Australian Retailer Ready for 'Cat and Mouse' Game with Apple over Galaxy Tab Sales

[FrankieTDouglas]

If you were a "diehard apple fan", you would have immediately understood its significance, both present and future, when Steve was comfortably swiping around on it in an easy-chair onstage.

He said he was diehard, not blind and ignorant to shortcomings.

 

[4nNtt]

What a ridiculous statement. Someone can love Apple and what they do and not like every single product.

And who says he doesn't understand anything - he just finds the device, in his opinion, not of much use to 99 percent of the people. Whether he's accurate or not - it's his opinion. That doesn't mean he doesn't get it. Nor does it mean that he's any less of an Apple fan because he doesn't praise the device as the jesus tablet...

Actually it is testable, so it is not an opinion. It is just wrong.

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And how'd they copy the iPad exactly?

Through Google. And Google used insider information before the iPhone was released.

 

[kntgsp]

Looks like an Aussie version of Psystar. We all know how stuff like that turns out.

No it does not. They are not selling Apple software on non-Apple hardware. Apples and bowling balls.

They are selling a product that has nothing to do with Apple whatsoever, regardless of Apple's laughably stupid lawsuits. Good on them. Even if the Australian courts punish them it's still a giant middle finger in Apple's face that they'll have to sit there and look at. Apple can't do anything about it.

The Australian court system is what dMavo will have to argue with, but Apple's opinion on the matter is utterly irrelevant.

 

[Renzatic]

Through Google. And Google used insider information before the iPhone was released.

No they didn't. Hell, this subject has been covered countless times on this very forum.

 

[rockrigo]

Through Google. And Google used insider information before the iPhone was released.

you are basically saying Steve Jobs and the whole Apple Board were too stupid to prevent this, you know since they approved his hiring

 

[Porco]

The thing with cat and mouse games is that when the cat catches the mouse it doesn't usually end well for the mouse.

Real life is not a Tom & Jerry cartoon.

 

[gri]

I find it interesting in reading the Steve Jobs book that Wozniak's dad always taught Woz to hang in the middle, never be #1 or at the top of anything. I've shared this philosophy because I know what happens to those at the top. They have everyone shooting at them. The one thing human society hates more than a loser is a winner and they seek to bring them down. Look at Microsoft. Without Bush's intervention, it would have been broken up. Martha Stewart made a fortune from nothing and yes, she had to be brought down. Apple is now in the unenviable position of leader in a number of categories with the whole world shooting at it and based on the past, this does not bode well for the future. But what does one do? Hobble one's self?

You want to settle for mediocrity? Not really following Apples motto.

 

[peteullo]

Seems like a lot of work for something that no one wants to buy.

 

[gri]

The bravery is respectable, and the stupidity observable. Good luck, retailer v.s. (1st or 2nd) most valuable company in the world.

Exactly - Apple has more money - only for a few days - then the US of A. And they want to go against that, how stupid is that? Apple can afford to sit out and drag a lawsuit, they have to pay lawyer fees.

 

[Renzatic]

The thing with cat and mouse games is that when the cat catches the mouse it doesn't usually end well for the mouse.

Real life is not a Tom & Jerry cartoon.

Real life also isn't a literal cat and mouse chase.

 

[gri]

I agree. I play with the iPads in stores and i could never think of a use for it.

Thought so too - until I got one. Check the news and mail every morning. Did presentations (scientific ones) on it as well, wish Keynote integration would be better though...

 

[acidfast7]

Thought so too - until I got one. Check the news and mail every morning. Did presentations (scientific ones) on it as well, wish Keynote integration would be better though...

Not real scientific presentations, that wouldn't be possible.

 

[batchtaster]

That's because it doesn't (still) have a useful function. The "inexpensive" versions are crippled without 4G/LTE, while the 3G-enabled versions are very close in price to an MBA without a valid input method. I own a ton of apple gear, but just don't see the need for an iPad.

I think the problem here is that you're expressing your opinion without being clear you're expressing only your singular opinion and experience, rather than making declarative statements of fact, particularly since millions of people apparently don't share your opinion; you use loaded words such as "useful", "crippled" and "valid", but only the word "I" once, and only in relation to your possessions.

If 4G/LTE is important to you, then fine, iPad might not be the product for you. However there are plenty of people who are quite happy with 3G or Wi-Fi. Calling it "crippled" without 4G/LTE is like saying that any computer with less than 8 cores is crippled. Perhaps for you, but there's plenty of people who are quite happy on i5s, i3s... hell, the MBP I'm on now is a Core2Duo and it's fine by me. My mother is on ADSL 1 and she's happy. Her call phone is a monochrome Nokia with the Menu-* lock/unlock thing - her mobile internet speed is 0 bytes per year.

Likewise, I don't even own an iPad - I've used several at work and one of my friends' - but I find the input method completely valid. And enjoyable. If it's "invalid", it's only "invalid" for you, rather than being a wholly inappropriate way of operating a device. And while you might not have found a "useful function", I have. More than once a work iPad has come home with me overnight.

 

[Slurpy2k8]

LOL @ 'We will not bow down to apple'. A judge made the ruling, not Apple. It's part of the law now.

Also, hilarious how this no-name retailer states it's 'ready' to get into a battle with a $400B company, that has the best legal team this side of the milky way. How exactly do they think they're ready for that?

 

[iEvolution]

I am all for competition and Apple needs that too, but to be competitive other companies need to innovate their OWN designs, etc.

Sure it would be nice but Apple doesn't own the rectangle, this whole thing is frivolous I can't even believe Samsung can't sell the Galaxy. There is a dozen other tablets out there that look the same as well, Apple going to go after them as well?

Besides copy cats never win anyway, if they want to beat Apple they need to challenge them on the price front or add some unique features/design.

Honestly, I'm insulted that Apple is even worried that much about the Galaxy that they need to make it as big of a issue as it is.

Only a monkey would be confused between a Galaxy and an iPad.

The more competitors the market has the better the upgrades become with each year.

The iPod line is a GREAT indication of what happens when Apple products have no real competition, they don't even bother upgrading anything.

 

[acidfast7]

I think the problem here is that you're expressing your opinion without being clear you're expressing only your singular opinion and experience, rather than making declarative statements of fact, particularly since millions of people apparently don't share your opinion; you use loaded words such as "useful", "crippled" and "valid", but only the word "I" once, and only in relation to your possessions.

I thought readers here were capable of discerning between statements from various sources that may possess alternate perspectives without the need for such a declarative statement. I'm not in the habit of spoon-feeding people.

 

[batchtaster]

I thought readers here were capable of discerning between statements from various sources that may possess alternate perspectives without the need for such a declarative statement. I don't spoon-feed people.

Then it also seems you don't communicate very well.

This is the internet. Tone and subtext don't travel these hallways.

 

[acidfast7]

Then it also seems you don't communicate very well.

Perhaps my expectations are too high.

 

[marksman]

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Hey dMavo, nobody buys Android tablets so don't waste your money fighting Apple on this.

At the end of the day they are a retailer and pissing off suppliers is a bad idea. They need to learn to pick their battles.

This is between Samsung and apple. Getting involved as a retailer is not a good idea. I suspect Samsung will tell them to knock it off because it hurts Samsung.

 

[Brian Buttplug]

What do you expect?
Australia was founded by Convicts (Crooks, Murderers, Rapists etc ...)

And you're the one who got away?

 

[D.T.]

Not real scientific presentations, that wouldn't be possible.

Really?

One my colleagues just gave a lecture on Necrotizing Enterocolitis (in preemies) with plenty of "real" science/clinical content, completely on his iPad (with a majority of the content being authored on the iPad as well).

How would presenting content "not be possible" on an iPad [connected to a digital projector]?

 

[batchtaster]

What do you expect?
Australia was founded by Convicts (Crooks, Murderers, Rapists etc ...)

Where did you get that joke? 1982? Paul Hogan's got a joke about a knife you'll probably like when you hear it in a couple of years.

Your ignorance is showing. The convicts sent to Australia consisted largely of petty criminals, including women and children, such as those who stole loaves of bread to feed their families. Very classy of you, spitting on the poor, huddled masses, doing what they need to in order to survive in a world of over-crowded jails (to the extreme) due to over-criminalization.

Really classy. Because, as a Swede, you'd certainly know that the vikings were never known for their raping, pillaging and murdering.

 

[ChrisTX]

dMavo had a good run as a business while it lasted.

 

[acidfast7]

Really?

One my colleagues just gave a lecture on Necrotizing Enterocolitis (in preemies) with plenty of "real" science/clinical content, completely on his iPad (with a majority of the content being authored on the iPad as well).

How would presenting content "not be possible" on an iPad [connected to a digital projector]?

I have a very hard time believing that publication-quality figures were "authored" on an iPad. Perhaps the content was created elsewhere and displayed/presented with an iPad? In addition, there's no USB slot for a "presenter" (slide changer/green laser point in one device). I also don't think that an iPad has the horsepower to actively display/present/control high-resolution structures or fluorescent microscopic movies. Maybe, if one wanted to present some prepackaged content from a pharma company it would be OK, but not for serious scientific presentation.

It's just too cumbersome to be effective. In addition, people look like they're trying to hard to be cool/hip when presentating with one.

 

[objc]

This company challenging Apple will feel the wrath of god fall upon it.

Whether this is good or bad is, IMO, not the point - it is a reality of capitalism.

An argument of the merits or lack of them regarding capitalism is fodder for another thread.

Except this isn't capitalism. In a free market, you outmaneuver your competitors without the help of the government.