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AT&T Unlocked off Contract iPhones Question
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Didn't get an email (yet) but….
It is unlocked!!!!!
Tried everyday from tuesday on, just now deactivated with SAM and the congrats message popped up!!!
Nice way to start the day.
Edit:
Removed Ultrasn0w et voilà, Tmobile popped right up, have to think about restoring and updating radio..
A great many thanks to Musclenerd/Planetbeing for Ultrasn0w!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is unlocked!!!!!
Tried everyday from tuesday on, just now deactivated with SAM and the congrats message popped up!!!
Nice way to start the day.
Edit:
Removed Ultrasn0w et voilà, Tmobile popped right up, have to think about restoring and updating radio..
A great many thanks to Musclenerd/Planetbeing for Ultrasn0w!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I dispute it!
For your information, there is a world outside of the USA (and Canada)
Musclenerd and Planetbeing had a good reason to develop the JB and unlock for the IP4, freedom of choice has something to do with it.
I bought an IP4 when it wasn't available in Europe yet, let alone unlocked, so many people relied on the ultrasn0w unlock abroad, but also in the second handmarket in the USA, just putting it down to unwillingness is kind of naive, lately with the availabillty of unlocked phones (at a price) the unlock will indeed be less of a priority, especially with the still publicly unjailbroken iPad3
For your information, there is a world outside of the USA (and Canada)
Musclenerd and Planetbeing had a good reason to develop the JB and unlock for the IP4, freedom of choice has something to do with it.
I bought an IP4 when it wasn't available in Europe yet, let alone unlocked, so many people relied on the ultrasn0w unlock abroad, but also in the second handmarket in the USA, just putting it down to unwillingness is kind of naive, lately with the availabillty of unlocked phones (at a price) the unlock will indeed be less of a priority, especially with the still publicly unjailbroken iPad3
Which is EXACTLY what I said. So, what are you disputing? And I am referring to the market NOW, not when the iPhone4 came out. And buying an iPhone for use in a market where it's not officially being sold, yeah, that's a real typical use with a huge number of people clamoring for an unlock.
I give up. Too many people stuck in their conventional wisdom world and who can't even read and understand simple posts and then resort to name calling.
Less of a priority does not mean obsolete. I dont see a single instance of name calling in this thread either
? that's an easy "i give up" as soon as somebody disputes your "opinion" together with some valid arguments.
To refute some of your assumptions:
"The situation that apparently brought all this about was someone was moving from the US (ATT) to Canada and wanted to be able to use their iPhone there. Hardly a typical situation."
For the dev's it's more about freedom of choice than any other reason.
"The 'I can't afford it' excuse is bogus."
Maybe for you, you are not everybody though.
"These people can afford to travel overseas but can't afford an unlocked phone? Right."
Some can some can't, but why pay extra if you can have it for lower cost?
You are right that we'll see more unlocked phones entering into the secondhand market, but there is still a price difference in the USA of around $200 for a new unlocked iPhone or a secondhand with software/hardware unlock.
In Brasil a new IP4 8GB is $1000 or the 4S 64GB for $1900 .
Like i said the world is bigger than you might think.
In my case i have an old contract with grandfather rights, not minutes, but value bundle, when roaming i pay everything out of the bundle instead of the extra roaming charges on top of the bundle with minutes, and i do roam a lot.
Freedom of choice, keep that AND have an iPhone, instead of an iPhone with a new very expensive minute and data plan.
Btw half of the postings in this section are about unlocking and BB issues.
I consider the forum as in information databank and try to help people if they have problems, not to complain or call names
My friend got his phone unlocked immediately and it was still under contract. It was an iPhone 4 that was still under contract. They initially said no, but I guess he really knows how to complain because an hour later they unlocked it for him.
Still no email, but I just tried it and it's unlocked. Only took two days, not the five to seven the agent quoted. Now I will have a use for my old 3GS next time I travel (which, with an infant in the house, looks to be some time off...)
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AT&T Unlock
Has anyone gone thru this process yet and successfully used a USA GSM carrier? I'm curious to know if this is a full carrier unlock or a partial unlock to allow international use but prevent domestic use. And FWIW, all they do is request that your IMEI be added to the whitelist at Apple. Which is why you need to connect to iTunes so it can reach out and check that list. When you insert a new SIM from a different carrier it should trigger a new activation cycle and that's when it checks.
So... can anyone confirm this is a complete unlock?
Has anyone gone thru this process yet and successfully used a USA GSM carrier? I'm curious to know if this is a full carrier unlock or a partial unlock to allow international use but prevent domestic use. And FWIW, all they do is request that your IMEI be added to the whitelist at Apple. Which is why you need to connect to iTunes so it can reach out and check that list. When you insert a new SIM from a different carrier it should trigger a new activation cycle and that's when it checks.
So... can anyone confirm this is a complete unlock?
I have not used yet used it on a domestic carrier, but if you'll read back just a few posts you'll see that dhlizard has.
Umm, I'm pretty sure we understand how a factory unlock works. Also, it does it any time the phone is activated, which is upon restore or after deactivation using SAM. Inserting a new SIM does not require a new activation.
My phone is GSM, so once unlocked via IMEI, it allows the use of any GSM sim worldwide.
A CMDA phone unlock via IMEI only allows the use of International GSM carriers, not any in the US.
@ Wilsonium - Not sure which model you have.
Its not a partial unlock like CDMA iphones sold by Verizon and Sprint USA.
Its a full factory unlock and all US or any carriers GSM sims will work.
It's a full unlock. I put in a T-Mobile SIM after getting the "Congrats you're unlocked" message from iTunes and completed a call.
I never did get the "Congratulations you are unlocked" message but inserted my Verizon sim card to check and it popped up with AT&T and T-Mobile as possible carriers, so I assume it is all good. Anyone else not get the unlocked message after going through the process?
Just to be clear, the congrats message only appears in iTunes. It doesn't mean much though. As long as your iphone lets you activate non AT&T sim cards, it's unlocked
If you really want, you can decrypt your wildcard_record.plist and look at the list of allowed IMSIs. If it's all question marks, you're good to go.
They unlocked my iPhone 4 without too much trouble. I told them that it was the phone I had before upgrading to the 4S on that line. I just had to wait a few minutes and it was unlocked.
My point is that the phone one upgraded from can be unlocked as per their policy; your statement that they don't meet the conditions is just plain wrong. There's no reason to expect them not to do it except in the case of misinformed representatives.
Sweet!
I appreciate you pointing out the deficiency of my argument.
To be fair, I based my first post on scattered and somewhat weak information that had been offered at that point along with my experience with calling 611.
We have now all had the luxury, along with AT&T, of processing additional and more accurate info. and sharing that updated data with others here.
I appreciate you pointing out the deficiency of my argument.
To be fair, I based my first post on scattered and somewhat weak information that had been offered at that point along with my experience with calling 611.
We have now all had the luxury, along with AT&T, of processing additional and more accurate info. and sharing that updated data with others here.
It's not the information that was insufficient, it was your interpretation. We all had the same information: a clear statement from AT&T that the rest of us all interpreted correctly.
Yes, you and many others interpreted correctly. I interpreted it, along with the AT&T rep I had on the phone on the eighth, incorrectly.
Well established now.
Next?
Well established now.
Next?
Well, I can attest to the fact the AT&T CSR's and Tech support folks were all way off base on the 1st day of unlocks.
I made 2 calls that day and was told both times my off contract iPhone4 would not be unlocked because it was not yet 2 years old.
Called back the next day, and was approved for the unlock by the 1st CSR with whom I spoke.
So AT&T had a learning curve on this also.
I made 2 calls that day and was told both times my off contract iPhone4 would not be unlocked because it was not yet 2 years old.
Called back the next day, and was approved for the unlock by the 1st CSR with whom I spoke.
So AT&T had a learning curve on this also.