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No need for it anytime soon. Their network actually works indoors.

TMobile has to do it because of their poor network deployment.

My AT&T service never worked at my mothers house, my apartment or at work. Which is why I moved to TMO when they announced WiFi calling. Now it works everywhere I need it to. And I actually do get cell service indoors from TMO, 1 dot. But that 1 dot still provided faster data than 4 dots/bars when I was on AT&T. Data was incredibly slow. I travel mostly to big cities and free international roaming is also A+. Plus it's cheaper. Win win for me but everyones experiences differ based on location + needs.

Funny Side Note: I went upstate for apple picking w/ some friends last autumn and as suspected, my TM O service was non-existent. My friend who has AT&T also could not get a signal. friend w/ Verizon, had a poor signal. Friend w/ Sprint...her service was working just fine when we got a bit lost and needed to pull up a map. She laughed at us all. lol
 
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Ha-ha-ha you read my mind. I faster switch to t-mo than att has vowifi.

I travel a lot to Canada and have t-mo second line. I only need LTE 12 band iphone now. Look at NY city, they upgrade 20-40 antennas per week. Somebody can say about Montana coverage. By the time I have time to go there they will have LTE there. Att loosing customers faster and faster here in Boston area. I know that penetration is not good, but value/price is better and better.
 
As an AT&T employee, I can honestly tell you that yes, AT&T is working on Wi-Fi calling. We have been talking about it at the work place more and more. No idea when it is actually going to drop...seriously can't wait

This is Att problem: too much talking.... Don't take it personal

Att is always one-2 steps behind. No vowifi, poor volte coverage, behind Verizon with LTE coverage, the most expensive int. roaming.
 
This is Att problem: too much talking....
I think you're confusing TMobile with AT&T.

Att is always one-2 steps behind. No vowifi, poor volte coverage, behind Verizon with LTE coverage, the most expensive int. roaming.
There's no VoWiFi because it's not needed. I'm not surprised that AT&T is dragging their feet with WiFi calling considering that they have an extensive native voice network compared to both T-Mobile or Sprint who lack coverage to reach certain customers in certain situations. WiFi calling is the often touted solution to augment the existing network for both T-Mobile and Sprint due to their networks being spotty and not as robust as VZW/AT&T. T-Mobile and Sprint haven't built up their networks, which is why they seem to be hell-bent on driving traffic off the macro network over to WiFi.

AT&T's initial VoLTE testing has claimed near 99% reliability in deployed areas. Judging by how Verizon and Tmobile's VoLTE deployments (all the posts on here and HoFo), let them take their time. I have VoLTE in my area via AT&T and it is robust as ever. Never any issues. I can't say the same about my Verizon iPhone 6 and VoLTE.
 
There's no VoWiFi because it's not needed. I'm not surprised that AT&T is dragging their feet with WiFi calling considering that they have an extensive native voice network compared to both T-Mobile or Sprint who lack coverage to reach certain customers in certain situations.

Why do we need streaming!? My VHS tapes work just fine! lol
 
Why do we need streaming!? My VHS tapes work just fine! lol
This line of thinking makes no sense at all. T-Mobile's VoLTE rollout has been a train-wreck at best.

According to reputable testing companies, like RootMetrics, they have the worst call performance nationwide (by a significant margin)... and it can be attributed directly to VoLTE and VoWiFi.

T-Mobile can afford to take risks like this because their network is already mediocre and the TMobile sheep will eat up the marketing non-sense, but what would happen with AT&T's call reliability went down? They would be crucified.
 
This line of thinking makes no sense at all. T-Mobile's VoLTE rollout has been a train-wreck at best.

According to reputable testing companies, like RootMetrics, they have the worst call performance nationwide (by a significant margin)... and it can be attributed directly to VoLTE and VoWiFi.

T-Mobile can afford to take risks like this because their network is already mediocre and the TMobile sheep will eat up the marketing non-sense, but what would happen with AT&T's call reliability went down? They would be crucified.

I dunno. My TMO service works great. I've never dropped a call, unlike my time w/ AT&T where that was quite common. My data is faster, it works in more places, it costs less. Every network has issues but TMO at least seems to be trying to fill the gaps and fix them. Whereas AT&T never bothered. The "AT&T Sheep" seem to parrot what corporate is feeding them as well. I had plenty of issues at AT&T. WiFi calling has literally fixed those issues for me. I was on AT&T for 15 years, across 3 different states. I had problems. Left for TMO when the new iPhones came out & WiFi calling roll out. I could not be happier with my service. That is based on my experience. My experience is pretty reputable.
 
My experience is pretty reputable.
That's valid, but you're also in TMobile's strongest market. I'm not going to argue against that. They are fantastic in NYC.

Come up North. I'm in Boston and travel all over the Northeast. The coverage/reliability isn't even close to what AT&T and Verizon offer. Even the drive from NYC to Boston... T-Mobile doesn't even have HSPA over the entire route. LTE/HSPA go drops down to EDGE/GPRS over and over again, whereas the big 2 offer 100% LTE.
 
That's valid, but you're also in TMobile's strongest market. I'm not going to argue against that. They are fantastic in NYC.

Come up North. I'm in Boston and travel all over the Northeast. The coverage/reliability isn't even close to what AT&T and Verizon offer. Even the drive from NYC to Boston... T-Mobile doesn't even have HSPA over the entire route. LTE/HSPA go in and out, whereas the big 2 offer 100% LTE.

I'm originally from Seattle where there are many AT&T dead spots. Seattle! AT&T HQ is in Redmond, not far away. I travel to SF, LA, Chicago, Miami for work. I drove up to RI & MA last fall, everything worked fine in all those places. I didn't notice any drops in my service when I was driving up. I was concerned about it but my GPS maps got me to where I needed to go. And you're right, it doesn't have LTE all the way up but the 3G was equally fast as the LTE speeds I had on AT&T so I wasn't bothered by it at all. Yes, I tested it. *Engineering major waves hello*

Service is different for all people and it does depend on your location & your needs but I find your TMO bashing to be hilarious/ludicrous. You just come off as out of touch and a straight up hater. Or an AT&T robot. I'm sure you're a very nice person but really, you should get off this train.

I'd also like to point out that I used to work for AT&T. I was quite loyal for a very long time. I worked in their advanced data department. They did have the best service for a long time, pioneers even. But the fact that they've delayed advancing their tech and using "we don't need to" when it's very clear to many users that have problems on their network that they do, is old man get-off-my-lawn syndrome.

You want to know who has the best service everywhere? Verizon.
 
II drove up to RI & MA last fall, everything worked fine in all those places. I didn't notice any drops in my service when I was driving up. I was concerned about it but my GPS maps got me to where I needed to go. And you're right, it doesn't have LTE all the way up but the 3G was equally fast as the LTE speeds I had on AT&T so I wasn't bothered by it at all. Yes, I tested it.
If you take Merrit Parkway (Rt. 15N) towards Mass, you'll notice what I'm saying. There is LTE on this major highway, but it frequently drops in and out and your phone camps on EDGE/GPRS more often than not.

Same thing can be repeated on 684, 84, 91, 90, 395, and even 95 if you're not near a major city. The network is simply not dense enough and you get stuck on 2G, whereas AT&T/Verizon are on LTE the entire time.

T-Mobile claims nationwide 4G, but that's not true at all, especially with all the holes.

Service is different for all people and it does depend on your location & your needs but I find your TMO bashing to be hilarious/ludicrous. You just come off as out of touch and a straight up hater.
Ironic because I pay for my AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile services. Just because you don't agree with me, doesn't mean I should be labeled a fanboy or hater.

This goes both ways. I'm not directing this at you whatsoever, but am saying this in general. There are plenty of T-Mobile "sheep" out there (and on here) who can't have a calm conversation about their service pitfalls. It only has to be praising the company or they start to personally attack you. Frankly, it's pretty immature.

I'd also like to point out that I used to work for AT&T. I was quite loyal for a very long time. I worked in their advanced data department. TAnd they did have the best service for a long time, pioneers even. But the fact that they've delayed advancing their tech and using "we don't need to" when it's very clear to many users that have problems on their network that they do, is old man get-off-my-lawn syndrome.

Guess it all depends on location, location, location. AT&T has VoLTE and Carrier Aggregation deployed here and are running a far denser network to T-Mobile. Go look at my post history in the speed test thread. I've been seeing 90+ mbps on their network regularly all over the state of Massachusetts. Zero issues at all.
 
So does insisting that AT&T's network is so great when many many people on this thread have said otherwise out of their own personal experience. And still, you insist.
Again, I wasn't directing that comment at you at all. You seem to have your head screwed on straight.

If AT&T (or Verizon) are really as terrible as the TMobile fans say, why do they still continue to have 2x the customers of T-Mobile...

And this is the end of this argument. Not wasting my time bickering over hot air.

Good day.
 
Again, I wasn't directing that comment at you at all. You seem to have your head screwed on straight.

If AT&T (or Verizon) are really as terrible as the TMobile fans say, why do they still continue to have 2x the customers of T-Mobile...

And this is the end of this argument. Not wasting my time bickering over hot air.

Good day.

I think the question here is why is AT&T losing more and more customers to TMO every quarter? AT&T's network is vast, therefore upgrading their towers takes a lot more time and a lot more $ than TMO putting in new towers and upgrading the ones they already have to expand their network. That is understandable. But AT&T has had some time to come with a plan to implement WiFi calling but it hasn't told us what that road map or timeline is, if there is one.

I will say this, if AT&T had shown that they were making real movement towards WiFi calling to fix the holes that *I* was experiencing on their network, I probably would have stayed. But they didn't. So I went elsewhere. I may go back to AT&T one day if they add WiFi calling and offer better plans, offer free roaming (important to me as I travel internationally as well) and perhaps act like they care about their customer base. Relying on the fact that they *currently* have more subscribers than TMO is a losing attitude. I don't have a contract w/ TMO so it isn't an issue to switch carriers.
 
I think you're confusing TMobile with AT&T.

....AT&T's initial VoLTE testing has claimed near 99% reliability in deployed areas. Judging by how Verizon and Tmobile's VoLTE deployments (all the posts on here and HoFo), let them take their time. I have VoLTE in my area via AT&T and it is robust as ever. Never any issues. I can't say the same about my Verizon iPhone 6 and VoLTE.

I had plenty disconnected calls when I crossed Boston VoLTE border. I opened case with att and they agreed that there was a problem on their side. They agreed to drop all my contracts and gave me 200 dollars. So... I was in 1%

T-mo "grows" (better to say borrows) very fast and in 1/2 year Att has 3 options 1. Low their prices 2. go out of business or 3. "print" more stocks like Amazon or Netflix, increase their P/E ratio, like most of the companies including t-mo doing.
 
I have a T-Mobile iPad and an Att iPhone. Wife has a Verizon work iPhone and all have their strengths and weaknesses. ATT is better in most places where I go, I'm an airline pilot, but in certain places the iPad has better signal strength. I was thinking of leaving Att but I have full strength service in my house with Att while T-Mobile is one dot on my iPad sitting in the same chair yet T-Mobile has better service in different airports. Wife's Verizon sucks in Washington, D.C.
 
I have a T-Mobile iPad and an Att iPhone. Wife has a Verizon work iPhone and all have their strengths and weaknesses. ATT is better in most places where I go, I'm an airline pilot, but in certain places the iPad has better signal strength. I was thinking of leaving Att but I have full strength service in my house with Att while T-Mobile is one dot on my iPad sitting in the same chair yet T-Mobile has better service in different airports. Wife's Verizon sucks in Washington, D.C.

Had an iPhone 5 with Verizon at the time when I visited D.C. for the last few days of December 2012.

My hotel was in Arlington, only minutes away from both D.C. and MD.

Horrible coverage. 1 bar of service, no LTE and my data didn't work. No LTE in freakin' D.C., yet it worked back home in small town Ohio?!

I remember the CS rep saying it didn't work because my phone was "sticking" and trying to connect to the towers in Ohio...

BS.
 
I have a T-Mobile iPad and an Att iPhone. Wife has a Verizon work iPhone and all have their strengths and weaknesses. ATT is better in most places where I go, I'm an airline pilot, but in certain places the iPad has better signal strength. I was thinking of leaving Att but I have full strength service in my house with Att while T-Mobile is one dot on my iPad sitting in the same chair yet T-Mobile has better service in different airports. Wife's Verizon sucks in Washington, D.C.
With t-mo you can get free signal booster to your house. I did the same. Now I have full coverage at home, but speed is still slower 5-6 vs20-30
 
This is Att problem: too much talking.... Don't take it personal

Att is always one-2 steps behind. No vowifi, poor volte coverage, behind Verizon with LTE coverage, the most expensive int. roaming.

This is actually really funny. when I was in training, we actually got to learn why we have less LTE coverage than Verizon. Verizon updates there towers from 3G to LTE. That way, usually no matter what, if you are connected to a Verizon tower, you have LTE. Now, that is all fine and dandy, but what we do at ATT is put more towers up. Once a new network speed becomes available, instead of updating our towers, we just put new ones at way, you have more bars in more places. Also, because of our GSM signal, we have the strongest LTE signal in the nation.
 
Looks like there is now an option for wifi calling on AT&T with the new ios 9 beta 5. Turning it on gives an error message though.
 
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1868620-I-have-WiFi-Calling-on-my-iPhone-6

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You are more fanatic of cell network than I'm :) Thanks for the good news. I tried my phone with NY area code here in MA, doesn't work :-( I also have Illinois area code phone, tried it, no success. Some sources says that it is only for unlimited calling plans, not grandfather plans
Doesn't work for me either.

I have a local Mass number. Hopefully in a few weeks.
 
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