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Regarding iOS 5 and Mac OS X 10.7:

We will see probably a public preview of Lion on the WWDC. This is from an Apple e-mail:
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It makes sense to optimize Lion for Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. It saves future development costs.
 
Strange that Apple would potentially lose lots of customers with no new iPhone this summer..

I was looking forward to another crazy all nighter at the mall a couple thousand other nuts, might not be able to do it in the fall.. What a bummer..

Are they trying to steer people into Android phones???
 
Absolutely correct...not June or July...

August 1st.

Who really cares when it is released...the iPhone 4 is still an amazing piece of hardware...still "wows" me everytime I pick it up.

The most important point...we know a new one will be released...guaranteed. Can't say that about Blackberry or others these days...
 
I'm not so sure the next iPhone will look like the current iphone 4. It probably will be, but i don't know.. They're delaying it and with the white one just released (which of course looks the same).. They've handed out prototype A5 iphones to developers just to make sure the new design won't be leaked. I think Apple could come out with a surprise regarding the design of the next iPhone.
 
Good so.
It's the return of the Mac, Steve Jobs said it so, so let's focus on Macs now and iPhone in second plan for this year at least; it's already a huge success, so...

I don't think Apple can continuously afford to do that though. Everyone can see that Android is making a stand and a strong one at that. Improving market share more than others still while some are even declining. Spec wise, Android phones are the highest on the market with quite a few dual core handsets out right now.

I'm personally waiting for the Galaxy S 2 to hit the states so I can upgrade to that.
 
i would rather have a better feature and higher quality phone than just squeezing into the usual deadline. If apple thinks it is necessary to push back the release than I think there is always some reason behind it.
 
I'm not so sure the next iPhone will look like the current iphone 4. It probably will be, but i don't know.. They're delaying it and with the white one just released (which of course looks the same).. They've handed out prototype A5 iphones to developers just to make sure the new design won't be leaked. I think Apple could come out with a surprise regarding the design of the next iPhone.

It wouldn't make sense for the iPhone 5 to have the same design as the iPhone 4. Think about it. You have two great phones out now, the iPhone 4 and the new white iPhone 4. Apple's main goal is to make money. With that many phones sold, would it make more sense to sell another phone that looks exactly the same as the one many people have or give them something completely new to upgrade or buy off contract to?
 
Although I think the Rep is probably correct, their source of information is likely to be from forums such as this.

I know product managers at a telecoms company and they themselves do not get light of new products until very close to the release date
 
While it may be true that the new iPhone won't be out until Sept, I doubt the cs rep has any official information or notification.
 
It wouldn't make sense for the iPhone 5 to have the same design as the iPhone 4. Think about it. You have two great phones out now, the iPhone 4 and the new white iPhone 4. Apple's main goal is to make money. With that many phones sold, would it make more sense to sell another phone that looks exactly the same as the one many people have or give them something completely new to upgrade or buy off contract to?

Last quarter... people were buying iPhones at a rate of over 200,000 per day. It doesn't matter what they look like... or what time of year it is... Apple will sell iPhones.

Even if the iPhone 5 looks the same but has upgraded hardware inside when it comes out in September... someone will buy it just like someone bought the iPhone 4 from January to March.

Do you have to upgrade to a new model every year? No.

But somebody is always ready to buy a new phone.

BTW... the 3G and 3GS looked the same... and that did OK.
 
Couldn't agree more

No offense but customer service reps will say anything

Anyone who's had to phone any call-center in the last 10 years would surely know that if there's no chance of a sale being closed, CS reps will say whatever is needed to get you off their line.

Anyone who's had to phone any call-center in the last 10 years would surely know that if there's a chance of a sale being closed, CS reps will say whatever is needed to get the stat as quickly as possible and get you off their line.
 
Last quarter... people were buying iPhones at a rate of over 200,000 per day. It doesn't matter what they look like... or what time of year it is... Apple will sell iPhones.

Even if the iPhone 5 looks the same but has upgraded hardware inside when it comes out in September... someone will buy it just like someone bought the iPhone 4 from January to March.

Do you have to upgrade to a new model every year? No.

But somebody is always ready to buy a new phone.

BTW... the 3G and 3GS looked the same... and that did OK.

I personally believe these days that the look of the phone comes secondary to what is "under the hood".

Yes it helps if it's a good shape with a good screen but if Apple continue to release devices that a technically better the the rest then people will lap it up - the death grip didnt stop so many iPhone 4s being sold did it - people accepted it as the device packed a punch
 
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Can the front page print a retraction?...

AT&T CSRs don't receive any official information about ANY phone releases prior to general public... Let alone an iPhone release.

We weren't informed about the iPhone 4 being released until AFTER Apple's official press conference last year.

Even though I know this is a site for rumors... I've found this site to make sure the BS rumors were weeded out before it would become front-page news... But making an unsubstantiated statement by a random AT&T CSR front-page material is just plain bad journalism.

BTW: AT&T has been cracking down on customer's upgrade eligibility dates. If you downgrade/remove features/plans on your account odds are the date will be changed.

AT&T makes no promises that the date is constant and it can really change at any time...

The customer related to the article probably was suspended too many times for non-pay and that's the reason why the date was changed... Not because of some crazy conspiracy to correlate with the next iPhone release...
 
Rumor is based on false information in this case

I qualify for a full upgrade on 6/25/2011, I bought the iPhone 4 on launch day, 6/24/2011. So there's some other reason why this guy isn't qualifying for the upgrade. AT&T treats upgrades differently based on monthly plan, how long you've been a customer, and if you've paid your bills on time.

AT&T likes me, so I always get a full upgrade early. They really like my sister. She also upgrades yearly and loses or destroys an iPhone mid-year, and still gets upgrades both times.

That being said, I've seen nothing but speculation and baseless rumors about a Fall launch for the new iPhone.
 
I don't think Apple can continuously afford to do that though. Everyone can see that Android is making a stand and a strong one at that. Improving market share more than others still while some are even declining.

Let's be clear... "Android" is an OS from Google that you can find on dozens of phones from many manufacturers.

Apple knows they can't compete with that. And they're not. Marketshare is not a goal. For instance... Android has more marketshare... now what?

It's Mac vs Windows all over again. Windows is crushing Macs 10 to 1. Dell and HP have sales that dwarf the Mac. But is Apple really in trouble with the Mac?

Apple sells phones... and quite a lot of them. 18 million iPhones last quarter... and 16 million in the previous quarter. Any other manufacturer would kill for those numbers.

If iPhone sales drop to ZERO... then we can talk about Apple rethinking their strategy. Until then... Apple will continue to sell hundreds of thousands of phones every day... further positioning themselves away from bankruptcy.
 
Let's be clear... "Android" is an OS from Google that you can find on dozens of phones from many manufacturers.

Apple knows they can't compete with that. And they're not. Marketshare is not a goal. For instance... Android has more marketshare... now what?

It's Mac vs Windows all over again. Windows is crushing Macs 10 to 1. Dell and HP have sales that dwarf the Mac. But is Apple really in trouble with the Mac?

Apple sells phones... and quite a lot of them. 18 million iPhones last quarter... and 16 million in the previous quarter. Any other manufacturer would kill for those numbers.

If iPhone sales drop to ZERO... then we can talk about Apple rethinking their strategy. Until then... Apple will continue to sell hundreds of thousands of phones every day... further positioning themselves away from bankruptcy.


Indeed - Apple make money from the sale of iphone hardware whereas Google will only take a percentage.

However, Google's plan is to control OS's because they then make money from their App store and adverts

Apple identified this last year and thus released the Ad-Sense scheme for devs to tempt them to use Apple's App Store over Googles.
 
Indeed - Apple make money from the sale of iphone hardware whereas Google will only take a percentage.

However, Google's plan is to control OS's because they then make money from their App store and adverts

Apple identified this last year and thus released the Ad-Sense scheme for devs to tempt them to use Apple's App Store over Googles.

Even if Apple and Google both make money from ads and apps... Apple still gets $600 per phone.

Apple has the right idea :D

"Android" can have their marketshare... I don't think it bothers Apple in the least.
 
:( This news makes me sad.

I need a new phone... Dunno if I can wait till August/September :S Might just pick up an iPhone 4...
 
I wonder how this will affect the future of iPhone release dates? i.e. next year and in the future, will iPhones be released in the fall or go back to their usual June/July release? I am eligible for an upgrade March of next year, so I don't want to upgrade to the iPhone 5 in March if a newer iPhone is going to be released a couple months later.
 
OMG....I would NEVER take information as fact from an "ATT customer service agent". I have received so much wrong info or even been dare I say lied to, I would never trust what a random ATT rep said.

Not to mention, the service reps are so far down the chain of command, they would not have info on when the next iphone is being released.

Exactly. An AT&T rep could tell me the sun is shining and I would have to verify for myself. They are masters of:

A. Not knowing what the ****** they're talking about.

B. Making something up to get you off the phone.

One of the many reasons I will never again give AT&T a dime of my money.
 
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