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Shouldn't this plan be called the 22GB plan not unlimited? What's unlimited about being speed throttled at 22GB?

You aren't even guaranteed no throttling until 22GB. All you need to do is be in an area that AT&T considers "congested."

These plans are seriously over-rated, IMHO.
 
Be warned, I've seen several other threads where a bunch of people notice performance issues after switching from the grandfathered plans to the new Unlimited Plus plan.

https://forums.att.com/t5/Data-Mess...athered-data-plan-still-the-best/td-p/5503976

In this thread for example, a bunch of people describe experiencing almost identical issues, while 3 specific users respond to every single complaint with the same generic answers that the plans are "NO DIFFERENT" and that something must be wrong with their phone. It becomes so obvious, other users start calling the 3 users out on it.
What are you even talking about??? There aren't "a bunch of people describe experiencing almost identical issues", there's one person asking about the grandfathered plan.

If the plans are the "exact same", AND the new ones are CHEAPER... then why is AT&T raising the price of just these grandfathered plans AGAIN ($15/month increase in under 2 years)???
Because people like you are willing to absorb the price increase without question.

I'm sure tons of people will tell you that "It's the same thing but BETTER! Look at all these new features!!!", but there is something going on here, and AT&T isn't being transparent about it.
Chemtrails in the sky!! But seriously, what's your point?? You claim something is going on, but you can't point to anything, nor do you have any proof.
 
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I'm so confused. ATT went back to offering unlimited plans (thanks T-Mobile!) with throttling starting at 22GB. From what I've seen, ATT also throttled the "grandfathered" unlimited plans. Soooo, what's the point of staying on a grandfathered plan at a higher price?
Because to give up their og phone plan would be giving in to the system. Gotta stick it to the man.
 
This is why I left AT&T after 13 years for T-Mobile over 3 years ago.

Because why? Because TMobile said they will never raise the rate on the plan you have for eternity? :rolleyes:

Do you regularly ditch your service providers because they raise rates?
 
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If the plans are the "exact same", AND the new ones are CHEAPER... then why is AT&T raising the price of just these grandfathered plans AGAIN ($15/month increase in under 2 years)???

Because they want to encourage people to move off a 15-year-old legacy data plan, without forcing them to do so and pissing them off. Don't underestimate the power of accountants that want to keep the books cleaned up.

I'm sure tons of people will tell you that "It's the same thing but BETTER! Look at all these new features!!!", but there is something going on here, and AT&T isn't being transparent about it.

Well, this is easy, because there are only a handful of things that could be different:

1) Data speed: there's no indication that grandfathered UDPs are experiencing faster peak speeds, nor would there be any reason to.
2) Throttling/deprioritization: they advertise that all unlimited plans experience this at 22GB. What would be ATT's incentive to not do this to the grandfathered plans if they've already ripped off the bandage and told the customers it was being done?
3) Price: newer is cheaper--not sure I see anyone even arguing this one.

So what is it that you think they're not being transparent about? What is the clear advantage of the old UDP? If one exists, it should be easy to articulate.
 
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This is a class-action lawsuit. How can you modify a "grandfathered" plan?

There is no requirement to grandfather anything. They could just yank the plans entirely and move people to modern plans.

I have the best plan ever offered by AT&T, Mobile Share Value 10GB+10GB bonus+1GB Canadian Roaming Bonus, but they could yank it tomorrow. They seem to leave metered plans alone, as they keep customers who have been around forever. If they stopped grandfathering plans, I'd be much more likely to port to T-Mobile and give it a shot, or try Xfinity Mobile, but I'd rather hang onto the plan that I've got, since you can't get anything as good these days.

AT&T's system is completely out of control for the complexity of various plans. Some have Roam NA, some don't, some can get certain bonuses, others can't, they are now on the fourth iteration of the Mobile Share family, it went from Mobile Share to Mobile Share Value to Mobile Share Advantage, to Mobile Share Flex, which are the current plans, but you can apparently still get Mobile Share Advantage through Retentions. I got the Canadian Roaming Bonus through Retentions, but apparently we lose that if we use International Day Pass. It's a complete mess. On top of that, they now have had three different Unlimited plans, two of which are currently available. They've made it ridiculously confusing on purpose.
 
I'm so confused. ATT went back to offering unlimited plans (thanks T-Mobile!) with throttling starting at 22GB. From what I've seen, ATT also throttled the "grandfathered" unlimited plans. Soooo, what's the point of staying on a grandfathered plan at a higher price?
Mostly because they promised unlimited and could go away from the other unlimited plans and they don’t grandfather those. Highly unlikely though to not have unlimited anymore.
 
Wow, $45 for unlimited data. Just goes to show how expensive cellular service is in Canada. Last holiday season one of the cell providers put out a BYOD promotion with 10 GB of data. All the other providers quickly moved to match. The promotion led to 5 hour wait times all providers with people trying to switch plans. I ended up switching carriers just to get the plan after being on hold with my current provider for 3 hours and then getting disconnected.
 
Shouldn't this plan be called the 22GB plan not unlimited? What's unlimited about being speed throttled at 22GB?

Oh please...not this stale old agrument again. NO CELL PROVIDER offers truly unlimited without some sort of imposed limit (which if you actually read what people say, they rarely if ever get throttled anyways). ATT=22GB. TM=50GB. Verizon=22GB.
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Wow, $45 for unlimited data. Just goes to show how expensive cellular service is in Canada. Last holiday season one of the cell providers put out a BYOD promotion with 10 GB of data. All the other providers quickly moved to match. The promotion led to 5 hour wait times all providers with people trying to switch plans. I ended up switching carriers just to get the plan after being on hold with my current provider for 3 hours and then getting disconnected.

How expensive it is there? You didn't say...
 
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What are you even talking about??? There aren't "a bunch of people describe experiencing almost identical issues", there's one person asking about the grandfathered plan.

Because people like you are willing to absorb the price increase without question.


Chemtrails in the sky!! But seriously, what's your point?? You claim something is going on, but you can't point to anything, nor do you have any proof.

A. That thread is 10 pages long, and there are more than a dozen people that experienced problems.

Edit: My bad, I put the wrong link. https://forums.att.com/t5/Account-F...-data-vs-new-Unlimited-Plus-Plan/td-p/5102836 This is the link I was referring to.

B. No, actually there are becoming fewer and fewer people like me willing to absorb the price increase. Just look how many users in this very thread or the other one I posed are talking about switching to T-Mobile or somewhere else because of the price increases. They are LOSING customers by raising these prices, and the ones they keep are supposedly paying LESS than they were on their grandfathered plans. What an absolutely absurd claim to make.

C. Funny, that's the same tactic those 3 pro-AT&T users in that thread used! Called anyone who questioned AT&T a "tinfoil hat wearer". And now here we are again, being compared to a chemtrail believer because I have the audacity to question why AT&T has been trying to get RID of grandfathered in unlimited plans for years now? Absolutely hilarious.
 
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I got off my grandfathered plan last year because the new one was cheaper and included hot spot. If they change the new plan I'll switch carriers. I had an atrocious experience switching phones this year so i wouldn't bat an eyelash to say peace. They are the worst.

I have the grandfathered plan and thought about switching to the new unlimited plus - mainly for the mobile hotspot feature.

Is it worth it?? Initially, i was told service was slower on it for some crazy reason. Have contemplated switching for a while now - i just feel there is something good about keeping it (but dont know for sure).
 
Because why? Because TMobile said they will never raise the rate on the plan you have for eternity? :rolleyes:

Do you regularly ditch your service providers because they raise rates?

If you can find a cheaper rate why state with the same company?

They raise prices but what actual benefit are you going to feel on your end of things. They constantly tell you it's done to keep high quality services and add features, none of which occur except when a new bandwidth is created every so often.
 
If this is the case, then why are they raising the price of the grandfathered unlimited plans AGAIN? If we are already paying more money than the new unlimited plans they offer which are "better", then why try to price us out?

Because there are costs associated with keeping the plan around that you're not privy to. Specifically, what is it that you think you're getting that they both can't tell you about and couldn't change without you knowing? It's not price, so it must be speed or throttling/deprioritization, any of which should be remarkably easy to prove.

You kinda act like there was some Super Secret feature unlocked on your phone the day you signed up for the old UDP, and that they can't just change it on a whim. The same verbiage that allows them to change the price allows them to change features or discontinue the plan at their pleasure.
 
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Everyone gets this wrong -- they MAY throttle you. I routinely consume 300+GB monthly on my AT&T plan - never get throttled....its really does depend on on the congestion of the network.

I get throttled monthly and am nowhere near 300gb - which is ridiculous btw. How is it even possible to use 300gb a month? Do you stream TV on your phone for a living? LOL...
 
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Shouldn't this plan be called the 22GB plan not unlimited? What's unlimited about being speed throttled at 22GB?

The Plan is not unlimited high speed data. It is unlimited data. There is a distinction there and I apologize if you cannot understand that simple fact. You can start a data connection on 12:00 on the first of the month and at 11:59 on the last day you will still be transferring data without charge.
 
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