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The sad part is, AT&T has every right to do data throttling. People who used 10-100GB of data ruined it for all of us.
There will be a time when only a handful of people have unlimited data.

That's why I encourage people to tether now against their TOS so their accounts will be terminated/capped and there will be more for me! :D
 
The sad part is, AT&T has every right to do data throttling. People who used 10-100GB of data ruined it for all of us.
There will be a time when only a handful of people have unlimited data.
Exactly. I have said countless times that that was going to cause unlimited to be taken away but the general attitude was that there was no real problem with network capacity. The worst, however, are those who used 3G to the max when WiFi was available because they paid for "unlimited" and were going to use it as much as possible (or because using WiFi was some kind of inconvenience with which they could not be bothered).



Michael
 
That's why I encourage people to tether now against their TOS so their accounts will be terminated/capped and there will be more for me! :D

Aren't you a nice individual. (Sarcasm)


Exactly. I have said countless times that that was going to cause unlimited to be taken away but the general attitude was that there was no real problem with network capacity. The worst, however, are those who used 3G to the max when WiFi was available because they paid for "unlimited" and were going to use it as much as possible (or because using WiFi was some kind of inconvenience with which they could not be bothered).

Michael


I know. The people who've done nothing wrong get punished because of the abusers. lol
 
It's always about profit not network bandwidth issues. Sure if we all use like crazy then AT&T will have issues but currently AT&T isn't having issues just finding another way to milk a bit more money out of us.
 
It's always about profit not network bandwidth issues.
That is the kind of thinking that caused this to happen in the first place.

To me this is just blind speculation when you have no idea what the network situation is actually like.

I would also point out that the throttling program took money to create. And what does AT&T get in return? The same $30 per month. Even if those throttled below 2 GB switched to a 2GB plan that would be a net loss of $5 per month. But feel free to keep ranting about it being only about $$$$.



Michael
 
That is the kind of thinking that caused this to happen in the first place.

To me this is just blind speculation when you have no idea what the network situation is actually like.

I would also point out that the throttling program took money to create. And what does AT&T get in return? The same $30 per month. Even if those throttled below 2 GB switched to a 2GB plan that would be a net loss of $5 per month. But feel free to keep ranting about it being only about $$$$.



Michael

It's not entirely based on blind speculation. They're a private company. Any company's ultimate goal is to create profit anyway possible while still trying to be within the legal limits. You really think they would give a thought twice about the consumer unless there's a large complaint involved?

If it takes money involved to create, why create it in the first place? It's just wasteful spending that benefits no one. Not the consumer. Not the company (because of reputation). No one.

Furthermore, if profit isn't an issue, why not give free text messaging to consumers. It actually costs VERY VERY little for text messaging anyways and it could help attract more customers.
http://gthing.net/the-true-price-of-sms-messages

And in reality, do you really think it's fair, if you paid for a service, yet there's strings attached? Actually, that's for every service, just some of them aren't as cruel as AT&T has been.
 
It's not entirely based on blind speculation.
It's always about profit not network bandwidth issues. Sure if we all use like crazy then AT&T will have issues but currently AT&T isn't having issues just finding another way to milk a bit more money out of us.

You said it's not about bandwidth issues because there are none. That is basically the definition of blind speculation, unless of course you have some inside information that the average consumer does not.
 
If it takes money involved to create, why create it in the first place? It's just wasteful spending that benefits no one. Not the consumer. Not the company (because of reputation). No one.
I'd like to think they did it to save capacity for the 98% of their subscribers who don't use a chit-load of 3G data every month. But that does not matter: they are doing it and obviously they did it for a reason.

As for the minority who did use a ton of data? Personally I think AT&T would rather they just go away or switch to a tiered data plan. It's not wise to plan your business around a very small percentage of customers who use disproportionally more infrastructure than the norm.



Michael
 
You said it's not about bandwidth issues because there are none. That is basically the definition of blind speculation, unless of course you have some inside information that the average consumer does not.

If it was about network issues, why would they continue to offer unlimited data to non-smartphones and not throttle those who use in excess (I have recently topped 50GB without issue)?
 
The funny thing is, when all the really heavy users get angry and leave, the top 5% of data users actual data usage will drop and some of the people whining about "Data hogs" will be the new "data hogs." Maybe then they will see how ridiculous this policy is.
 
That seems to be the case... coupled with how non-smartphones are not throttled regardless of how much data they use, this proved that this is strictly about profit and not network congestion.

Exactly, which, also, is why AT&T didn't win approval for T-Mobile, because it was NEVER about the alleged spectrum crunch.

As with the merger, as well as throttling, it's all about GREED!!!
 
The funny thing is, when all the really heavy users get angry and leave, the top 5% of data users actual data usage will drop and some of the people whining about "Data hogs" will be the new "data hogs." Maybe then they will see how ridiculous this policy is.

Exactly!!!
 
Just got an email warning about my data usage. How can I be in the top 5% when I'm at 2.1 gb with 5 days left on my billing cycle? AT&T is full of it!!
 
The funny thing is, when all the really heavy users get angry and leave, the top 5% of data users actual data usage will drop and some of the people whining about "Data hogs" will be the new "data hogs." Maybe then they will see how ridiculous this policy is.
Nonsense. Naively ignores the fact that hardly anyone is even on unlimited plans anymore and tiered plans are not throttled.

As for me since in the 4+ years I have owned an iPhone I had only exceeded 1 GB once (1.2 GB) I dropped unlimited as I felt I was only subsidizing those who used far more than I did. I usually am below .5 GB. I am not unusual: I am well within the norm of the other 95%.

So not only did I save a few bucks per month I also have little to fear regarding throttling. Actually I wouldn't even notice if I was throttled. I don't stream netflix 24/7 or anything else that needs high data-rates. I check stocks, banking, news, email, etc. It does not bother much when on EDGE which is about the same as throttling speeds. The only thing I don't like about being in an EDGE area is that there is no voice and data at the same time. But throttled 3G would not have that drawback.

So what was your point again?



Michael
 
Nonsense. Naively ignores the fact that hardly anyone is even on unlimited plans anymore and tiered plans are not throttled.

As for me since in the 4+ years I have owned an iPhone I had only exceeded 1 GB once (1.2 GB) I dropped unlimited as I felt I was only subsidizing those who used far more than I did. I usually am below .5 GB. I am not unusual: I am well within the norm of the other 95%.

So not only did I save a few bucks per month I also have little to fear regarding throttling. Actually I wouldn't even notice if I was throttled. I don't stream netflix 24/7 or anything else that needs high data-rates. I check stocks, banking, news, email, etc. It does not bother much when on EDGE which is about the same as throttling speeds. The only thing I don't like about being in an EDGE area is that there is no voice and data at the same time. But throttled 3G would not have that drawback.

So what was your point again?



Michael

I'm really glad you found a pricing plan that fits your data usage. I selected one that fits my data usage. Unlimited. You know, without limits. If you are going to advertise your phone by showing that it can play Netflix movies, YouTube Clips, stream Pandora, and store and retrieve music and high-res photos from the cloud as well as browse full page websites, and then call it abuse when your customers use the phone for EXACTLY what you advertised it as capable of doing, then I think that is absolutely ridiculous. I didn't buy a wireless device so I could sit at home and use it on my wifi network.
 
Even though your getting throttled or scolded for using more than 2gbs of data, how many of you had left AT&T?
 
I'm really glad you found a pricing plan that fits your data usage. I selected one that fits my data usage. Unlimited. You know, without limits. If you are going to advertise your phone by showing that it can play Netflix movies, YouTube Clips, stream Pandora, and store and retrieve music and high-res photos from the cloud as well as browse full page websites, and then call it abuse when your customers use the phone for EXACTLY what you advertised it as capable of doing, then I think that is absolutely ridiculous. I didn't buy a wireless device so I could sit at home and use it on my wifi network.
Wifi. It's not just for home anymore.

I do that stuff and yet manage to average .5GB per month. Must be lucky. Along with the other 98% of us lol.



Michael
 
Wifi. It's not just for home anymore.

I do that stuff and yet manage to average .5GB per month. Must be lucky. Along with the other 98% of us lol.



Michael


Trust me, I live in New York. I use WIFI whenever I can, because the 3G service is terribad. When there is no WIFI I use my 3G. I can go over 2GB easily. Sometimes over 5. I do not make it a point to use excessive data, but I do use Netflix occasionally and Pandora often. I also subscribe to iTunes match because I have a large music library. I do not see how any of these things are unreasonable as I am using advertised features of my phone and apps that I legally downloaded from the App store.
 
Trust me, I live in New York. I use WIFI whenever I can, because the 3G service is terribad. When there is no WIFI I use my 3G. I can go over 2GB easily. Sometimes over 5. I do not make it a point to use excessive data, but I do use Netflix occasionally and Pandora often. I also subscribe to iTunes match because I have a large music library. I do not see how any of these things are unreasonable as I am using advertised features of my phone and apps that I legally downloaded from the App store.
Actually I would have thought somewhere between 5 and 8 GB would have been the target range but apparently AT&T thinks otherwise.



Michael
 
Plain and simple, they've made the Unlimited data plans obsolete.

What good is unlimited if right when you hit >2GB, they throttle your speed?

So basically the plan is now, "2gb, then after that, unlimited SLOWNESS"

I hope the past posts are true, that this happens only in major areas/cities. I live in Columbus GA, 100 miles south from Atlanta. This would take me out of that "range"
 
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