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Oh happy days..... 263 a share. And they said Chubby, you's stupid to put all you eggs in one stock!
Chubby, happy. Very fricking happy!
 
The thing I'm trying to figure out is why Apple is charging me 18% sales tax in MA on a 200$ purchase. Last I checked sales tax here was only about 6%.

Guess I'll be in line thanks to AT&Ts snafu.
 
I was going to pre-order online through the Apple store... but my shipping address didn't look complete and there's no way to edit it to make sure it's correct.

So, I thought maybe I'd just go into an AT&T store later today and take care of it... but I guess that's not happening either since they're not taking pre-orders now. :confused:
 
AT&T should have waited to bump up people's eligibility dates until after this presale.

There are probably a lot of 3G owners who never bought a 3GS that are getting shut out.

Also, did BP clean up the oil yet?

I agree. And They have to stop it leaking first...
 
...and just what would you do with this "Free Phone"? :cool:

I will contact AT&T and let them know I got a free iPhone and they should have it back, if they let me keep it I will give it away to somebody for free. My cell phone contract isn't up until December with US Cellular so I have no use for it.
 
What about the people who used the iPhone Apple Store App and made a reservation to buy a phone in the store?

Do we have to wait in the same line as everyone else? Are we guaranteed to get a phone?

Does anyone know????
 
And why did their system implode. They had their single highest sales volume day in the history of ATT.

I hope we get some numbers soon on how many phones they sold. I think some people are going to be shocked...

No, it imploded because last weekend they updated their systems without testing them, then started logging people into other people's accounts and had to shut things down for security reasons, then got backlogged.

Oh, and the volume was very high. Still a fail.
 
So you are going to compare the whole stock market to one company's ordering system?
Nah, I gave another example anyhow. We could offer more.

Processing a million consumer transactions a day should be kiddie play for an S&P 500 component with $150 billion in market cap and $123 billion in revenue. They're running Oracle, SAP, whatever.

Plus, Apple is still taking pre-orders and they have more units to sell.

AT&T's systems melted down.
 
AT&T's systems should have been able to handle it.

To give a little perspective, the U.S. stock market alone processes billions of transactions every day. On a "busy" day in U.S. airports, millions of people are traveling.

AT&T doesn't have an excuse. They failed.

I'm wondering if the the "iPad" Breach by Gizmodo's buddies had an effect. at&t may have created another issue with the fix for the "iPhone 4 Revenge Attack"?

Something to think about. :apple:
 
Its always going to be a guess. Someone with a spreadsheet will sit down do some number crunching and make a guess. Sometimes they will be right and will sometimes they will be wrong.

I think that's a crock. I think they said 'it's 2 days out of an entire year, we are going to sell our entire allotment, why spend the money to upgrade for a 2 day event'. If they upgrade, they they sell out faster ... where's the return on investment. All the people complaining ... they are going to buy the phone anyway, still runs on ATT only.

It goes with 'why hurry to upgrade coverage when we have the phone locked in for a fixed amount of time'. People will still buy it no matter what.
 
I am having a different problem today.

Using Apple.com I am unable to upgrade my Wife's line because it says it can't be completed online... It isn't timing out, reporting an error or saying it can't complete it NOW... It is saying it can't complete the process online and always does so after I choose a data plan.

Anyone have any ideas? I feel so bad for my wife as I was able to pre-order yesterday and am getting the phone the 24th...
 
The thing I'm trying to figure out is why Apple is charging me 18% sales tax in MA on a 200$ purchase. Last I checked sales tax here was only about 6%.

Guess I'll be in line thanks to AT&Ts snafu.

As a former Apple Store employee, i can comment on this:

In Massachusetts, State Law requires Apple to charge tax on the FULL, UNSUBSIDIZED PRICE of the iPhone. This is most likely because Apple's established retail price for the phone is $400 more than they're selling it for, and because you're not buying through the service provider, they don't take into account the tax you will pay for your phone service.

AT&T only charges tax on the new-contract price, most likely because they legally can sell the iPhone for their own price, and you are already taxed on your phone service. My total was $211.44 from the AT&T online store. Thats why I didn't order from Apple.

Again, this is just my own speculation, but i know that it was a legal thing in Massachusetts. The exact reasoning for it, I don't quite know.
 
I can almost guarantee that 90% of the people commenting in this thread have zero clue about the demands of maintaining high-traffic servers. Yes, their servers went down- but I am hard pressed to think of a comparable example of any company being able to handle such a high amount of requests in such a short time.

True, but a lot more than server crashes occurred.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/1989...e_Preorder_System_Thoroughly.html?tk=rss_news

http://gizmodo.com/5564262/apple-iphone-4-order-security-breach-exposes-private-information
 
I am having a different problem today.

Using Apple.com I am unable to upgrade my Wife's line because it says it can't be completed online... It isn't timing out, reporting an error or saying it can't complete it NOW... It is saying it can't complete the process online and always does so after I choose a data plan.

Anyone have any ideas? I feel so bad for my wife as I was able to pre-order yesterday and am getting the phone the 24th...

I also got this message yesterday and today as well. If anyone knows why, let me know. It will let me pick out the data and message plan, but will not move to the shopping cart.
 
While I'd like to believe this is due to high demand, I don't get why the 3gs 8gb would be sold out. Would this item also be incredibly popular all of a sudden?

I don't think the 3GS 8 GB is sold out as well. The article states they stopped all pre-ordering so they could catch up to demand from yesterday. That doesn't mean the 3GS is sold out as well. They just don't want anymore pre-orders until they are caught up from yesterday.
 
First of all, I think it's ridiculous that anyone would put themselves through hours and hours of clicking frustration just to PREORDER a dang phone. Secondly, it is ridiculous that anyone would camp out in front of a retail store just to buy a dang phone.

Having said that, the fact that people are willing to do this for just a dang phone says a lot about how amazing this dang phone is. Did we hear stories about the EVO launch like this? Say what you will about specs, features and the like; with this kind of hype it will be very hard to "kill" the iPhone. HTC and Sprint can only wish they had the "problem" that Apple and ATT have: Too much sales.

Oh yeah, I finally got my order to go through yesterday on Apple's site, but I'm gonna have to wait in line for my wife's phone. I've already requested next Thursday off! Ridiculous, huh! :p
 
who thinks Apple will screw up ATT by not providing enough iPhone 4 to ATT? :eek:

definitely bad planning by both ATT and APPLE.

horror story does not end here wait until
*iTunes 9.2 goes live
* iOS 4.0 goes live
*Activation system goes live

it is safe to activate after couple of days ...
 
Patience May Be A Virtue In This Case

I was seriously considering jumping into the pre-order melee, but thought twice.

As much as I want to get one right away, what happens if:
- There are build issues? (they are cranking these things out by the thousands, new screens, new batteries, new processors, new camera ... plenty of opportunities for a key failure point.)
- What if I lose or break my phone in the first month? (there will probably be supply shortages for months, could be without a new iPhone or with an old backup for a while.)
- New iOS4 out there ... How much testing has been done on the new hardware other than in bars in California?

As much as I want to jump in, I'll probably wait until September or October. Maybe I'll even be able to get a white one.

I will enjoy reading about others hopefully great experiences with their new phones though.

-Benster
 
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As a former sheep, I stood in line at the Apple Store for hours just to get my hands on the 2G, 3G, and 3GS. Now I watch in amazement as people fall all over themselves trying to PREORDER the new 4...
I've decided this time around to just stroll into the Apple Store a week later and pick up my new iPhone 4 without dealing with the insanity. I swear its like a contagious disease!

I could not agree more. The whole thing is INSANE!! I did the line thing when the 3g came out. Waited for 5 hours. When 3gs came out I waited a month, waltzed into the store got my phone with no problem. I will do the same with this one. I will wait it out. It's not like 6/24/10, will be the only day this phone will be sold, it will be there in a month from now too. ;)
 
As a former Apple Store employee, i can comment on this:

In Massachusetts, State Law requires Apple to charge tax on the FULL, UNSUBSIDIZED PRICE of the iPhone. This is most likely because Apple's established retail price for the phone is $400 more than they're selling it for, and because you're not buying through the service provider, they don't take into account the tax you will pay for your phone service.

AT&T only charges tax on the new-contract price, most likely because they legally can sell the iPhone for their own price, and you are already taxed on your phone service. My total was $211.44 from the AT&T online store. Thats why I didn't order from Apple.

Again, this is just my own speculation, but i know that it was a legal thing in Massachusetts. The exact reasoning for it, I don't quite know.

Wow, and here I thought NY was the pits. :(
 
...

after hours of trying, I made it through on the AT&T site yesterday. as a backup, I also have a phone reserved at the Apple Store. So, I'll wait in line on the 24th...and if that fails, my AT&T order will be in the mail. No confirmation email yet, but I noticed that even though I ordered yesterday, my order status shows an order date of 6/16...

i will have an iPhone 4 by week's end if I have to drive to Cupertino and raid the campus...
 
I can almost guarantee that 90% of the people commenting in this thread have zero clue about the demands of maintaining high-traffic servers. Yes, their servers went down- but I am hard pressed to think of a comparable example of any company being able to handle such a high amount of requests in such a short time.

In any case, that's a discussion for either this thread or this thread. Doesn't make much sense to me to not even take new preorders, but oh well. They're just saving you the frustration of watching the loading circle all day.

Agree. Large sites like amazon have even been slowed to a crawl during huge sales like when the ps3 was first made available to order.
 
Hey Steve Jobs. How much longer are you going to let AT&T kick you in the balls before you do something about it? Kick this bi*tch to the curb and move on.
 
who thinks Apple will screw up ATT by not providing enough iPhone 4 to ATT? :eek:

definitely bad planning by both ATT and APPLE.

horror story does not end here wait until
*iTunes 9.2 goes live
* iOS 4.0 goes live
*Activation system goes live

it is safe to activate after couple of days ...

Guessing iTunes 9.2 will come out in the next day or two. Before IOS 4 goes live next week. Well lets hope it does...
 
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