Auto Boot is a sign of Tim Cook's mediocrity

[ThomasJL]

Before Tim Cook became CEO, when a MacBook line laptop's screen was off, it was easy to tell if the computer was still on but in sleep mode, or if the computer was off. In fact, there were two ways to tell: look at the Status Indicator Light (SIL), or press any key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off.

Due to Cook's mediocrity, he allowed the Auto Boot feature to be impemented, so there is now no way to way to tell if a MacBook line laptop is on or off when the screen is off. There is no more SIL (because Cook eliminated it to cut corners and maximize profits for shareholders).

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is open, if a user presses a key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off, the computer will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is closed, since there is no SIL, if a user opens the lid to check whether the laptop is on or off, if it was off, it will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

There is no way to disable that user-unfriendly Auto Boot "feature" from the macOS GUI. It's a bit of a hassle to disable it because a user has to go to the command prompt in the Terminal application and type in a command.

There are many Apple fans who are apologists for Cook's mediocrity, and think he's doing an excellent job because Apple is making gigiantic record profits. They fallaciously think high profits equals high quality products.

When Steve Jobs was talking to his official biographer, Walter Isaacson, Jobs complained, "Tim’s not a product person." The Auto Boot feature is proof that Jobs was right.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Translation = You miss the Status Indicator Light.

 

[chabig]

You have no idea how much money I've made on AAPL since they removed the status light. 😂

 

[Starfia]

Meanwhile, the iPhone and Apple Watch's ability to save people's lives by literally learning and detecting the movements of cars and bodies as well as contacting help via satellites for free is just a coincidence.

 

[lowendlinux]

So it's been 13 years since Steve died how many more years are we going to call Tim a crappy CEO?
When Tim retires are we going to have threads about how this new CEO is crap too or is Tim special?

 

[GMShadow]

So it's been 13 years since Steve died how many more years are we going to call Tim a crappy CEO?
When Tim retires are we going to have threads about how this new CEO is crap too or is Tim special?

Tim Cook Would Never™.

 

[FreakinEurekan]

Another thread for the ignore list. Is there a limit to those on MR? 🤔

 

[Pakaku]

I do like my status light, but I don't think I'm nearly passionate enough about it to write more than this one sentence about it.

 

[ThomasJL]

Translation = You miss the Status Indicator Light.

It's not just that. The bigger problem is my laptop starting up when I don't want it to, and then having to wait until I get to the login screen to shut down the computer.

I cannot open the lid to check to see if the computer is off, because the computer will start up (if it's off) if I open the lid.

I cannot press a key on the keyboard to check to see if the computer is off, because the computer will start up (if it's off) if I press a key on the keyboard.

The fact that Tim Cook either didn't know those were hassles, or knew they were hassles but didn't care, shows that he's not a products person.

 

[halledise]

i think that'd be the last thing the CEO of a $4T company would concern himself with.
also unsure which category this thread belongs in -
the picking of nits or the splitting of hairs …

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

When talking to his official biographer, Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs complained, "Tim’s not a product person." The Auto Boot feature is proof that Jobs was right.

This literally contradicts itself.
Either he’s a product person or he’s not, and if he’s not then it’s highly unlikely he would involve himself with the minutia of the boot-up process of laptops.
When people say Tim “isn’t a product person”, usually they mean that he’s not overly hands-on with every tiny detail of product development, and focuses more on the business side of things.
It’s very unlikely Tim decided anything about the tiny LED indicator.

Also it is absolutely not a certainty that light would have stayed even if Jobs was in charge, him and Johnny were famously obsessed with minimalism, plus shut-downs on macOS have become so rare that there really isn’t a need for a power indicator light. It’s quite possible as it’s utility decreased, Jobs would have eventually seen the LED light as a waste of space with little utility and mercilessly killed it off just like the floppy disc and optical Dr before.
Same goes with all of the old Mac bells and whistles, it’s likely Jobs would have ditched the glowing logo too. Especially as their screens got thinner and thinner.

 

[TechRunner]

As I've said on other threads here at MR...is this satire? This must be satire.

 

[XboxEvolved]

So you think a guy that was the COO for 10+ years should care that you are minorly inconvenienced about your laptop with battery that last for creepy voodoo amounts of time? Ok.

 

[arcite]

What is the use case of shutting down your laptop? Like…who does that any more?

 

[doogm]

I honestly can't believe that anybody thinks that it's Tim Cook who is making specific technological decisions such as whether pressing a key on a MacBook starts the device or whether to remove or keep the status light. I also think that for the vast majority of Mac users, this is a good feature, not a bug.

For what it's worth, though, there is a method to prevent startup on an Apple Silicon MacBook until you press the power key. It's not permanent - just until the next restart - but it's supposed to work.

See https://apple.stackexchange.com/que...book-pro-from-powering-up-by-pressing-any-key

. Left ⌃ and ⌘ as well as Right ⇧ for 7 seconds
- While still holding, hold the power button for 7 seconds
- Only lasts until the next boot

 

[ThomasJL]

i think that'd be the last thing the CEO of a $4T company would concern himself with.

Yes, exactly. Tim Cook is more concenerd about maximizing profits and pleasing shareholders than concerning himself with maximizing user-friendliness funtionality in products.

I honestly can't believe that anybody thinks that it's Tim Cook who is making specific technological decisions such as whether pressing a key on a MacBook starts the device or whether to remove or keep the status light.

Steve Jobs would spend vast amounts of his time making specific technological decisions similar to those. That's why he is a products person and Tim Cook is not. Cook is like a mix of a soulless McKinsey consultant and a soulless Goldman Sachs bankster.

I also think that for the vast majority of Mac users, this is a good feature, not a bug.

Apple fans will defend many user-unfriendly aspects of products released under Tim Cook. When Cook greedily removed chargers from iPhone boxes so Apple could make more money by not subtracting the price of the charger from the price of the iPhone, and then make even more money by selling the chargers separately, the Tim Cook apologists defended that and said it's a good thing. If Cook ever removes chargers from Mac boxes, the Tim Cook apologists will probably defend that decision, too.

 

[attohs]

Step 1. Disable SIP
Step 2. sudo nvram AutoBoot=%00
Step 3. Enable SIP

This isn't a big deal for people who want it disabled, and you're the only one of the four of us complaining.

 

[Allen_Wentz]

Before Tim Cook became CEO, when a MacBook line laptop's screen was off, it was easy to tell if the computer was still on but in sleep mode, or the computer was off. In fact, there were two ways to tell: look at the Status Indicator Light (SIL), or press any key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off.

Due to Cook's mediocrity, he allowed the Auto Boot feature to be impemented, so there is now no way to way to tell if a MacBook line laptop is on or off when the screen is off. There is no more SIL (because Cook eliminated it to cut corners and maximize profits for shareholders).

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is open, if a user presses a key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off, the computer will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is closed, since there is no SIL, if a user opens the lid to check whether the laptop is on or off, if it was off, it will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

There is no way to disable that user-unfriendly Auto Boot "feature" from the macOS GUI. It's a bit of a hassle to disable it because a user has to go to the command prompt in the Terminal application and type in a command.

There are many Apple fans who are apologists for Cook's mediocrity, and think he's doing an excellent job because Apple is making gigiantic record profits. They fallaciously think high profits equals high quality products.

When talking to his official biographer, Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs complained, "Tim’s not a product person." The Auto Boot feature is proof that Jobs was right.

Suffice to say I find the OP post nonsensical. Claiming "Cook's mediocrity" is absurd. I have used every Mac generation since the 128k Mac, and clearly Apple's products are very good; they compete well at the top top end of every category they participate in [exception being Mac Pro, where they really do not participate in the hot box category].

 

[doogm]

Steve Jobs would spend vast amounts of his time making specific technological decisins silimar to those. That's why he is a products person and Tim Cook is not. Cook is like a mix of a soulless McKinsey consultant and a soulless Goldman Sachs bankster.

Steve Jobs also chose Tim Cook to replace him. They's worked together for a long time, so Steve knew who he was choosing and what he would do. He knew he wouldn't get involved in minor technological product decisions. He also reportedly told him to run the company his own way, not the way he thought Jobs would have. Jobs knew that Cook is not a product person but still thought him the best to continue Jobs' legacy.

I'd say that the success of Apple over the last 12 -13 years proved he chose well.

The great thing is that you can buy a PC and run Windows or Linux if you don't like Apple is doing with Macs. Don't spend your money if you don't like it.

 

[Contact_Feanor]

When Steve said that Tim's not a product person, that wasn't a complaint, it was an observation. Steve left Apple to Tim knowing fully well that Tim's not a product person and for the longest time, Tim hasn't meddled with most products directly in the way Steve would. Most of the features you complain about here were implemented by Jony Ive, who was the most product person of them all, when no longer held in check, not because Tim wanted to cut corners and maximize profit.

Edit: Also I'd like to add that the only reason Steve could be a product person as the CEO in the first place is because there was a guy like Tim there to actually run the business as a business. It was one of the lessons Steve had learned at NEXT (and in a way, Pixar): he was good at some things, but not at others. This is why Tim isn't concerning himself with the products, he knows that's not him.

 

[Mr_Brightside_@]

This is the first time anybody has made this point.

 

[Media Pimp]

I'm not even sure what/how to think about this post.

Fascinating.

 

[Bungaree.Chubbins]

Before Tim Cook became CEO, when a MacBook line laptop's screen was off, it was easy to tell if the computer was still on but in sleep mode, or the computer was off. In fact, there were two ways to tell: look at the Status Indicator Light (SIL), or press any key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off.

Due to Cook's mediocrity, he allowed the Auto Boot feature to be impemented, so there is now no way to way to tell if a MacBook line laptop is on or off when the screen is off. There is no more SIL (because Cook eliminated it to cut corners and maximize profits for shareholders).

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is open, if a user presses a key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off, the computer will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is closed, since there is no SIL, if a user opens the lid to check whether the laptop is on or off, if it was off, it will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

There is no way to disable that user-unfriendly Auto Boot "feature" from the macOS GUI. It's a bit of a hassle to disable it because a user has to go to the command prompt in the Terminal application and type in a command.

There are many Apple fans who are apologists for Cook's mediocrity, and think he's doing an excellent job because Apple is making gigiantic record profits. They fallaciously think high profits equals high quality products.

When talking to his official biographer, Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs complained, "Tim’s not a product person." The Auto Boot feature is proof that Jobs was right.

Apple clearly isn't a good fit for you! Maybe you should just ditch whatever Apple products you have left and get the alternative, so you can relax again. You've been angry with Apple for a long time now, you don't have to stay if you don't like it!

 

[ForkHandles]

Wow just imagine how a mediocre ceo can take a company to become worth FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS

Wish I was that mediocre!

 

[VertPin]

OP this is an interesting thing to be fixated about. there are larger concerns with the software than this.

there is a solution to prevent this, indicated in the thread earlier.