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AT&T's Glenn Lurie on the iPhone
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visual voice mail is not a FREE feature. It is the next tier up from enhanced voicemail and will be 4.99
PDA would be about 34.99 but you might have something like BB messenger which would use data and not SMS
now if you need unlimited SMS and unlimited DATa then it's 49.99
and you need 7 to 7 cause I'm not spending another 20 bucks to get 900 minutes when I can double my minutes by getting 7 to 7
How are you gonna have any rollover minutes with 450 anytime minutes thats like what 4 2 minute calls a day!!!
Wifi will only work if you have unlocked wifi at your work or home, but on the road att has about 40,000 wifi locations that is why i use the 19.99 bolt on.
So really you are looking at least a 110 bucks or more for this. It's still a great deal.
PDA would be about 34.99 but you might have something like BB messenger which would use data and not SMS
now if you need unlimited SMS and unlimited DATa then it's 49.99
and you need 7 to 7 cause I'm not spending another 20 bucks to get 900 minutes when I can double my minutes by getting 7 to 7
How are you gonna have any rollover minutes with 450 anytime minutes thats like what 4 2 minute calls a day!!!
Wifi will only work if you have unlocked wifi at your work or home, but on the road att has about 40,000 wifi locations that is why i use the 19.99 bolt on.
So really you are looking at least a 110 bucks or more for this. It's still a great deal.
Good point, pederg.
Unless using the iphone as an ipod somehow could somehow deduct money from a prepaid account, I cannot imagine we'd have features like that disabled. Would you not be able to use Address Book in an area with no cell service? How would AT&T know when to activate and deactivate all the functions you're paying or not paying for?
Unless using the iphone as an ipod somehow could somehow deduct money from a prepaid account, I cannot imagine we'd have features like that disabled. Would you not be able to use Address Book in an area with no cell service? How would AT&T know when to activate and deactivate all the functions you're paying or not paying for?
Over $100/month to me is a deal killer. I believe Apple wanted to keep the monthly cost under $100 and that is why the deal with Verizon fell through. Verizon really wanted this deal, who wouldn't. But in the end they weren't desperate enough to take Apple's terms. Cingular/ATT was hungry enough that they took the deal. Cingular did come back with a 5 year exclusive guarantee. And that ain't bad. The monthly cost should be well below $100/month. Anything near the century mark just sounds too scary.
With all this talk of who will be the carrier in Europe, or Canada we are missing the REALLY big market and that's CHINA, 300 Millions subscribers for China Mobile and counting. That's more people than Citizens of the USA. ALL of us. Now that's a market with Huge potential.
More info in the blog...
There is additional info in Brier Dudley's Blog:
Q: Can your network support a subscription service that would stream music to the iPhone?
A: Yes, but the device that's being launched is not that, that's not where we're going. This is going to pull music on just like an iPod does.
Q: The iPhone has other radios, including Wi-Fi. How will that work out?
A: ... You walk into your home, this goes onto your Wi=Fi network at home for data ... when you walk out of your home, ..., you'll be on our EDGE network on the data side. On the voice side, it's always on our network.
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/2007/05/more_iphone_conversation_with.html
There is additional info in Brier Dudley's Blog:
Q: Can your network support a subscription service that would stream music to the iPhone?
A: Yes, but the device that's being launched is not that, that's not where we're going. This is going to pull music on just like an iPod does.
Q: The iPhone has other radios, including Wi-Fi. How will that work out?
A: ... You walk into your home, this goes onto your Wi=Fi network at home for data ... when you walk out of your home, ..., you'll be on our EDGE network on the data side. On the voice side, it's always on our network.
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/brierdudley/2007/05/more_iphone_conversation_with.html
glen laurie and iPhone bunk
Can someone explain to me the point of putting wifi into a phone if I'm going to be forced into purchasing a data plan at $40/month, on top of my minutes plan, anyway? This is a case of a corporation blackmailing their consumers into purchasing services they often don't need. I want a convergence device that gives me music, movies, PIM, and phone. I need robust calendar and appointment scheduling. I need quick and easy text messaging. I need excellent voicemail options, as I work with 35 seperate clients on a weekly basis. I don't really need 24/7 internet access on my phone. And I've gone from a sure thing to an almost positive no way on the iPhone.
I'm even leaning to switching back to PC so I can get a phone that will easily sync to a computer so I don't lose all my appointments if something goes wrong. Missing Sync sucks. ATT sucks. And if Steve Jobs realized ATT was going to pull this stunt then maybe he sucks too.
And ATT is requiring that data plans get purchased with all their "smart phones". Period.
Can someone explain to me the point of putting wifi into a phone if I'm going to be forced into purchasing a data plan at $40/month, on top of my minutes plan, anyway? This is a case of a corporation blackmailing their consumers into purchasing services they often don't need. I want a convergence device that gives me music, movies, PIM, and phone. I need robust calendar and appointment scheduling. I need quick and easy text messaging. I need excellent voicemail options, as I work with 35 seperate clients on a weekly basis. I don't really need 24/7 internet access on my phone. And I've gone from a sure thing to an almost positive no way on the iPhone.
I'm even leaning to switching back to PC so I can get a phone that will easily sync to a computer so I don't lose all my appointments if something goes wrong. Missing Sync sucks. ATT sucks. And if Steve Jobs realized ATT was going to pull this stunt then maybe he sucks too.
And ATT is requiring that data plans get purchased with all their "smart phones". Period.
After the facts are revealed more I am less hyped...
I like my phone with the s60 software.
I use my phone to text and call... the rest of the crap I dont want. Its to much. We are becoing slaves to our phones. I'm online so much I need a respice, so go get a phone that is truly online makes no sense for me.
If I heard..." exceptional reception, no more dropped calls." Then maybe I would get more hyped.
I am trying to be more outside and away from the little monster that barks, rings, and yells things all day long.
I look forward to seeing the phone. I very interested to see about no tactile feel. Thats all
rant over
I like my phone with the s60 software.
I use my phone to text and call... the rest of the crap I dont want. Its to much. We are becoing slaves to our phones. I'm online so much I need a respice, so go get a phone that is truly online makes no sense for me.
If I heard..." exceptional reception, no more dropped calls." Then maybe I would get more hyped.
I am trying to be more outside and away from the little monster that barks, rings, and yells things all day long.
I look forward to seeing the phone. I very interested to see about no tactile feel. Thats all
rant over
Actually, it's more like saying if you can afford an HDTV that costs 4x any other HDTV, you can afford $150 cable.
Don't forget the fact that the only things the iPhone does that others don't is sync movies with iTunes, and brandish the Apple logo, but notice we are willing to pay 4x the cost of other phones for it. If we can afford that, then we can certainly afford to pay more in order to utilize all of its features or we'd buy cheaper phones.
Just My Opinion, But:
highschool kids shouldn't be allowed to have things like this. they're unnecessary and reinforce bad habits like blowing your money on a shiny tech product rather than thinking about whether you actually NEED it. Plus, they destroy them almost universally. kids can't take care of things like this. I wouldn't even let my kid have a phone, period. There's no need. its all just a want, and I don't deal in wants.
And to any kid who just thought to themselves "but I NEED a phone!": you just showed how young, immature, and inexperienced you are. Rethink your deifnition of the word "need."
highschool kids shouldn't be allowed to have things like this. they're unnecessary and reinforce bad habits like blowing your money on a shiny tech product rather than thinking about whether you actually NEED it. Plus, they destroy them almost universally. kids can't take care of things like this. I wouldn't even let my kid have a phone, period. There's no need. its all just a want, and I don't deal in wants.
And to any kid who just thought to themselves "but I NEED a phone!": you just showed how young, immature, and inexperienced you are. Rethink your deifnition of the word "need."
Ok, sending and receiving emails will require some sort of data plan, cingular is basically saying it is going to give unlimited because most people end up going over what their data plan is and then they get charged through the roof. I say keep your pants on and wait till the plans are available. Then if the plans are horrible you can complain but I doubt Apple would allow the phone planto be too expensive. I would say 60-80 a month.
Finally!
I can't believe it took me until the 94th post to finally read something about this. It was the FIRST thing I noticed in that interview. This pretty much points to interoperability with Word/Excel docs. Check this top-ten of Google Apps listed on CNET (http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-9239_7-6546759-1.html). We already know that 8 of the 10 apps listed will be on the iPhone (whether it's using the Google version or the Apple version of the same software). The only other two listed are "Writely" and "Spreadsheets" - Google's version of Word and Excel. I think it's a safe bet that both those apps will be on the iPhone...and if they are, then you can expect Apple stock will go through the roof as this is one of the hangups among analysts.
-Joe
I can't believe it took me until the 94th post to finally read something about this. It was the FIRST thing I noticed in that interview. This pretty much points to interoperability with Word/Excel docs. Check this top-ten of Google Apps listed on CNET (http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-9239_7-6546759-1.html). We already know that 8 of the 10 apps listed will be on the iPhone (whether it's using the Google version or the Apple version of the same software). The only other two listed are "Writely" and "Spreadsheets" - Google's version of Word and Excel. I think it's a safe bet that both those apps will be on the iPhone...and if they are, then you can expect Apple stock will go through the roof as this is one of the hangups among analysts.
-Joe
Without iPhone & iPod news what would we have.
Just as Apple took Computer out of their name, Apple has taken the Mac out of the news. This leaves MacRumors with nothing other than iPhone & iPod rumors to report on. Just look at what there is to read about. There's more reported on the iTV, AppleTv than all of the Mac computer area. And they say the Mac was dead under the PPC time frame. It seems as if that trend has continued during the current Intel Mac computer time.
I'd like to see a Mac Rumor again on the MacRumor sight.
Bill the TaxMan
Just as Apple took Computer out of their name, Apple has taken the Mac out of the news. This leaves MacRumors with nothing other than iPhone & iPod rumors to report on. Just look at what there is to read about. There's more reported on the iTV, AppleTv than all of the Mac computer area. And they say the Mac was dead under the PPC time frame. It seems as if that trend has continued during the current Intel Mac computer time.
I'd like to see a Mac Rumor again on the MacRumor sight.
Bill the TaxMan
Bye Bye Pay As U go Ghetto Plans!
Woot! This is great news! Going back to what I posted on the other thread -
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/306632/
We need a "Unlimited Everything" for this phone. one price per month for all the features and NOT a "nickel & dime" me for every feature plan.
This is GREAT news! I'm so happy that the
iPhone isn't branded as some cheap 7-11 Food Stamp Walmart Pre-Paid Ghetto Phone plan for the Homeless.
Exactly what I was hoping they would do!
Everyone else that uses a phone 10 mins a month, browses the Internet 2 times a year - Need not apply. Wait for the Widescreen iPods later this year.
Woot! This is great news! Going back to what I posted on the other thread -
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/306632/
We need a "Unlimited Everything" for this phone. one price per month for all the features and NOT a "nickel & dime" me for every feature plan.
This is GREAT news! I'm so happy that the
iPhone isn't branded as some cheap 7-11 Food Stamp Walmart Pre-Paid Ghetto Phone plan for the Homeless.Exactly what I was hoping they would do!
Everyone else that uses a phone 10 mins a month, browses the Internet 2 times a year - Need not apply. Wait for the Widescreen iPods later this year.
Exactly! Use a phone 2 times a year? Need not apply here.
7*11 Trak Phones still available with pre-paid cards at Walmart & Target!
dont mean to be rude here, but i think you forgot what it is like to be young. aside from that, many, if not all adults do NOT need a phone that also is an ipod.
the kid probably does need a cell phone. this day and age, if i was a parent i absolutely would want my child to have a phone. so what if he wants it to also be able to house his music.
also, i think you are wrong about "reinforce bad habits like blowing your money on a shiny tech product rather than thinking about whether you actually NEED it." kids like kevin saving up actually does the opposite. it can teach them the value of the dollar and how to save. a skill you will need for years to come. start a baby on baby food first, not a steak. he'll learn to save now for the small and later save for a house.
i am sure you had stuff you didnt "need" as a kid, but wanted.
Google's Calendar App and iCal
Is it just me, or does Google's Calendar utility look just a weeeeeeeee bit like Apple's iCal?
http://www.google.com/intl/en/googlecalendar/tour2.html
Certainly no coincidence. I suspect these two are going to merge application features utilizing synchronization on the iPhone.
My, could Google begin to manage .Mac?
Is it just me, or does Google's Calendar utility look just a weeeeeeeee bit like Apple's iCal?
http://www.google.com/intl/en/googlecalendar/tour2.html
Certainly no coincidence. I suspect these two are going to merge application features utilizing synchronization on the iPhone.
My, could Google begin to manage .Mac?
Makes sense to me. If you dont need a phone then folks need to just wait for the New Touch Screen iPods later this year. - Period.
Dont you recall the senario if you are at the gym and "THE CELL PHONE RINGS" it will stop the music and take the call???
Please just wait for the New iPods and stop trying to make the phone "just a music player" with a damn Pay as you go Walmart plan.
PS - Not gonna happen!
Enough of the "I dont have Decent Credit so I need a Pre-Paid option" ideas.
Not gonna happen.
Makes sense to me. If you dont need a phone then folks need to just wait for the New Touch Screen iPods later this year. - Period.
i actually would love to have an iphone with just the internet/phone, no ipod. that woudl be perfect for business users like me.
i have way to much music to fit on the iphone as is. And, i do not want to be bothered with picking and choosing what gets dumped into it. i want all my music to fit in there. however, i dont think many are asking for this, so i will go unheard.
True, but apple IS selling it as a video iPod also. I heard it come right from Steves lips and I do agree it is very tiny as far as space for a video iPod
You might be right about the iPhone, but this isn't an Apple enthusiast site. It's called "MacRumors"....I can see why people might not be interested in the phones and music players. He was just suggesting adding another voting feature.
Personally I don't get the point of voting in the first place. It's not like it affects where the stories appear, and for some reason a few people will always vote negative, even if the story is "AAPL reaches all time high."
Wanna know who?
All the people that have Terrible credit and cant afford a plan want this phone on a "Pre-Paid Walmart Card" just to be cool. All the people who claim they only use the cell phone 10 mins a month and will only visit a website 2 times a year want this "to be cool".
Everyone wants the BMW but done have 2 dimes to rub together - want this phone for the "other features".
Those are exactly the ones that WONT have this phone.