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AT&T will increase monthly bill for standard upgrades vs Next
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Exactly. So you end up paying full retail for the phone ($810). So there really is no point in buying out the balance.
This guy is getting $180 for his 16GB iPhone 5 ... The easy way though ... No craigslist or eBay
You got that 25$ off because you probobaly were out of contract I am not AT&T customer but it works same with Verizon.
You get month2month discount , you get 25$ off when you upgrade on contract that discount is removed.
This go round a lot of people are going to find out the hard way a brand new iPhone doesn't cost $199.
I'd hate to be the rep that has to try and explain this to people.
Yes but it really is only a phone 4-5-6 ... Just like that new model BMW ... If you got the cash it's fine ... If not many folks will need to shop around or just keep driving that old clutter.
EVERY year I have sold my year old phone for a great price for me. How? Well, for starters I keep the box and all the accessories in the box are usually unused. I won't use the charging cable, plug or earphones from the 6+ that I get as I already have... I believe selling the phone super complete like this is the key - I also keep the phone in PRISTINE condition, I also have applecare which goes WITH THE PHONE - so people are actually getting a decent deal if you think about it. I sell the phone unlocked as well.
Every single year I have sold the phone and made money - my friends can't believe it either but I do. Most of my phone sales have been via ebay. I will only sell to people in the US and with paypal.
I would expect these threads if this was a Chihuahua forum.
But since it is a Mac/Iphone forum.....
Where have people been?
If you were on a family share plan and ATT reduced your monthly payment or you changed plans ...did you not notice that it is $15 per line with NEXT on the 10GB plan and $40 with an upgrade?
But since it is a Mac/Iphone forum.....
Where have people been?
If you were on a family share plan and ATT reduced your monthly payment or you changed plans ...did you not notice that it is $15 per line with NEXT on the 10GB plan and $40 with an upgrade?
I do the same and have never managed better than $400. Market might be different where you are. Either way, keep it up! You're killin' it.
They didn't mention this at all when they switched me from two grandfathered unlimited plans (160/month?) to the 10gb shared plan (130/month). I assumed the $130 was my new plan price going forward no matter what I did. I figured I was just paying less to get less data.
It was only until yesterday when I started looking at plans online that I realized something was weird.
Side question: On the next plan, is your phone unlocked from the start? And a dumb question: after the 20 or 24 months the phone is yours, correct?
Yes 20 or 24 months .... But you do have the option of paying it off after 2 months then it can be unlocked
I just got off with a rep as well. im on an older mobile share plan. if i was on the newer mobile share value plan, which it sounds like you guys are, i would lose that $25 per line discount if i chose to not go with the next plan. what they did was give you the per line discount in advance hoping you would use next to upgrade
Not sure how you are getting your numbers but assuming you are doing less than 10 GB plan calculating it over 2 yrs it is $50 cheaper to do the 2 yr plan. Now if your doing a 12 month comparison then doing Next is the cheaper and better option.
What we are forgetting is that at&t will take back the device when you upgrade again, using NEXT. Where as, using standard upgrade, you get to keep the phone for yourself and when you sell it ( on craigslist, amazon, etc you will get a min of 250$. Isn't it?
It's easier to compare it without the monthly usage fees and just compare phone vs phone.
Contract
$199 - phone price
$40 - upgrade fee
$600 - $25/month x 24 month contract
$839 total
Next
$0 - phone price
$0 - upgrade fee
$649 - $32.45/month x 20 months or $27.05 x 24 month
$649 total
So the Next costs you $190 less BUT you have to turn your phone in when you get a new one and are essentially getting $190 for it whereas if you sold it yourself, you could get quite a bit more.
Next does also allow you to upgrade more often though, so that's a plus, but the phone is never paid off, you always have this phone payment. It's very similar to a car lease vs car loan and it depends on your habits and how often you change your phone.
Couple of problems with your explanation. First, with next, once you make the $649 in payments YOU OWN THE PHONE. You don't have to turn it in, ever. If you decide to upgrade again in ONE YEAR, then you give them the phone back and get a new one. This starts a new next plan at whatever price the current phone is, spread out over 20 months.
In your example it would be $32.45 x 12 = $389.40 you would spend if you turn the phone in after a year.
I went from $40/month on family share to $25/month on value shared plan with NEXT.
IF I decide to subsidize a phone off of the next program, yes, I will have my line increased $25/month. NEXT just separates the charges on your bill with no down payment for the phone required except taxes.
IF I decide to subsidize a phone off of the next program, yes, I will have my line increased $25/month. NEXT just separates the charges on your bill with no down payment for the phone required except taxes.
Positive... that is why it's called the Next 12... you can upgrade after 12 months if you turn the phone in. Or, you can pay it off, sell it privately or just keep it. Next is actually the best way to buy the phone - its a FREE loan from AT&T with no fees and no interest - Warren Buffet would approve
There is zero downside that I can see since you pay the SAME amount if you buy it outright or if you use next.
Correct. Your rate plan DOES NOT CHANGE with next! Only if you use the standard subsidized upgrade!
My Use case
My current line(Jan 1, 2013- Jan 1,2015): 40-15=25$(talk)+ 40(2GB)=65$
If I upgrade via Next 12 this week or next week:
For the next 12 months,
50$(tax i.e.,down payment)+[25(talk)+40(2GB)+32.5]*12=1220
Lets say, I dont want to upgrade next year and go for 24 months starting Jan1, 2015,
First 20 months: 50$(down payment-tax)+[25(talk)+40(2GB)+32.5]*20=2000
Next 4 months: [25+40+0]*4=260$
Total = 2000+260=2260$
If I wait till Jan1, 2015 and then do a standard upgrade,
For the next 24 months,
50$(tax)+200(phone)+[40(talk)+40(2gb)]*24 = 2170
The phone is mine too after 24 months, which will give me additional 200$ minimum. So, 2170-200 = 1970
Difference = 2260-1970=290$
NEXT sucks! An intelligent move by at&t though.
Please let me know if I mis-calculated anything above.
Note: The concept of me paying off the whole price to at&t to keep the phone is useless because we used to pay only 200$ and still get to keep the phone.
The 2 year contract to me never was a problem bcoz I never thought of changing the carrier.
My current line(Jan 1, 2013- Jan 1,2015): 40-15=25$(talk)+ 40(2GB)=65$
If I upgrade via Next 12 this week or next week:
For the next 12 months,
50$(tax i.e.,down payment)+[25(talk)+40(2GB)+32.5]*12=1220
Lets say, I dont want to upgrade next year and go for 24 months starting Jan1, 2015,
First 20 months: 50$(down payment-tax)+[25(talk)+40(2GB)+32.5]*20=2000
Next 4 months: [25+40+0]*4=260$
Total = 2000+260=2260$
If I wait till Jan1, 2015 and then do a standard upgrade,
For the next 24 months,
50$(tax)+200(phone)+[40(talk)+40(2gb)]*24 = 2170
The phone is mine too after 24 months, which will give me additional 200$ minimum. So, 2170-200 = 1970
Difference = 2260-1970=290$
NEXT sucks! An intelligent move by at&t though.
Please let me know if I mis-calculated anything above.
Note: The concept of me paying off the whole price to at&t to keep the phone is useless because we used to pay only 200$ and still get to keep the phone.
The 2 year contract to me never was a problem bcoz I never thought of changing the carrier.
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You only have to trade it in if you haven't paid off the phone. Once you pay it off, it is yours to keep and do whatever you wish.
So if I switch to Next and pay off the phone completely (in either 20 or 24 months) the phone is then MINE? What about the discount applied to my line, e.g. $15 or $25 dollars, does that continue or does that end once the phone is paid off?
For me, it appears a 2 year contract is slightly cheaper than going with a Next plan. I have a 2-line, 2GB data Mobile Share Value Whatever It's Called Plan, with a $15/month discount on each line. I don't care about early upgrades.
So with a 64GB iPhone 6:
Next:
$749 + tax
2 year contract:
$299 + tax
$40 upgrade fee
$15 x 24 loss of discount = $360
Total = $699 + tax
So Next costs me $749 over 2 years, contract costs $699 over 2 years.
I'm also assuming I'll save on tax with the 2 year contract since I'll be paying tax on $299 rather than $749, not sure about that though.
If anyone sees an error with my math let me know, but it looks like I'll be going with a 2 year contract.
So with a 64GB iPhone 6:
Next:
$749 + tax
2 year contract:
$299 + tax
$40 upgrade fee
$15 x 24 loss of discount = $360
Total = $699 + tax
So Next costs me $749 over 2 years, contract costs $699 over 2 years.
I'm also assuming I'll save on tax with the 2 year contract since I'll be paying tax on $299 rather than $749, not sure about that though.
If anyone sees an error with my math let me know, but it looks like I'll be going with a 2 year contract.
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