AV Artists Complain Monterey 'Orange Dot' Security Feature Makes Macs Unsuitable for Live Performances

[AndyMacAndMic]

I agree — you should be able to limit the dot to one display, or to displays that have a menu bar, or something like that.

But, you were asking about better privacy than before Monterey? Which, yeah, it's better. Not by a huge margin, but better.

Ah, I missed that one. I basically was reacting with another post (before yours) in mind from someone who still persists in complaining about his/her security. Sorry for the clutter.

 

[jwsf28]

The electric tape will melt from the heat and destroy the lens...

The fact that you use ?‍♂️ in your post says a lot.

Hahahaha that was a good one ?

 

[riwalk71]

I remember that movie theaters used to flash little black dots on the screen (for 1-2 frames max) in order to make it easier to catch people who were recording movies. People completely lost their **** over those dots. Theaters removed it because people hated it that much.

This stupid orange dot is completely permanent and unmovable (and yes, I tried using undot, and it appears that that loophole has already been closed by Apple).

Don't forget that just because it doesn't bother you or just because you like the extra security doesn't mean that there is no legitimate reason for others to have complete control over what is displayed on every pixel of the screen.

 

[ihaveathought2021]

I remember that movie theaters used to flash little black dots on the screen (for 1-2 frames max) in order to make it easier to catch people who were recording movies. People completely lost their **** over those dots. Theaters removed it because people hated it that much.

This stupid orange dot is completely permanent and unmovable (and yes, I tried using undot, and it appears that that loophole has already been closed by Apple).

Don't forget that just because it doesn't bother you or just because you like the extra security doesn't mean that there is no legitimate reason for others to have complete control over what is displayed on every pixel of the screen.

There's a new solution now for 12.2: https://github.com/cormiertyshawn895/RecordingIndicatorUtility

 

[zarmanto]

I remember that movie theaters used to flash little black dots on the screen (for 1-2 frames max) in order to make it easier to catch people who were recording movies. People completely lost their **** over those dots. Theaters removed it because people hated it that much. ...

Your memory doesn't seem to match up to my own memory... nor does it match up to five seconds of internet research. Those are called "cue marks," and they were used to indicate to the projectionist that it's time to switch reels.

 

[freqrider]

So this dot also appears if you use an external mic/camera?

Yep

 

[freqrider]

Exactly what I came to ask! I mean, who would be using the built-in mic on a MacBook during a live performance?

Yep, any mic, soundcard, camera, video input.

 

[freqrider]

There needs to be a compromise. Obviously, asking for a means to disable a security and privacy feature is nonsense, as every attacker would use it to disguise the attack.
However, I do not see the need to display the dot on every single external display, as long as the main display is showing it, the information is available to the user.

Exactly

 

[freqrider]

Is it always in the top right of external displays? Could you make a fake output resolution where the dot ends up outside the real frame of the projected output?

Yes, you can create a mask