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AT&T Sued by Sprint for Misleading '5GE' Branding [Updated With AT&T Statement]

code-m said:
MacRumors is now LitigationReports :rolleyes:

Put it in its separate tab/section. It’s like one of your friends who goes too far to tell you some personal biological function was concerning. Visit a doctor, just like majority here are not lawyers or their opinion has no bearing on a legal proceeding. If you are interested go to the source, quite baiting a Rumours site with facts. :eek::p
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You should be discussing this in the Site and Forum Feedback section. ;)
 
alpi123 said:
What does even Sprint have to do with AT&T?! Can't they just mind their own business?
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Actually, they have every right to sue when AT&T's fraudulent practices negatively impacts their sales. And make no mistake AT&T is committing fraud here.
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randyhudson said:
And what benefits would that be? To stream 10 4K videos simultaneously? Or to blow through your monthly data cap in 20 seconds?
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Actually, low latency is a major part of 5G standards and something that many people absolutely require now.
 
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Makes me contemplate switching to a different carrier, even though I've been an otherwise satisfied AT&T customer since 2007.
 
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acorntoy said:
Haven’t bought a tv in awhile but I honestly thought Samsung’s QLED line was their OLED line, at least that’s what I’ve gotten from the commercials :eek::oops:

What’s the actual difference? I will be buying a tv soon.
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Nope, QLED is nothing to do with OLED. It’s a marketing gimmick. The difference is huge, but very specific and has caveats. OLED is better for contrast, mainly. With OLED, every single pixel emits its own light and can be turned on/off so you can have a black pixel (off) next to a white pixel, and the difference is exact. No light bleed, for example, because there’s no backlight. It truly is incredible with content that takes advantage of it. Standard content will still look better than normal but 4K HDR is jaw dropping.

The main caveats of OLED are that they aren’t as bright in general and suffer from image burn. You need to be a little careful not to have the same image on the screen for hours. Technology has improved over the last few years and screen burn is much less likely, but can still happen. Elements like the BBC’s red news ticker are major culprits for screen burn and I wish broadcasters would start thinking about how they place their static elements.

As long as you’re just careful, you’ll be fine. I play games with mine for hours (static UI elements) and mine is fine.

As for the lower brightness with OLED: just turn off all ambient lighting. That’s how you should watch tv anyway! And it’s not *that* low anyway, it’s just not quite as bright as say, QLED. And that’s about the only thing QLED has over OLED. QLED is literally just standard backlit LED.
 
Don’t you have an advertising standards agency over there? Oh wait, you don’t like gubmint.
 
I hope T (merging with Sprint anyway) and Ver jump in to support Sprint in this. AT&T is just causing confusion and lying to customers with this false label anyway.
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dewski said:
Hey. That's mean. I love sprint. 2 iphones with unlimited everything for $90 a month.
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Even better when you get the employee family plans. Unlimited Talk/Text/Data, 50 GB Hotspot, and Hulu limited commercials. With Autopay, 2 lines $74 after taxes and fees.
 
I actually like 5GE it tells you what areas have faster speeds and how much expansion is going on
 
They are deploying 5G 'Edge' speeds. Now if they can deploy a stronger and wider network, that would benefit the customer, but why would they do that.
 
Why stop at 5Ge? 7Ge sounds better and it doesn't make AT&T that much scummier.
 
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This is still LTE, which is 4G. 256 QAM, 4x4 MIMO and 3-way carrier aggregation (CA)

Claiming connectivity of 5G, 6G, etc. should be regulated going forward or the unethical carriers will always play this game.
 
BvizioN said:
It is amazing how you still spin it in a way to make it look as though this is Apple's fault. Typical!
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Ok, well if I was producing something that was not genuine, in an obvious attempt to mislead the public, and you happily put my misleading sign in your shop window.
Yet at the same time you promote your shop as a place people can go to get honest details with nothing misleading.

Then I would say you should not allow me to place my misleading advert in your window.
You should take a stand, and refuse.

The fact than some scummy untrustworthy stores on the same street are putting up my sign should d have nothing to do with you, as YOU are the place people respect for no misinformation.

You should not use the fact other stores are doing it, as an excuse to lower your standards.
 
This is pure fraud and it's a disgrace that Apple is so complicit in it, helping design the logo with a smaller font for the E to make it as disingenuous as possible
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Piggie said:
What puzzles me most is, as Apple continually publicly say how good, honest, truthful etc etc they are to the public.
Why would they ever agree to allow this 5G logo to be displayed on their phone in the 1st place, when they know it's sold purpose is to mislead less knowledgeable customers?
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Because Apple also wants the customers misled

Apple will not have a 5G phone available when other manufacturers will and don't want customers making informed choices
 
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Khedron said:
This is pure fraud and it's a disgrace that Apple is so complicit in it, helping design the logo with a smaller font for the E to make it as disingenuous as possible
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Because Apple also wants the customers misled

Apple will not have a 5G phone available when other manufacturers will and don't want customers making informed choices
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I’m sorry, but how is Apple complicit?
 
Khedron said:
Apple worked with AT&T to design and implement the 5GE status logo on their phones

They chose to make the 'E' a much smaller font to make it easier to confuse with 5G
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You have proof that Apple worked with them to do so? Or is this just speculation?
 
Khedron said:
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/4/1...n-iphones-misleading-ios-software-update-beta
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Yes, I’ve read that. The thing is, it’s also just speculation. The Verge also has no actual proof or evidence of such collusion, and several in their comments also brought up that concern.

Listen, if evidence is presented which actually proves the assertion, I’m happy to acquiesce, but until that time, you have an unsubstantiated accusation, not a fact, as you seem to believe.
 
Fidgetyrat said:
If it is an improved 4G network it should be 4Ge, not 5Ge. There is no 5G technology involved at all. AT&T should lose for false advertising in my non legal opinion.
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i agree with you. it seems as if it would (should) logically be named 4Ge.

but im not clear on exactly what ATT is claiming. the article is not clear.

is ATT claiming that what it calls 5Ge is actually able to achieve 5G standards speed???
because, in the ATT written statement quoted it says:
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"Customers want and deserve to know when they are getting better speeds."
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this statement is patently false since no device on the market is able actually achieve 5G speed so the customer in fact is NOT getting better speed.
however, elsewhere in the article it says that ATT is only claiming that a 5G speed is available in that market.

its what the icon is meaning: is the icon indicating what the network is actually delivering to that phone, or, is the icon indicating what the network is capable of.

ATT can't have it both ways.
in the same article there it is claiming both.
 
willmtaylor said:
Yes, I’ve read that. The thing is, it’s also just speculation. The Verge also has no actual proof or evidence of such collusion, and several in their comments also brought up that concern.

Listen, if evidence is presented which actually proves the assertion, I’m happy to acquiesce, but until that time, you have an unsubstantiated accusation, not a fact, as you seem to believe.
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So AT&T hacked Apple and snuck their new logo into an iOS update?

Keep believing in Father Tim
 
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