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Traditional PC people are stupid. The whole platform is a crappy hack job and the state of it is entirely indefensible at this stage of the industry.
By “PC” this also means the Mac.
He was talking about the traditional, file system based computer.
 
Apple could probably address this "issue" in firmware.
Perhaps a system settings pane with the following choices:
- automatically boot when lid is opened (as it does now)
- boot when any key pressed (but not automatically when opening lid)
- boot ONLY when the finger/ID button is pressed (the "old way")

That would satisfy nearly everyone, I reckon.
 
I bought a couple of these adapters during the USB-A to USB-C transition, and leave one plugged into my M1 Macbook Air all the time for its status indicator light. When it's on the Mac is on, and occasionally it doesn't hurt to have a USB-A adapter handy:

I need the light because I switch between different versions of macOS by shutting the Mac down, then holding the power button to get to the Startup Options screen...without the light, it's hard to know if the Mac is fully shut down and ready to be rebooted, and if you hold the button before it's properly shut down, you end up force-shutting down the Mac yourself accidentally
 
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Wow....did your pour soured milk on your Sugar Frosted Flakes today? It takes a special obsession to continue to deride a CEO to the extent you do over a feature that has been in place for a long time. It's not healthy, just like the soured milk.

Have you tried the easily located online change that can be made to turn off the behavior ?
 
Yes, to use two of the favorite words in recent tech writings, it is creepy and dystopian.
 
People do realize that Windows laptops have this feature too. Right? I have a couple right now.
 
i think that'd be the last thing the CEO of a $4T company would concern himself with.
also unsure which category this thread belongs in -
the picking of nits or the splitting of hairs … ;)
This though is what made Apple so great. Attention to detail. Apple is losing that part of it's product.
 
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I don’t think so, his iPad comments made it pretty clear where he thought computing was going.
“You know, I'm trying to think of a good analogy. When we were an agrarian nation, all cars were trucks, because that's what you needed on the farm.
But as vehicles started to be used in the urban centers, and America started to move into those urban and then suburban centers, cars got more popular, and innovations like automatic transmission and power steering and things that you didn't care about in a truck as much started to become paramount in cars.
They're still going to have a lot of value, but they're going to be used by one out of X people.
And this transformation is going to make some people uneasy. People from the PC world, like you and me, it's going to make us uneasy because the PC has taken us a long ways. It's brilliant.
But, and we like to talk about the post PC era, but when it really starts to happen, I think it's uncomfortable for a lot of people because it's change, and a lot of vested interests are going to change, and it's going to be different.
So I think that we're embarked on that. Is it the iPad? Who knows?
Will it happen next year or five years from now or seven years from now? Who knows? But I think we're heading in this direction.”
Steve Jobs at D8 - 06/01/2010

Almost 15 years later, he was right. Millions of people use phones and tablets is their main or only device, and there are tons of people who know how to use a smart phone perfectly but wouldn’t have the slightest clue how to use a Mac or PC.
And tons of innovations that have been made specifically for the car (iPad) have made there way over to the truck (Mac).
Everything from the Apple Silicon processor, the all day battery life, to the things being complained about in this very thread like instant on and lack of any flashing lights or spinning drives. Most of that stuff started in the iPhone iPod and iPad and the Mac is only now benefiting years later. And just like Steve said, traditional PC people are scared. Just look at the original post of this thread.
Steve Jobs was not a fan of trucks, though. :) The first trucks Apple released were after he’d left (Macintosh II’s). And, the first thing introduced after he returned was also not a truck (iMac). I think he knew he was on his way out and he had already informed the folks after him to make their own decisions and not try to do what they thought he would have done. He was simply being diplomatic at D8. “Is it the iPad? Who knows?” from the person that seemed to have an uncanny ability to be where the puck is going to be over and over again?
 
Apple has always had Nanny issues - thinks it knows what users should have without asking them about it. Often with - ahem...less-than-perfect...results.

As for '...a sign of Tim Cook's mediocrity...', I thought that was when he donated $1mil to the most recent Trump Inauguration Committee.
 
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I'm very amused by the people who want to block this thread or get almost offended that someone cares about a detail. Apple is all about the details and what separates them from other companies, in my eyes. For example, the one thing that will make me never buy an iPhone is how much slower it is to choose the space between two letters when you want to correct a word. I don't need a magnifier to find that, in Android I just press and 99,9% of the times it hits the right spot.

Details matter.
 
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I'm very amused by the people who want to block this thread or get almost offended that someone cares about a detail. Apple is all about the details and what separates them from other companies, in my eyes. For example, the one thing that will make me never buy an iPhone is how much slower it is to choose the space between two letters when you want to correct a word. I don't need a magnifier to find that, in Android I just press and 99,9% of the times it hits the right spot.

Details matter.

I’m not sure anyone wants to block the thread

In this case it’s not about a lack of detail. It is a focus on detail that when you open a laptop it just turns on without also having to hit the power button

OP just doesn’t like this design choice

And, as has been pointed out multiple times, one can simply disable this feature if they want

So it truly is a non issue

Typing on iPhones is an entirely different topic, though in that case you can just press between letters to put the cursor there, or you can hold to bring up the magnifier if you need to correct.

Maybe you haven’t typed on one in awhile?

I’d call that attention to detail as well
 
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I’m not sure anyone wants to block the thread

In this case it’s not about a lack of detail. It is a focus on detail that when you open a laptop it just turns on without also having to hit the power button

OP just doesn’t like this design choice

I counted at least one who wanted to put this thread on his ignore list. I didn't mean lock when I said block so I was a bit unclear. 🫣
OP clearly described why it's an issue even if there's a good reason behind it.

And, as has been pointed out multiple times, one can simply disable this feature if they want

"Simply" meant going into the terminal according to OP. Which I wouldn't call simply. If there was a simple setting in Settings I'd agree.

Typing on iPhones is an entirely different topic, though in that case you can just press between letters to put the cursor there, or you can hold to bring up the magnifier if you need to correct.

Maybe you haven’t typed on one in awhile?

I’d call that attention to detail as well

I'm just going by how my iPad Pro on iPadOS 18 does it. If I press on a word the marker goes either to the beginning or end of the word. If I want to correct it I have to hold to get the magnifier. But maybe there's a setting for that I have missed?
 
I counted at least one who wanted to put this thread on his ignore list. I didn't mean lock when I said block so I was a bit unclear. 🫣
OP clearly described why it's an issue even if there's a good reason behind it.
Having a problem with how a feature operates is not an ignore list trigger. However, claiming a pet-peeve (which is a non-issue to most users) as an indicator of the “mediocrity” of one of the objectively best CEOs in history is.
 
I'm just going by how my iPad Pro on iPadOS 18 does it. If I press on a word the marker goes either to the beginning or end of the word. If I want to correct it I have to hold to get the magnifier. But maybe there's a setting for that I have missed?

on my phone I need only press for a moment

in order to get it to the beginning or end of the word I have to very quickly tap and release as quickly as possible

I think we just have different way of interacting with touch screens...
 
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on my phone I need only press for a moment

in order to get it to the beginning or end of the word I have to very quickly tap and release as quickly as possible

I think we just have different way of interacting with touch screens...

Yeah, I might be more used to my Android phone where I just quickly tap. It's not a big thing in the grand scheme of things, but now that I've grown accustomed of it I can't really go back. Especially as that's a big part of my phone usage. I can overlook it on my iPad though.
 
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