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ATT vs Verizon : Let the cat fight begin
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All I can say is too bad I'm stuck on AT&T's ****** network for another year 🙁
Can't even surf the net in Manhattan, although they have gotten a lot better with the whole dropping calls thing here.
Can't even surf the net in Manhattan, although they have gotten a lot better with the whole dropping calls thing here.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
Unfortunately yes. I'm glad we finally have a choice in the US.
You must have had other issues...(or it's not CDMA you're recalling). CDMA prioritizes voice over data. If you get a call while using data, the data stream is paused and the call comes through. Not once did I experience a call going to VM.
Not sure, but someone on this forum mentioned that somehow their mobile hotspot on their BB worked through voice calls??? They just couldn't browse the web themselves.
Doesn't make sense to me. It would have to have 2 radios to do that.
D1G1T4L
macrumors 68000
Yes I know voice is given the priority but I'm telling you for years that wouldn't always happen. I would get voice mail notifications while surfing the web.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
D1G1T4L
macrumors 68000
I had that happen mostly with Sprint about 5 years ago. They may have improved it but that is what pushed me off the Sprint network.
CDMA networks seem more likely to have calls go straight to voicemail than GSM and especially UMTS networks. I believe that this is due to the ANSI switching.
The switching (back end of the network) for CDMA is ancient, the exact same tech used for AMPS (analog).
Qualcomm DID market CDMA with GSM MAP core switching (they called it GSM 1X), but no carrier took them up on it. It lost two of the main advantages of CDMA - analog compatibility and lack of removable security (SIM card). Removable security is a benefit for customers, and required by law in many countries, but carriers hate it. Qualcomm even offered removable security on CDMA with ANSI switching in the form of a CSIM card (SIM compatible), but again, no one took them up on it except in China (CSIM is used on CDMA in China to meet removable security mandates)
The switching (back end of the network) for CDMA is ancient, the exact same tech used for AMPS (analog).
Qualcomm DID market CDMA with GSM MAP core switching (they called it GSM 1X), but no carrier took them up on it. It lost two of the main advantages of CDMA - analog compatibility and lack of removable security (SIM card). Removable security is a benefit for customers, and required by law in many countries, but carriers hate it. Qualcomm even offered removable security on CDMA with ANSI switching in the form of a CSIM card (SIM compatible), but again, no one took them up on it except in China (CSIM is used on CDMA in China to meet removable security mandates)
Kebabselector
macrumors 68030
Seems like there are, well certainly with AT&T and Verizon.
I can't say I've seen any fanboyism in the UK with our 5 iPhone suppliers.
Personally I have never had problems with ATT. I had Verizon briefly and had loads of issues with their coverage and thus went with ATT. Been over 4 years and no problems. The only leg up I see with Verizon is they are going to offer an unlimited data plan. But really all I see here is people who have ATT will stay and people with Verizon who want an ihone will buy one. By the way I had the worst costumer serves ever with Verizon. And they swore up and down it would work where I lived, which was not the case. Then it took a month or so to get my money back. ATT on the other hand was the only one that did have coverage where I lived and I get full bars. And I even find when I travel I have yet to not be covered. And as to the augment to dropped call I hardly ever get any. I have had like maybe 4 or 5 in the last couple of years. But that's not more or less than any of my friends who are on any other network. So I guess every one has there thing. And as for now I have no reason to leave ATT and I love my iphone. I just wish it had stayed an ATT exclusive..... But oh well I guess it was bound to happen one day.
Why? It benefits us who stay with AT&T as well. It gives AT&T competition and reason to try to be competitive.
For example, it would be very easy for Verizon to offer a much better package with hotspot capability that if they do it right, could tempt AT&T customers, even those happy with AT&T, to leave. That could encourage AT&T to get more reasonable about their tethering fee which is ridiculous (either give you some GBs for the fee or let you tether for free or something). And if verizon offers "unlimited", AT&T might be pressured to bring that back to appeal to new customers (or even to keep newish ones that couldn't get grandfathered from leaving when their contract is up).
einmusiker
macrumors 68040
I agree and I'm have similar circumstances. ATT has actually improved and works very well for me now. When I travel, that is sometimes an issue, so I'll be picking up iPhone5 on verizon
New Antenna Break?
Anyone else notice that iPhone pictured on the Apple splash page has an antenna break right about the silence switch.
Anyone else notice that iPhone pictured on the Apple splash page has an antenna break right about the silence switch.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
The fact I can upgrade to the new iPhone on AT&T makes me want to stay. Verizon has killed the early upgrade and I'm not about to pay full retail price every new iPhone. Actually I'll be paying for two since I need to get one for the wife.
r0k
macrumors 68040
No Verizon logo. Check.
No GPS lockouts to force you to use VZ Navigator. Check.
VZ Navigator and Vcast aren't even loaded on the phone at delivery. Double Check.
My most frequently used app? Mark the Spot. (not quite true but close) There is a technical problem with Mark The Spot. I launch it when I'm having a problem so it gets the correct location. Then the app stupidly tries to send immediately, from the problem area and keeps trying until I get to a good coverage area. Finally I get a text message thanking me for my report. Those text messages sometimes arrive 45 minutes later meaning it was close to 45 minutes for Mark The Spot to find enough of a signal to submit my report. And I'm never quite sure if it's using the GPS where I had the problem or if it's using the GPS when it finally finds a clear enough signal to submit the report.
Now I turn my attention to deciding how many months (times 10 bucks off my $325 ETF) I want to wait before going back to Verizon. I know I can sell my iPhone 4 to make some of that up, but does the availability of a Verizon iPhone affect At&t iPhone 4 resale prices? I think it does.
No GPS lockouts to force you to use VZ Navigator. Check.
VZ Navigator and Vcast aren't even loaded on the phone at delivery. Double Check.
My most frequently used app? Mark the Spot. (not quite true but close) There is a technical problem with Mark The Spot. I launch it when I'm having a problem so it gets the correct location. Then the app stupidly tries to send immediately, from the problem area and keeps trying until I get to a good coverage area. Finally I get a text message thanking me for my report. Those text messages sometimes arrive 45 minutes later meaning it was close to 45 minutes for Mark The Spot to find enough of a signal to submit my report. And I'm never quite sure if it's using the GPS where I had the problem or if it's using the GPS when it finally finds a clear enough signal to submit the report.
Now I turn my attention to deciding how many months (times 10 bucks off my $325 ETF) I want to wait before going back to Verizon. I know I can sell my iPhone 4 to make some of that up, but does the availability of a Verizon iPhone affect At&t iPhone 4 resale prices? I think it does.
Wicked1
macrumors 68040
Correct me if I am wrong, but 99% of what I have seen is Lack of service, or dropped calls is what everyone is firing away at AT&T for , not their network speed??? 🙄
Wicked1
macrumors 68040
Verizon has almost the same
$15 for 150 MB
$30 for Unlimited Email Web Only
$45 for Unlimited Web Email for Corporate Networks
Outside of the Unlimited Plan Verizon is offering, there is no difference and I think once Verizon gets a load of how much bandwidth is getting sucked up one of three things will likely happen:
AT&T will offer the same plans as Verizon?
Verizon will offer plans similar to AT&T now?
Verizon will stick to what it has, and AT&T will stay with what it offers (however this is unlikely, although no one has followed T-Mobile or Sprint with $99 for unlimited everything
Seriously? Verizon's unlimited is for email only?
If this is truly what they offer, I'd be going with AT&T if I wasn't with either cause at least I can get 2 GB of not just email (cause email is not what I use the most at all). And they offer a better 15$ plan.
Some one want to verify this cause I have a hard time believing Verizon doesn't have a bigger plan for all data than 150 MB? I fail to see how they would compete with that offering (at least in markets there is decent service from other providers) if those are the only plans they offer. Even if there wasn't decent service with other providers I'd predict people would try the others first, and those with the money or frustrated enough might leave to go to Verizon afterwards (but they would lose some potential customers cause they'd be locked in and not worth it to them to break contract). But I know if I didn't know who had best coverage and I saw those plans vs. AT&T's, T-Mobile's, Sprint's, I'd be chased away.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
Ah, I was wondering how they would compete with just email only.
But when you say email and web, do you mean web as in any program that needs to connect to the web or just web browsers? I'm guessing the former cause it still wouldn't be that competitive to only allow web browsers and email programs.
Geckotek
macrumors G3
It's everything. The other plan above it is just trying to gouge business customers for more money. AT&T has the same setup.
JohnnyQuest
macrumors 68000
No 3G while using voice.
Slower 3G.
May not be getting iPhone 5 this summer.
Yeah, no thanks.
i'm sticking with AT&T and upgrading every summer. It's been working well for me for three years.
The thing is, when people start to complain about something, more people follow in suit, and complaining starts being trendy. Now everyone is under the assumption that Verizon is totally problem-free, which is so not the case. But, I'm fine with it. People can jump ship and free up my network 🙂
Slower 3G.
May not be getting iPhone 5 this summer.
Yeah, no thanks.
i'm sticking with AT&T and upgrading every summer. It's been working well for me for three years.
The thing is, when people start to complain about something, more people follow in suit, and complaining starts being trendy. Now everyone is under the assumption that Verizon is totally problem-free, which is so not the case. But, I'm fine with it. People can jump ship and free up my network 🙂