Auto Boot is a sign of Tim Cook's mediocrity

[ThomasJL]

Wow just imagine how a mediocre ceo can take a company to become worth FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS

Wish I was that mediocre!

By the logic of that post, in 2009, when both Vista and Snow Leopard were the latest operating systems, Steve Ballmer was a better CEO than Steve Jobs because Microsoft was worth far more than Apple.

 

[lemoncrsh]

What happens if you leave the caps lock button on. I realize you need to keep the lid open but at least it should work.

 

[chabig]

Another thread for the ignore list. Is there a limit to those on MR? 🤔

The limit used to be 1000.

 

[chabig]

I cannot open the lid to check to see if the computer is off, because the computer will start up (if it's off) if I open the lid.

Mac notebooks are some of the most advanced machines ever made. When the lid is closed, they are in a quantum superposition of off and on. When you open the lid to observe it, the quantum state collapses and the machine is always on.

There is only one workaround. You have to remember what state the machine was in when you closed the lid. Then, when you feel the urge to check, don't. Refer to your memory.

 

[turbineseaplane]

i think that'd be the last thing the CEO of a $4T company would concern himself with.
also unsure which category this thread belongs in -
the picking of nits or the splitting of hairs …

A very fair point point

Tim is probably more focused on the next round of stock buybacks to artificially juice the stock price

 

[Sunoo]

If I’m opening the lid of my laptop, it’s because I want to use it. Why wouldn’t I want it to turn on at that point?

 

[turbineseaplane]

If I’m opening the lid of my laptop, it’s because I want to use it. Why wouldn’t I want it to turn on at that point?

Clean the keyboard or screen?

 

[TechnoMonk]

Reminds me it’s high time human body evolve from the body which was built to survive in the world with real life problems. Now we invent new problems.

 

[Sunoo]

Clean the keyboard or screen?

I can’t think of a time I’ve opened my laptop exclusively to clean it, but in the off chance I was, it wouldn’t be that much of a hardship to power it down.

 

[mansplains]

When the efficiency of Apple Silicon consumes negligible power, increasing standby time considerably, what difference does it make?

 

[turbineseaplane]

I can’t think of a time I’ve opened my laptop exclusively to clean it, but in the off chance I was, it wouldn’t be that much of a hardship to power it down.

If you accidentally touch a button, it powers right up again is the problem

Or did they finally fix that?

Honestly, it should simply be a setting and completely up to the user to decide here

 

[Sunoo]

Honestly, now that I think of it, every time I’ve wiped my keyboard, it’s been with the machine powered up and running. Somehow the world hasn’t ended by me doing that.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Honestly, now that I think of it, every time I’ve wiped my keyboard, it’s been with the machine powered up and running. Somehow the world hasn’t ended by me doing that.

It should simply be a user preference setting, like so many other things

Let folks use the devices as they prefer would be my vote

 

[Howard2k]

Before Tim Cook became CEO, when a MacBook line laptop's screen was off, it was easy to tell if the computer was still on but in sleep mode, or the computer was off. In fact, there were two ways to tell: look at the Status Indicator Light (SIL), or press any key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off.

Due to Cook's mediocrity, he allowed the Auto Boot feature to be impemented, so there is now no way to way to tell if a MacBook line laptop is on or off when the screen is off. There is no more SIL (because Cook eliminated it to cut corners and maximize profits for shareholders).

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is open, if a user presses a key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off, the computer will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is closed, since there is no SIL, if a user opens the lid to check whether the laptop is on or off, if it was off, it will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

There is no way to disable that user-unfriendly Auto Boot "feature" from the macOS GUI. It's a bit of a hassle to disable it because a user has to go to the command prompt in the Terminal application and type in a command.

There are many Apple fans who are apologists for Cook's mediocrity, and think he's doing an excellent job because Apple is making gigiantic record profits. They fallaciously think high profits equals high quality products.

When talking to his official biographer, Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs complained, "Tim’s not a product person." The Auto Boot feature is proof that Jobs was right.

Just learn how to use it.

Not that hard.

 

[Howard2k]

Honestly, now that I think of it, every time I’ve wiped my keyboard, it’s been with the machine powered up and running. Somehow the world hasn’t ended by me doing that.

I know, right. Shocking.

 

[ThailandToo]

It's not just that. The bigger problem is my laptop starting up when I don't want it to, and then having to wait until I get to the login screen to shut down the computer.

I cannot open the lid to check to see if the computer is off, because the computer will start up (if it's off) if I open the lid.

I cannot press a key on the keyboard to check to see if the computer is off, because the computer will start up (if it's off) if I press a key on the keyboard.

The fact that Tim Cook either didn't know those were hassles, or knew they were hassles but didn't care, shows that he's not a products person.

I don’t think Tim even is aware of this. He’s not a brilliant or even mediocre product person. He’s a supply chain guru who knows how to maximize profits by ripping off customers; he wants to make the shareholders wealthy so he gets his $100m annually.

 

[aries81]

People really complain about anything and everything these days.

 

[elvisimprsntr]

@ThomasJL

I submitted a feature request for you to add a settings option to disable auto power on. Took less than 30 seconds.

FB16191015

I thought it would be more constructive way to provide feedback.

Since Apple never does anything without a reason, it could be related to an upcoming product or feature.

 

[klasma]

This is unlikely to be Tim Cook's idea, but yes, the trend of removing status lights and not being able to control power-off/sleep behavior is annoying.

 

[txa1265]

Translation = You miss the Status Indicator Light.

hahaha so true.

I personally like this era where my MacBook Air and Mac Mini go into power save mode or sleep so I don't have to worry, then when I want to use them I press a key and they either wake up or restart.

Talk about outrage farming.

 

[lowendlinux]

I can’t think of a time I’ve opened my laptop exclusively to clean it, but in the off chance I was, it wouldn’t be that much of a hardship to power it down.

The problem is the second you touch a button it turns back on, it's kind of annoying but it doesn't rise to this level of criticism or defense

 

[erkanasu]

therapy might be a good option for the OP

 

[Bug-Creator]

Steve Ballmer was a better CEO than Steve Jobs because Microsoft was worth far more than Apple.

Well a CEO works on the behalf of shareholders, so yeah at least for that moment that was an indisputable fact.
Don't like how shareholder based capitalism works? I'm sure you can find plenty other places to discuss that.

As to the original complaint, outside of people with some sort of compulsive disorder I can hardly see it being an issue for anyone.

 

[QuickDraw]

Before Tim Cook became CEO, when a MacBook line laptop's screen was off, it was easy to tell if the computer was still on but in sleep mode, or the computer was off. In fact, there were two ways to tell: look at the Status Indicator Light (SIL), or press any key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off.

Due to Cook's mediocrity, he allowed the Auto Boot feature to be impemented, so there is now no way to way to tell if a MacBook line laptop is on or off when the screen is off. There is no more SIL (because Cook eliminated it to cut corners and maximize profits for shareholders).

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is open, if a user presses a key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off, the computer will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is closed, since there is no SIL, if a user opens the lid to check whether the laptop is on or off, if it was off, it will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

There is no way to disable that user-unfriendly Auto Boot "feature" from the macOS GUI. It's a bit of a hassle to disable it because a user has to go to the command prompt in the Terminal application and type in a command.

There are many Apple fans who are apologists for Cook's mediocrity, and think he's doing an excellent job because Apple is making gigiantic record profits. They fallaciously think high profits equals high quality products.

When talking to his official biographer, Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs complained, "Tim’s not a product person." The Auto Boot feature is proof that Jobs was right.

You have an unhealthy obsession with Tim Cook, in every single of your posts...

 

[nathansz]

Before Tim Cook became CEO, when a MacBook line laptop's screen was off, it was easy to tell if the computer was still on but in sleep mode, or the computer was off. In fact, there were two ways to tell: look at the Status Indicator Light (SIL), or press any key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off.

Due to Cook's mediocrity, he allowed the Auto Boot feature to be impemented, so there is now no way to way to tell if a MacBook line laptop is on or off when the screen is off. There is no more SIL (because Cook eliminated it to cut corners and maximize profits for shareholders).

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is open, if a user presses a key on the keyboard to test whether the computer is on or off, the computer will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

If the MacBook line laptop's lid is closed, since there is no SIL, if a user opens the lid to check whether the laptop is on or off, if it was off, it will turn on and start up again. That is a hassle because if people want their laptop off and are just checking to make sure their laptop is off, it will turn on and start up again, and they have to wait until it boots up and gets to the login screen before they can shut it down.

There is no way to disable that user-unfriendly Auto Boot "feature" from the macOS GUI. It's a bit of a hassle to disable it because a user has to go to the command prompt in the Terminal application and type in a command.

There are many Apple fans who are apologists for Cook's mediocrity, and think he's doing an excellent job because Apple is making gigiantic record profits. They fallaciously think high profits equals high quality products.

When talking to his official biographer, Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs complained, "Tim’s not a product person." The Auto Boot feature is proof that Jobs was right.

Do you spend a lot of time opening and closing your refrigerator to check if the light is off?