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ATT will throttle you for 2gb of Data or more

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lordofthereef said:
All you can eat restaurants can and do reserve the right to kick you out for eating to much. AND it has happened before...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=os9jz8vQ2PA
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/26/national/main613621.shtml

That's with a quick Google search.

We can thank the idiots who were transferring dozens of gigs a months on their unlimited plans for this throttling. I highly doubt ATT would even have cared to implement something like this if people hadn't been tethering as their home internet connection saying "I paid for this data I will use it how I want". No, no you won't. In fact, things were made much worse for the rest of us.
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I agree. Things like this have always had an implicit caveat: "within reason." People didn't want to hear that and just kept parroting "unlimited" as if it was a birthright. Well now it is coming to and end. Somehow I think they will manage.

But by far the worst of the worst were those whose mentality was: "I paid for unlimited 3G, damned if I was going to use WiFi!"




Michael
 
chakraj said:
You can not have a contract that says you can change the contract at any time you want. Well you can but it won't hold up in court. Now if they said it has an option if you go over so much in so much time that will work. However that is not in the contract.
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You are confusing TOS and contracts. You don't have to be on a contract: the TOS applies to all. If you don't like the TOS then you should be getting service elsewhere. Don't expect not to see a very similar TOS on any other carrier though.

In this case the contract's primary purpose is not to define service. It is to ensure you stay around long enough for the carrier to recoup any subsidies given to you.



Michael
 
well I got so frustrated at my slow speed that I had to contact at&t and get on data pro 4GB :( no more unlimited :(
 
chakraj said:
You can not have a contract that says you can change the contract at any time you want. Well you can but it won't hold up in court. Now if they said it has an option if you go over so much in so much time that will work. However that is not in the contract.
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You keep throwing this court thing around this and other threads. You seem incredibly sure of yourself. Why don't you take this to court? This is a serious question. You stand to win boatloads of cash as well as the support of many people across the nation (who will likely start tossing money at you in praise as well).
 
lordofthereef said:
You keep throwing this court thing around this and other threads. You seem incredibly sure of yourself. Why don't you take this to court? This is a serious question. You stand to win boatloads of cash as well as the support of many people across the nation (who will likely start tossing money at you in praise as well).
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I actually already have something going on in that department, and I can only take one at a time.

I am not against AT&T, I am pro rights. I don't know why we keep bumping heads, I am just saying stand up for what you think is right and within your rights. When you sign a contract keep it, and make the other party stand to it. Many people and corporations especially will push you around because most people won't stand up for their rights.

Instead of telling me what to do, why don't you try to educate those around you? That's all I am doing, I'm sorry if that offends you.

And to be clear I didn't say it was guaranteed to win. If it were they would cease and desist. I am saying that they will stop when we stop them and not before.

You are only intitled to the benefit of a contract if you hold the other party to said contract. You are allowed to give away any right you want. But that's your choice, I choose to stand on mine.
 
chakraj said:
I actually already have something going on in that department, and I can only take one at a time.

I am not against AT&T, I am pro rights. I don't know why we keep bumping heads, I am just saying stand up for what you think is right and within your rights. When you sign a contract keep it, and make the other party stand to it. Many people and corporations especially will push you around because most people won't stand up for their rights.

Instead of telling me what to do, why don't you try to educate those around you? That's all I am doing, I'm sorry if that offends you.

And to be clear I didn't say it was guaranteed to win. If it were they would cease and desist. I am saying that they will stop when we stop them and not before.

You are only intitled to the benefit of a contract if you hold the other party to said contract. You are allowed to give away any right you want. But that's your choice, I choose to stand on mine.
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You don't offend me in the least. And I am not trying to tell you to do anything, I was merely questioning why you don't do anything if you are so sure of yourself. It is just a serious and legitimate question I had. You have stated many times that none of this will hold up in court. It's just strange to me that nobody is slamming AT&T in the court if it "will never hold up".

You state you are just educating people. Your educating seems to be comprised of statement like "ATT can't do this" and little more. Who, exactly, do you claim to be educating? I would think that it would take just a little more information than that to get the average guy on board with your ideas, but who knows. After all, this is the internet.

If you are saying you started a case with ATT, great! I'd love to hear the results of the court-case and sincerely wish you the best. If it is as cut and dry as you claim, you shouldn't have to wait very long at all for a ruling in your favor.
 
No not AT&T. Another case all together. My argument works for me because I signed something and have it. That is the hill I am standing on, my argument does not consist of "AT&T can't do this" you may have gotten me confused with others.

My argument has been contract based and may or may not have validity. However it seems you are sure it does not. So I guess we would go to court and find out. Should another have the resources to do so I would happily join, however my resources are being directed in another direction at this time.
 
chakraj said:
No not AT&T. Another case all together. My argument works for me because I signed something and have it. That is the hill I am standing on, my argument does not consist of "AT&T can't do this" you may have gotten me confused with others.

My argument has been contract based and may or may not have validity. However it seems you are sure it does not. So I guess we would go to court and find out. Should another have the resources to do so I would happily join, however my resources are being directed in another direction at this time.
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First you tell me you are educating. Now you are saying your argument may not even be valid? I give up man.

The statement regarding "ATT can't do this" is paraphrasing. You clearly think ATT is in the wrong, and that a court case will solve things, hence, ATT can't be doing what they are currently doing, legally. Sorry for not explicitly spelling that out before...

I am not at all sure that ATT is 100% within their right. I do know that if it was as easy a win as you have lead on in most of your posts, it likely would have been decided long before today.
 
If you guys want to continue to argue like two small children I suggest you take it to PMs as the people who come here do not care about the petty differences.

This is about AT&T throttling you after 2GB or more. Not about AT&T's contract itself. If you want to discuss AT&T's contract I suggest that you create a post to do so.

Thank you.
 
lordofthereef said:
First you tell me you are educating. Now you are saying your argument may not even be valid? I give up man.

The statement regarding "ATT can't do this" is paraphrasing. You clearly think ATT is in the wrong, and that a court case will solve things, hence, ATT can't be doing what they are currently doing, legally. Sorry for not explicitly spelling that out before...

I am not at all sure that ATT is 100% within their right. I do know that if it was as easy a win as you have lead on in most of your posts, it likely would have been decided long before today.
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Everyone reads things differently as demonstrated by you saying that I claimed to be "educating people" when it is clear that what I said was "why don't you educate those around you" since their seems to be an issue with understanding the simple language of this thread I can understand how a contract may be confusing.

You speak in absolutes "you seem so sure it will work" I have never said nor implied that I was "sure" you see one word can have huge meaning and change the whole meaning of a contract.

Please look through the thread and find where I said "I am sure this will work", or stop misquoting me please.

Hellvalley; that is a fair request, I will withhold any further arguments.
 
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chakraj said:
Everyone reads things differently as demonstrated by you saying that I claimed to be "educating people" when it is clear that what I said was "why don't you educate those around you" since their seems to be an issue with understanding the simple language of this thread I can understand how a contract may be confusing.

You speak in absolutes "you seem so sure it will work" I have never said nor implied that I was "sure" you see one word can have huge meaning and change the whole meaning of a contract.

Please look through the thread and find where I said "I am sure this will work", or stop misquoting me please.

Hellvalley; that is a fair request, I will withhold any further arguments.
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Here is what you said:
Instead of telling me what to do, why don't you try to educate those around you? That's all I am doing, I'm sorry if that offends you.
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How is there difficulty understanding what was said?

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Hellvalley said:
If you guys want to continue to argue like two small children I suggest you take it to PMs as the people who come here do not care about the petty differences.

This is about AT&T throttling you after 2GB or more. Not about AT&T's contract itself. If you want to discuss AT&T's contract I suggest that you create a post to do so.

Thank you.
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Thanks for the offer, but I feel this does pertain to the topic. If all you want to talk about is ATT throtting you specifically, you need go no further than the title of the thread. It has within it everything you need to know. "ATT is indeed starting to throttle people once they go over 2GB used for the month". We are discussing whether they are within the right to do so, and why, or why not.
 
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See no one is inflatable. I make mistakes also :) (that is why try not to speak in absolutes) I owe you an oppology on that point Sir/Ma'am(not trying to be insulting just never. Asked). I truly don't want to argue and if I do argue, I don't want to argue with fellow users. I would happily argue in their favor though. Lets let this thread stay on topic for those who are and have been throttled. I don't think either of use have yet have we?

I still stand by my opinion. But we obviously do not see eye to eye on it, I can accept that and move forward (should this ever go to court I hope the judge, does not hold your opinion)
 
Hellvalley said:
If you guys want to continue to argue like two small children I suggest you take it to PMs as the people who come here do not care about the petty differences.

This is about AT&T throttling you after 2GB or more. Not about AT&T's contract itself. If you want to discuss AT&T's contract I suggest that you create a post to do so.

Thank you.
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You do realize that asking people to leave a thread pretty much never works, right? Yes, even if adding "thank you."



Michael
 
chakraj said:
See no one is inflatable. I make mistakes also :) (that is why try not to speak in absolutes) I owe you an oppology on that point Sir/Ma'am(not trying to be insulting just never. Asked). I truly don't want to argue and if I do argue, I don't want to argue with fellow users. I would happily argue in their favor though. Lets let this thread stay on topic for those who are and have been throttled. I don't think either of use have yet have we?

I still stand by my opinion. But we obviously do not see eye to eye on it, I can accept that and move forward (should this ever go to court I hope the judge, does not hold your opinion)
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No worries. It's sir, and I wouldn't have gotten upset about that anyway. Personally, I like a good debate when each party brings good points to the table.

Frankly, if this does go to court, neither your opinion, my opinion or anyone else's opinion should matter. Court cases should always be settled on fact alone. My opinion is that it is unacceptable that AT&T is throttling people. Whether they are in their legal rights to do so? I am leaning towards yes. Does that make it ok? No, but the way to show disdain is to leave the company and drop their services entirely.
 
Collectively, we need to work together to find a loophole such as the Unlimited Data loops.

I have several ideas outside the box, will test them this weekend. If we can get unlimited data, I'm sure we can find a way to get pass a throttle.

Think different. :apple:
 
this was me for awhile. however i still use 10k-15k a month in minutes..... thank god they dont throttle those.

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i havnt been using iphone as much clearly. but never once got slowed down.
 
Unfortunately for a few of us, we have been singled out and selected to be throttled at unreasonable speeds.

No confirmed threshold. No consistency. No information.

But it would be nice for ATT to clarify the information, so we could avoid being throttled 5 days into a billing cycle :)

Legionnaire said:
this was me for awhile. however i still use 10k-15k a month in minutes..... thank god they dont throttle those.

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i havnt been using iphone as much clearly. but never once got slowed down.
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Beautiful chart, could you purposely try to use more data for the sake of experimentation. Find out what "is" your threshold.
 
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Tinmania said:
You do realize that asking people to leave a thread pretty much never works, right? Yes, even if adding "thank you."



Michael
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I wasn't asking them to leave per se. I just rather not have this thread turn into some war about who is right and who is wrong. You know?


Anyway, It seems that they're throttling based on how much you use in a certain time frame. Like for me, my billing cycle is on the 7th of every month and in a week I used 2GB, which would roughly put me at 8GB at by next billing cycle.

So perhaps if we spread our usage out we wouldn't get throttled? Just a thought.
 
Hellvalley said:
I wasn't asking them to leave per se. I just rather not have this thread turn into some war about who is right and who is wrong. You know?


Anyway, It seems that they're throttling based on how much you use in a certain time frame. Like for me, my billing cycle is on the 7th of every month and in a week I used 2GB, which would roughly put me at 8GB at by next billing cycle.

So perhaps if we spread our usage out we wouldn't get throttled? Just a thought.
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I don't think they have predictive/estimated threshold.
Some are getting throttled late in the billing cycle just past 2gb.

It's completely inconsistent, doesn't matter where you're located, how much you have used prior, current rate of usage, type of phone, fan account or not, account age, and even in my case, throttled me 3 days before I received the Top 5% msg. Go figure.
 
thinkdiesel said:
Correct, unfortunately for a few of us, we have been singled out and selected to be throttled at unreasonable speeds.

No confirmed threshold. No consistency. No information.

But it would be nice for ATT to clarify the information, so we could avoid being throttled 5 days into a billing cycle :)



Beautiful chart, could you purposely try to use more data for the sake of experimentation. Find out what "is" your threshold.
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go to att.com
your chart is in your data in my att.com ;0 thats where i found mine.
 
thinkdiesel said:
I don't think they have predictive/estimated threshold.
Some are getting throttled late in the billing cycle just past 2gb.

It's completely inconsistent, doesn't matter where you're located, how much you have used prior, current rate of usage, type of phone, fan account or not, account age, and even in my case, throttled me 3 days before I received the Top 5% msg. Go figure.
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Perhaps someone could call and find out what is up with it? But the reps never know what's going on anyway....
 
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