't be able to handle the regular MMS traffic, but the massive influx of traffic caused by iPhone users trying out MMS. It's highly likely that even those who have no plans to use MMS in the future are going to at least try it out tomorrow, overloading the servers. This would happen with any carrier. Also, remember the release of the iPhone 3G and 2.0. Apple had big problems with their servers because of the increased traffic. The same thing is going to happen to AT&T's servers tomorrow, possibly on a much larger scale.

I'm not a fan of AT&T either, but it's unfair to say that any issue is because of their incompetence and that Verizon/Sprint/T-Mobile or whatever wouldn't be faced with a similar situation if one of them were the exclusive carrier instead.
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I blame apple as well. AT&T should have had this from the get go that way they don't have to worry about all the iPhone users using it all at once. If they had it already this wouldn't be a problem.


James
 
I really do not understand how if this possible: AT&T unable to work out a decent network in US! That's not Iraq, for God's sake!
I was videoconferencing on a phone in Italy, in 2005, when my wife was in a hospital. Come on!

And I can't understand, neither, how Apple can stitch with them...is not an overall better carrier in US?
 
I don't like to hear the words "rushing around" anywhere near the same article as "We are delaying it til the end of summer, Oh, wait better give us three more days". Total bs.

Absolutely pathetic.

SFStateStudent said:
I think I hear footsteps; yes, it's VERIZON looking over AT&T's shoulder and laughing....:D
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Verizon had their chance.
 
johnmcboston said:
Funny, I have trouble getting it to work in downtown Boston. If you're in a location with a lot of people, like South Station or Tech Square, you have problems. Phone calls may work, but all your data requests time out. I can only assume it's a capacity issue that they don't feel like addressing...
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I know EXACTLY how you feel... I was at a theme park for all day Saturday a few weeks ago, theme park was only half full (and in the middle of no where in Ohio)... and the data network didn't work for 6 HOURS. At the end of the day, when it was getting dark, it started working again. BS AT&T!
 
AT&T should be nervous. I plan on sending a years worth of MMS on Friday to catch up for all the time I've lost. I get what I pay for, one way or another! :D
 
I refuse to give AT&T any more money. I don't text, I use IM. I don't MMS, I use email for photos. Benefits of having a smartphone in the first place.
 
comradesnarky said:
I hate AT&T so much. There's no reason for them to not enable MMS on EDGE iPhones. Apple probably wanted them to, but, this is probably why they didn't/couldn't do it. I don't know what the hell I pay them so damn much for a month.
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The Original iPhone can do MMS. Apple said the hardware can't support it so people would run out and by the new iPhone 3G/3GS! AT&T had nothing to do with the lack of MMS on the Original iPhone.
 
jav6454 said:
I already have MMS, so for me it'd over already.



Per phone, so imagine 22 million pixeled images at the same time. Analogy time: This is like complaining a Rain Gutter overflows with a rain drop. Obvious it won't, but add a few more rain drops, see what happens.
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Do you know how many people in china and japan use data services on a daily basis?

AT&T are pathetic.
 
I think people fail to realize that ending the AT&T exclusive _would_ make the overall iPhone experience better. Here is why.

Right now, everyone in the US (well, except for unlockers) is using AT&T. They are a clear bottle neck that can't handle the current load of iPhone users. Lets say T-Mobile were to get the iPhone. They couldn't handle it exclusively, they would crumble even faster then AT&T did. BUT, many people would leave AT&T to go for T-Mobile. Reducing the strain on the AT&T network and distributing the load across multiple carriers.

Each area has a different dominate carrier. In the Bay Area AT&T is presently doing awful. I am not totally sure who would be better, but with an option to switch I sure as hell would try to find a better carrier. If my next choice sucks, I will just switch again until I find a fit.

Will Verizon get the iPhone ? Sure, only a question of time. Will they get it before they switch their network to 4G ? Very doubtful. Adding CDMA into the iPhone isn't a quick and easy task. Its not a software update, it would REQUIRE a hardware change. Its something that is just not worth Apples time. Adding a separate network for a small handful of customers adds to development time and QA time. I say small handful because on the global scale Verizon is the only company they would offer a CDMA phone to. CDMA is on its way out the door. Regardless if it maybe or may not be better, the rest of the world is using GSM and Verizon is going to conform.
 
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