ATT will throttle you for 2gb of Data or more

[lordofthereef]

I like it, Now if ATT said they were targeting the top 1% that uses 50% of the data, that I can understand, but the top 5% I do not.

It's worth pointing out that this study simply was on mobile subscribers and not AT&T. As such, there may very well be a larger number of people abusing the ATT network. After all, their 3G is significantly faster. My biggest issue seems to be how they pick and choose who gets throttled and when. There are people just hitting 2GB , even in major cities, that are getting slapped while there are people going 5+ in major cities without issues.

 

[redbeard331]

The mindset that corporations should be able to do whatever they please, having to abide by no rules, laws, ethics, or regulations is a dangerous one. I believe AT$T's top executives are no better than a common thief, the feds should be stepping in to investigate them and make the appropriate arrests. Of course that will never happen in a corporatist state, they sure do have a lot of suckers out there fighting for them, pretty sad.

The day will come that even the people defending AT$T will get throttled and then they'll turn into a "whiner" as well.

If AT$T had any good will towards their customers they'd at least rollover our unused data under 2 gigs every month, we lose that data we don't use but pay for.

 

[Tinmania]

The mindset that corporations should be able to do whatever they please, having to abide by no rules, laws, ethics, or regulations is a dangerous one. I believe AT$T's top executives are no better than a common thief, the feds should be stepping in to investigate them and make the appropriate arrests. Of course that will never happen in a corporatist state, they sure do have a lot of suckers out there fighting for them, pretty sad.

The day will come that even the people defending AT$T will get throttled and then they'll turn into a "whiner" as well.

If AT$T had any good will towards their customers they'd at least rollover our unused data under 2 gigs every month, we lose that data we don't use but pay for.

Yea flower power, man. Oh yea, welcome to 2012. A lot has changed since 1967. Your simpleton view of this issue was quaint, I'll give you that much.




Michael

 

[Hellvalley]

Yea flower power, man. Oh yea, welcome to 2012. A lot has changed since 1967. Your simpleton view of this issue was quaint, I'll give you that much.




Michael

Michael, we all understand that you "love" AT&T and are willing to roll over because "times have changed." You obviously have no back bone. The fact is, if you want change, you can't sit there and do nothing.
What happens when the US government outlaws guns? Are you just not going to care? What about when the US government passes SOPA, you'll just accept it? What about when they take away your freedom of speech, just going to allow that to happen?

You've made your point very clear, if you have nothing useful to say, then do you really need to troll this thread? Most likely not.

Now, I do agree complaining on this thread will not get us anywhere, but it is a start. Who knows, we all just might start a lawsuit against AT&T.
Accept that we're here complaining/discussing this. If you have nothing useful to say, do you really need to say anything?

 

[chakraj]

Yea flower power, man. Oh yea, welcome to 2012. A lot has changed since 1967. Your simpleton view of this issue was quaint, I'll give you that much.




Michael

Ward; I think you were a little hard on the Beaver.

 

[redbeard331]

Michael, we all understand that you "love" AT&T and are willing to roll over because "times have changed." You obviously have no back bone. The fact is, if you want change, you can't sit there and do nothing.
What happens when the US government outlaws guns? Are you just not going to care? What about when the US government passes SOPA, you'll just accept it? What about when they take away your freedom of speech, just going to allow that to happen?

You've made your point very clear, if you have nothing useful to say, then do you really need to troll this thread? Most likely not.

Now, I do agree complaining on this thread will not get us anywhere, but it is a start. Who knows, we all just might start a lawsuit against AT&T.
Accept that we're here complaining/discussing this. If you have nothing useful to say, do you really need to say anything?

In any society there are those that are willing to accept anything, it is because of this that corporations like AT$T get away with the things they do.

Looks like Tinmania is stuck in 1885.

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Yea flower power, man. Oh yea, welcome to 2012. A lot has changed since 1967. Your simpleton view of this issue was quaint, I'll give you that much.




Michael

I don't think you're qualified to speak on this matter, nor much else.

 

[Tinmania]

In any society there are those that are willing to accept anything, it is because of this that corporations like AT$T get away with the things they do.

Looks like Tinmania is stuck in 1885.

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I don't think you're qualified to speak on this matter, nor much else.

I think you have a ridiculously warped view of the world--and certainly this matter.

The mentality from which you naively speak would not normally be in support of such a small percentage of PEOPLE using a staggering disproportionate amount of a shared resource. It's not about a corporatation. Can you possibly understand that, even a little?

I don't give a rat's azz about AT&T. But I do have a problem with the entitlement attitude displayed on this issue. Cry-babies who cannot get their fill of Netflix. You must be proud to be in their corner on this life-threatening situation (as if there are not other issues with which to go up against "the man" <sigh>).




Michael

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Ward; I think you were a little hard on the Beaver.

I think Lumpy is a better fit!



Michael

 

[maverikv]

I think you have a ridiculously warped view of the world--and certainly this matter.

The mentality from which you naively speak would not normally be in support of such a small percentage of PEOPLE using a staggering disproportionate amount of a shared resource. It's not about a corporatation. Can you possibly understand that, even a little?

I don't give a rat's azz about AT&T. But I do have a problem with the entitlement attitude displayed on this issue. Cry-babies who cannot get their fill of Netflix. You must be proud to be in their corner on this life-threatening situation (as if there are not other issues with which to go up against "the man" <sigh>).




Michael

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I think Lumpy is a better fit!



Michael

Why shouldn't I feel entitled to something I pay for?

 

[Hellvalley]

I think you have a ridiculously warped view of the world--and certainly this matter.

The mentality from which you naively speak would not normally be in support of such a small percentage of PEOPLE using a staggering disproportionate amount of a shared resource. It's not about a corporatation. Can you possibly understand that, even a little?

I don't give a rat's azz about AT&T. But I do have a problem with the entitlement attitude displayed on this issue. Cry-babies who cannot get their fill of Netflix. You must be proud to be in their corner on this life-threatening situation (as if there are not other issues with which to go up against "the man" <sigh>).




Michael

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I think Lumpy is a better fit!



Michael

Michael, you're just like the "99%". Nonetheless, the people who use "netflix" (Why you'd watch netflix on your phone's tiny screen is beyond me) should be throttled. The people who use their phones normally and get throttled is total crap. in this day and age 5GB is totally acceptable, anything above that is not.

Yes, we understand that you're angry because you don't have an unlimited plan.
What happens when AT&T says, "Hey, you can only use 1GB (of your 2GB) at high speed data and the other 1GB at 15Kbit." Are you just going to accept it? Most likely.

You're complaining about the complainers. Doesn't that make you a complainer/whiner? Yes it does.

 

[pooleman]

The mentality from which you naively speak would not normally be in support of such a small percentage of PEOPLE using a staggering disproportionate amount of a shared resource. It's not about a corporatation. Can you possibly understand that, even a little?

So how large is this shared resource? And how much are we 5%ers using? Are there any real spefics? Not "the upper 5% use 90% of all data used". There is nothing anywhere saying exactly how much is available and how much is used. Even if I agree that the upper 5% uses 90%, or whatever you think the figure is, of the data how do we know that this is putting a strain on the network? How do we know that the total usage of ALL AT&T data users isnt well below capacity? Relying on the people taking your money and rationing your service isnt the most reliable source of OBJECTIVE information.

Please answer these humble, naive questions with specifics figures.

 

[NikeTalk]

AT&T should be able to produce some reports by now. I honestly would like to see what the "abusers" numbers really look like and not just this whole top 5% nonsense. I wanna see something that says the top 5% uses X amount of data. Having been an iPhone user since the beginning 2-4gb isnt that hard to do so i'm gonna go out on a limb and say ~6-7gb would place you in the top 5%.

 

[redbeard331]

I think you have a ridiculously warped view of the world--and certainly this matter.

You don't know anything about my views of the world, although I think everybody can clearly see what kind of worldview you hold, and it's not a good one, you share a view with many other deluded people in history that blame the victim no matter what. And you clearly don't understand or don't care about what AT$T is doing here, proven by how quick you are to turn personal and start hurling insults, takes the discussion of off AT$T.

The mentality from which you naively speak would not normally be in support of such a small percentage of PEOPLE using a staggering disproportionate amount of a shared resource. It's not about a corporatation. Can you possibly understand that, even a little?

And yet you make up "facts" to suit your childish argument that it's only a small percentage of people using "a staggering disproportionate amount of a shared resource" when it's clear that it is NOT. You're full of it.

I don't give a rat's azz about AT&T. But I do have a problem with the entitlement attitude displayed on this issue. Cry-babies who cannot get their fill of Netflix.

People who are getting throttled at 1.3-2 GB's are obviously not streaming video all day and have a right to complain, it doesn't make them "cry-babies" as you try to dismiss their legitimate anger at being hosed by AT$T. People pay for unlimited, the fact that you use the word "entitlement" in describing them says world's about your elitist attitude.

You must be proud to be in their corner on this life-threatening situation (as if there are not other issues with which to go up against "the man" <sigh>).

Dismissing the fact that a corporation is making millions of dollars off of outright screwing their customers by making claims nobody has, is pretty petty, are you an AT$T lawyer?

 

[Cheplampardfan]

Any unlocked iphones or android phoned getting throtteled? I just but an unlocked samsung galaxy s2 off cl and im worried about getting slowed

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Any unlocked iphones or android phoned getting throtteled? I just bought an unlocked samsung galaxy s2 off cl and im worried about getting slowed

 

[redbeard331]

Michael, you're just like the "99%". Nonetheless, the people who use "netflix" (Why you'd watch netflix on your phone's tiny screen is beyond me) should be throttled. The people who use their phones normally and get throttled is total crap. in this day and age 5GB is totally acceptable, anything above that is not.

Yes, we understand that you're angry because you don't have an unlimited plan.
What happens when AT&T says, "Hey, you can only use 1GB (of your 2GB) at high speed data and the other 1GB at 15Kbit." Are you just going to accept it? Most likely.

You're complaining about the complainers. Doesn't that make you a complainer/whiner? Yes it does.

And in this day with ever more data hungry apps every day, thing like Siri and the Cloud, it is getting easier for people to use more data than in the recent past, throttling people for normal use is total BS. What's the point of having a smartphone with all these features if AT$T is going to cripple it?

 

[chakraj]

Redbeard is right. Take me for example, I never got throttled. But why should I even have to worry about it? Why after paying for unlimited and barely using any of it for four years should I be made nervouse about a possible throttle. I do not do buisiness with sheisty or shady corporations. SO I fired @ATTFAIL, and took my money else where.

They are breaking their contract and we have rights. Its not the fact (I never even got throttled) its the principal of the thing.

I dont care if its a penny or a million dolloars a theif is a theif. I dont care if its just a small breach of contract, a breacdh is a breach. Just because some of you didnt get unlimited doesnt mean I can not enjoy it if I have it.

 

[Hellvalley]

Any unlocked iphones or android phoned getting throtteled? I just but an unlocked samsung galaxy s2 off cl and im worried about getting slowed

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Any unlocked iphones or android phoned getting throtteled? I just bought an unlocked samsung galaxy s2 off cl and im worried about getting slowed

Yes, iPhones, Android, WinMo7 and BB are all being throttled. It is not based on the phone you have, it is based on the Unlimited Data package.

 

[Hellvalley]

Well, they finally throttled me exactly at 2GB. What's unfair about all of this is, their new tiered plans are $30 for 3GB, unlimited data users should get at least 3GB now.

I'll have more information tomorrow after I call them.

 

[rgarjr]

Sucks dude, call them and give'em heat.

 

[Hellvalley]

Sucks dude, call them and give'em heat.

I plan to. What sucks is, my phone's wifi recently stopped working. So my phne is now kinda unusable....

 

[chakraj]

What happened with your issue, no data and no Wifi. That sucks

 

[naddie]

It's good to see I'm not the only one. I am also throttled at 2 GB (specifically, 2.2 GB).

I keep track of my data usage like a hawk. I got my warning text at 1.5 GB. Then got a throttle text at 2.2 GB.

I wrote about it here:

When I first got the warning:
http://www.guytechie.com/articles/2012/1/21/att-warns-data-usage-below-2-gb.html

When I actually got throttled:
http://www.guytechie.com/articles/2...s-at-22-gb-for-30-less-than-3-gb-30-plan.html

This "top 5%" is BS, and is a cop out. It lets AT&T throttle at any point they choose in practice. Even if they go by the book, the chilling effect will cause the throttle point to lower using this method of throttling. People will be more afraid to use data, and thus the "top 5% of data users" will lower the throttle point. It's an evil plan that works in AT&T's favor.

1) People will relent and get rid of their Unlimited Plan for a tiered plan, which fulfill AT&T's wish to get rid of this plan (much like Sprint and SERO).

2) People will just leave, but will be dinged for early termination fees. I tried to cite breach of terms and conditions, but they said we had ample warning since it was announced on August 2011. However, they said "top 5%", so who knew it was going to be this low? Even so, they said it wouldn't be considered a breach because the fine print even says that AT&T can change the terms without prior consent (or something like that).

Hey, that's good... I should add that to my blog.

So AT&T wins either way.

 

[cyks]

2) People will just leave, but will be dinged for early termination fees. I tried to cite breach of terms and conditions, but they said we had ample warning since it was announced on August 2011. However, they said "top 5%", so who knew it was going to be this low? Even so, they said it wouldn't be considered a breach because the fine print even says that AT&T can change the terms without prior consent (or something like that).

They first announced the plan to throttle the top 5% at the end of last July and sent the notice to everyone (included in their bills) in August. Throttling didn't go into effect until October. That was a full 2 months warning and anyone could have fought and left at that point without paying an ETF. They're allowed to change the terms without prior consent, but you're also allowed to leave if you don't agree to them... so long it's within a timely manner after the announcement of changes.

For years, AT&T has stated that 98% of their users use 2GB of data or less. Well, if only 2% use more than 2GB and they're throttling the top 5%, it's not rocket science to see where they were planning.

 

[PNutts]

The mindset that corporations should be able to do whatever they please, having to abide by no rules, laws, ethics, or regulations is a dangerous one.

I agree, but who has that mindset? I haven't heard it voiced or demonstrated.

If AT$T had any good will towards their customers they'd at least rollover our unused data under 2 gigs every month, we lose that data we don't use but pay for.

I assume you are talking about a 2GB plan. If so, you are paying for up to 2GB every month (cap). What you don't use is your business.

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They are breaking their contract and we have rights.

I dont care if its a penny or a million dolloars a theif is a theif. I dont care if its just a small breach of contract, a breacdh is a breach.

I suggest you speak with an attorney and see what damages you can expect.

 

[chakraj]

Actually you agree to arbitrate any issues in the wireless terms of service.

However thats still a great idea, to arbitrate and get remedy!

Good thinking.

 

[Wide opeN]

They don't have to worry about me giving up my unlimited plan.

Because in my book AT&T is superior than Sprint.

The good guys will figure a way around this.

Viva UNLIMITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!