You are wrong. You do NOT have to pay off the phone before selling it. The only time this would become a factor is if the buyer wanted the phone unlocked.
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ATT Next is a huge scam! Is it still possible to get 2 year iPhone 6s+ contract w AT&T?
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You are wrong. You do NOT have to pay off the phone before selling it. The only time this would become a factor is if the buyer wanted the phone unlocked.
That's right. I got both of our 6's unlocked 3 mo's after I bought them on NEXT. I just requested it and ATT sent me the unlock codes. That would never happen on a subsidized phone.
No, you don't. And using caps doesn't make your statement any less false.
I've sold a phone on Next before I paid it off. You're quite the expert for someone who has never used the plan and believes it to be a scam.
You can sell the phone, smash it on the concrete, put it in a blender or shoot it with an AR-15. AT&T could not care less as long as you continue to make your monthly payments.
You are only required to pay the phone off prior to sale if you wish to unlock the phone before you sell it. Perhaps that is where your confusion is coming from?
Nothing about the Next plan bans you from selling your device. If the buyer is uninformed or apathetic enough to accept a used phone that still has payments left on it, that's their deal.
If the original buyer stopped paying the monthly installments ATT could blacklist the phone. As far as I'm aware, they are not in the practice of doing that, however, that's their call. They put out a loan for the full MSRP of the item and reserve the right to get back their money in whatever means they see fit.
IMO buying s phone still on Next is never a good idea. If the guy skips out on laying, at Best, you'll never get that device unlocked. But you guys are right. I could sign up for next and immediately hand that phone over to someone else to use and, as long as they're in ATT, they would have zero issues
If the original buyer stopped paying the monthly installments ATT could blacklist the phone. As far as I'm aware, they are not in the practice of doing that, however, that's their call. They put out a loan for the full MSRP of the item and reserve the right to get back their money in whatever means they see fit.
IMO buying s phone still on Next is never a good idea. If the guy skips out on laying, at Best, you'll never get that device unlocked. But you guys are right. I could sign up for next and immediately hand that phone over to someone else to use and, as long as they're in ATT, they would have zero issues
The point is you have to pay off the remaining months on the phone even if you sell it.
A year into the next program I will have paid around 600 for a 6+ 124 gb. even if I sold it at this point I would be responsible for the remaining payments whereas with 2 yr subsidy I'm paying just around 600 to own the phone outright
It is simple math.
So I have 3 lines currently, two iPhone 6 64GBs 1 year into 2 year contracts, and a dumb phone out of contract on a 15GB plan.
I was thinking of updating to a 64GB iPhone 6s using the upgrade from the dumb phone account. Since I am on a 15GB plan, I figured switching to Next and getting the 25 dollar line discount would have been worth it, but the math doesn't seem to add up.
Am I missing something or is the above correct? It seems like because I have a dumb phone who contract is offset from my phone line, I can update every year and its still cheaper if I go the contract option because I can sell the phone after the year instead of having to trade it in when using Next 12. Is that right?
I guess the other option that I hadn't thought of until the reading the last few posts would be to sell the phone after 1 year away, but still make payments for 20 months, but even then, it seems like that doesn't add up.
I was thinking of updating to a 64GB iPhone 6s using the upgrade from the dumb phone account. Since I am on a 15GB plan, I figured switching to Next and getting the 25 dollar line discount would have been worth it, but the math doesn't seem to add up.
Am I missing something or is the above correct? It seems like because I have a dumb phone who contract is offset from my phone line, I can update every year and its still cheaper if I go the contract option because I can sell the phone after the year instead of having to trade it in when using Next 12. Is that right?
I guess the other option that I hadn't thought of until the reading the last few posts would be to sell the phone after 1 year away, but still make payments for 20 months, but even then, it seems like that doesn't add up.
i'm 10 months (of 20) into my NEXT account, and i just sent an unlock request through their website and was denied. it said my next payments hadn't been completed. were yours paid off before you requested the unlock?
You are still paying for the phone in monthly payments if you subsidize, and it's costing you more than $600. Yes, as been pointed out numerous times, for people on old plans Next isn't a good option in comparison to subsidized plans, while on the new plans it can be a better option. The point is that it's not a scam, just another option which can be better for some whole not so much for others, like many other options are.
There was a period where f
There was period of time where AT&T was unlocking phones on NEXT and on contract. There's a huge thread about it. I was able to get my iPhone 6 unlocked within a month of purchasing it. As far as I'm aware, they've pretty much stopped allowing it. I tried recently to unlock a phone for a friend and was denied about four times.
Of course you do. No carrier is going to give you a $600-$900 phone and simply let you walk away.
This isn't any different than being under contract, selling the phone and having to continue in the contract or pay an ETF.
I'm really not sure why you're feeling the need to stress this.
Again, I've never argued that Next is a better option for you. Most people in this thread aren't arguing this. I'm sure your math is fine and you've made the best choice for yourself (although I'm not sure how you figure AT&T is giving you a phone that costs at least $649 for $600).
The problem is that you've stated that it is a scam in absolutely terms when you seem to have gaps in your understanding about how it works.
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Nope, still paying on them. I don't know why they were unlocking phones back then, but there was a whole thread about it on here
Personally think att service has been excellent last 6 years, have had two lines, free number changes, every activation fee dropped, they gave me free 5000 rollover minutes because I was running low and didn't want to upgrade from 450 minutes. You may have had bad customer service, but I cannot speak badly. I've never had a bad conversation via 611. Always a sweetheart lady who tends to me lol.
I personally roll unlimited data:text and 450 mins with 25% discount before tax it's $72 a month, $75-77 with all fees and tax included.
I'm currently 9 months into my 20 month next plan for a 5S I picked up last year. I plan on buying the AT&T 6S outright from Apple. Could I pay off the remainder of my balance on the 5S and just swap the SIM to avoid any activation charges? I plan to sell the 5S to recoup some money on the 6S.
Good question,
I'm able to swap the sim of my iPhone 6 and Lumia phone. Of course the last time I did that, ATT was not charging for activations. I suspect if you're not changing anything on the plan and will be paying off the NEXT contract you should be ok. I'd try it and report back .
I have had them for years. And I would say the same. Never had to call with billing errors, service was great as I mentioned, and pricing was steep but I was loyal. But when you rather lose your customer who was paying $110 a month and has payed their bill on time every month for about 8 years, IIRC, than to resolve an issue, then you are not the company I would want to give my money to. This was dealing with 611 who sent me to the store, in person who told me they can't help and to contact 611, and then being passed back and forth to different people for 2 weeks. Yea, I will pass.
Based on the fine print, if you are already on a Next plan and are going to a new Next plan, there should be no fee. Ditto no fee if you BYOD. The current fees are $45 for entering a subsidized contract (whether you have one now or not), or $15 for a Next contract on a line that currently doesn't have one.
So I have 3 lines currently, two iPhone 6 64GBs 1 year into 2 year contracts, and a dumb phone out of contract on a 15GB plan.
I was thinking of updating to a 64GB iPhone 6s using the upgrade from the dumb phone account. Since I am on a 15GB plan, I figured switching to Next and getting the 25 dollar line discount would have been worth it, but the math doesn't seem to add up.
Am I missing something or is the above correct? It seems like because I have a dumb phone who contract is offset from my phone line, I can update every year and its still cheaper if I go the contract option because I can sell the phone after the year instead of having to trade it in when using Next 12. Is that right?
I guess the other option that I hadn't thought of until the reading the last few posts would be to sell the phone after 1 year away, but still make payments for 20 months, but even then, it seems like that doesn't add up.
You missed the ETF you have to pay every year for violating the two year contract. If you are upgrading every year your definitely gonna have to pay that. Not sure how much that is but starts at over $300.
Not relevant anymore because 2 year contracts are gone, but you are correct. AT&T charged 250$ for an early upgrade fee. So that was tacked on to your phone upgrade cost. Year 1 is 199, Year 2 is 449, Year 3 is 449. Which would ultimately make it more expensive. Almost $400 more expensive after 3 years.
AT&T does not charge an activation fee when you move your SIM between devices
That really sucks, big time. I'm glad I just got in, under the wire, on the 2 year contract. I made my own installment plan and have already started paying myself installments for my "NEXT" iPhone. In 2 years I will have the full purchase price and not have to deal with those "pay in installments" plans from carriers and . . . yeah, Apple too. And I'm not charging myself any additional fees or interest. LOL
Next doesn't have any interest or anything like that. Just the price of the phone spread out in payments. More or less like a contract.
Not really, with NEXT you pay the full price of the phone but under a 2 year contract the cost of the phone is subsidized so you don't pay the full price for the phone.