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AT&T Sued by Sprint for Misleading '5GE' Branding [Updated With AT&T Statement]
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I never said multimeter, so don't assume cos you know what that means.
The baseband chip in the iPhone knows what band it is on. How am I a hater, I'm typing this from a Windows box right?
You are incredibly naive if you think Apple are not complicit in this. Incredibly.
5G E is the new 4G. Apple was so generous that they upgraded my 3G iPhone 4S to 4G overnight. It was really magical.
So when 12.2 comes out if you have AT&T are you going to continually call tech support saying that the 5GE isn't faster than the LTE? I sure will =)
Me: "Hi my phone shows I have 5G E but its speed is the same as when I'm on the LTE network"
CS: "Oh okay, well 5G isn't available yet, and 5G E just means that your area will be upgraded to 5G"
Me: "So my phone will work with 5G already? Awesome!"
CS (Option 1): "Yes sir"
Me (Option 1): "Liar! No 5G modems are in iPhones yet!"
CS (Option 2): "No it just means the area will have 5G, your phone won't have 5G as you'll have to have a 5G capable device."
Me (Option 2): "So you're lying by saying my network is 5G E instead of LTE. That's blatant false advertising, let me speak to your manager."
Rinse, repeat. Eventually they may offer me a new phone right?
Me: "Hi my phone shows I have 5G E but its speed is the same as when I'm on the LTE network"
CS: "Oh okay, well 5G isn't available yet, and 5G E just means that your area will be upgraded to 5G"
Me: "So my phone will work with 5G already? Awesome!"
CS (Option 1): "Yes sir"
Me (Option 1): "Liar! No 5G modems are in iPhones yet!"
CS (Option 2): "No it just means the area will have 5G, your phone won't have 5G as you'll have to have a 5G capable device."
Me (Option 2): "So you're lying by saying my network is 5G E instead of LTE. That's blatant false advertising, let me speak to your manager."
Rinse, repeat. Eventually they may offer me a new phone right?
Is it just a carrier update setting and doesn't have anything to do with the rest of iOS or does there need to be something in iOS that supports it (which comes from Apple)? In that sense, couldn't AT&T already be showing it on devices running basically any iOS version then, and not just in upcoming iOS 12.2 (based on the latest beta)?
App Store -
Apple: If you're going to be using our platform you must follow this rule ".........."
Dev: Ok, noted. We will do that.
iOS -
Apple: We want our customers to be getting what they paid for so if you're going to be using our platform you must follow this rule "5G must be 5G and not some other flavour of 4G"
AT&T et al: OK noted. We will ensure that.
See how simple that is even in your scenario.
Indeed, I agree, I was just pointing out how ridiculous the concept was that someone else made that it's not Apple's responsibility and nothing to do with Apple what appears on the screen of their product.
Of course it does!
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I disagree.
It's Apple's device.
You don't feel they have or should have ANY control or say in any image displayed on their screen, irresdpective of how incorect of offensive it was.
How about a NAZI carrier?
You think Apple would allow an offensive swastika logo appear on their screen?
Nope, we all know they would step in and not allow this.
BWAAAAA HAAA HA HA HA!
That's rich! I'm not sure what the folks over at AT&T are smoking, because they're spewing some seriously delusional PR "talking points"! Anyone else suddenly want to conduct a poll of AT&T customers, to see how many real customers agree with AT&T's claims?
Finally, Sprint does something correct! Sprint needs to stop AT&T's false advertisement or it may effect their business by misleading customers into thinking they have 5G over Sprint when in-fact AT&T don't. This is what happens when two companies date and then breakup! This is Ex revenge right, here!
Well when you’re talking frequencies and electrical voltage you would need a multi meter to take those readings. So if what you said is true, you’re comparing a meter to a cell phones network indicator.
How are you so sure Apple is responsible for this?? Do you write their code for reading different LTE bands and networks???
Alrighty then
I was in San Diego last weekend and was surprised to see my Xr displaying 5Ge. The funny part was the service was slow at times.
Good point, to further it. What does Apple have to gain by showing a 5G cell indicator for AT&T???
I didn’t say anything about altruism. Are you having a hard time reading or did you quote the wrong post lol
Advertise it as such, why try to up the game in a spec race when depending on the upgrade will not be capable off.
That’s like advertising XYZ home router has WiFi wireless AC enabled or capable. While your mobile device is only capable of wireless G. While wireless AC has not been finalized by ISO. Your device will only see a possible max G speed rarely and nothing more. The hardware being used and sold is not capable, this is false and misleading advertising and a fine should be provided. Repeat offenders, probation.
Adverting that we are upgrading our network for capable phones is fine.
Then the forum would be flooded with “My coworker has -65 dBm on her iPhone 8 and I only have -70 dBm! I’m taking it back to Apple right now! This is completely unacceptable!!!”
Or
“My friend has -65 dBm on her iPhone Xr running the latest iOS and I only have -70 dBm on last year’s iOS. This is blatant planned obsolescence! I’m taking it back to Apple right now! This is completely unacceptable!!!”
True, but that is on the carriers, not Apple. My car displays actual speed. Maybe we can get them to change it to just labels. Stopped-Walking Speed-School Zone-Residential-Secondary-HighwayThen the forum would be flooded with “My coworker has -65 dBm on her iPhone 8 and I only have -70 dBm! I’m taking it back to Apple right now! This is completely unacceptable!!!”
Or
“My friend has -65 dBm on her iPhone Xr running the latest iOS and I only have -70 dBm on last year’s iOS. This is blatant planned obsolescence! I’m taking it back to Apple right now! This is completely unacceptable!!!”
Sorry officer, I couldn't have been speeding, I was in a School Zone, so my car must have been throttled to that speed!
Hah!True, but that is on the carriers, not Apple. My car displays actual speed. Maybe we can get them to change it to just labels. Stopped-Walking Speed-School Zone-Residential-Secondary-Highway
Your fatal fallacy, though, is assuming facts or logic have absolutely ANYTHING to do with people’s complaints/posts.
But it was something that was being worked on and was going to be different than HSPA+ or something else similar. Doesn't mean that you just take the name of the next thing and call it that if that's not what it's actually called and if that next thing is going to be something different, even if it wasn't officially codified yet.
Why not something like 3G+ or 3Ga (for advanced or something like that), or 3.5G -- basically something that still implies improvement without an incorrect implication that a whole new and different technology is in play that was only being finalized at that time?
The Xr can't display a 5Ge logo... it lacks 4x4MIMO support, which is required to get the 5Ge logo to show.
My daughter has an Xr and I have an XS.
We were both in DC this weekend and my phone showed 5Ge and on occasion LTE, while hers only showed LTE the entire time.
That 5Ge was slow as hell too.
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