I've been using mine over the past few days and all I can say is that the 15 inch 2.7 MacBook Pro doesn't disappoint. the best "pro" feature... finally a screen that you can do color correction.
I've been using mine over the past few days and all I can say is that the 15 inch 2.7 MacBook Pro doesn't disappoint. the best "pro" feature... finally a screen that you can do color correction.
I'm not sure you can extract that conclusion out of a Jewish store that runs a special on one specific machine during their festive times.
It's not just B&H . . . A number of other retail outlets are also discounting 15" models. Not all configurations, but also more than just 1.
This still doesn't really indicate wether the product is unsuccessful. If this keeps on going and is replicated on the Apple site with an official price drop, that would send a signal.
Funny how these retailers give us a better deal than Apple themselves...
Apple is not losing ports somehow, they are actively removing them. This is what the company has done for a long time. Arguably there would be far less (or at least less quick) USB devices had Apple not invented the original iMac and created the need for the interface to succeed.
As usual, there will be users who will have old devices, unwilling to live with adapters until they discard their old accessories, but the majority will just live on, and move on. Everybody had over a year and two generations of the retina MacBook to understand where the industry was headed, and it's unlikely this will change and reverse again.
Sorry for drifting too far off topic. The real discussion here is the current bundle that B&H are running. Let's not turn this into a whining fest for people with an issue with the product.
What a load of nonsense.
MagSafe is an invaluable feature and has saved my laptops countless times in press rooms and on locations around the world.
Many professional photographers, like myself, travel around the world with our jobs, the pictures we take are time sensitive so we need to edit on site. That's why we need a powerful laptop. A desktop is great for the office, but a powerful laptop is the only option for working in the field.
No one is saying that USB-C isn't faster and also probably the future, however at the moment for myself and many other the lack of options without using a dongle is just an inconvenience. The current MacBook should have kept 2 USB-A and MagSafe and less people would be up in arms. But maybe I'm not a pro, I've only traveled the world and made a living as a photographer for over 20 years so what do I know of what I need from a laptop?
I understand your need to justify/rationalize your purchase. The truth hurts, sorry.
[doublepost=1482862972][/doublepost]there used to be a time when I would wish I had dedicated Windows machine on Mac Quality hardware. Now I wish I had Windows hardware like the Dell XPS 15 that ran OSX. Not a good time to be a computer user. IOS is still better than Windows, but I don't like the direction the hardware is going in. I have a 2012 and 2014 MBP and will probably get a cheap Win10 machine to try and ween myself off of Apple over then next few years.
Magsafe. Then you never have worked in a room full of pros with cables spread across the conference room table on a tight schedule. Most pros working with laptops have been saved multiple times by the magsafe connector. But I would be fine if the magsafe connector was only on the top end model with 17 inch display and 32 G RAM. Apple is right, there is no need for it on non-pro laptops. you know these little light things that are used to tweet, FaceTime, and check email.
- Pros should use a desktop. When your contract and the customer location is across the country or world, tugging a desktop along is not an option. Requiring a local desktop is not an option. Sometimes even getting an internet connection during the workday is problematic.
And now that data is passed over the same port, allowing your port to easily disconnect will pull your data and corrupt your drive. It's almost like Apple does things for good reasons. But you wouldn't know anything bout that.
Wow, because you just can't have a power cord? It has to also be a data port? Very short sighted of you, but then again you seem like you have Apple glasses on. The point is that you would have a MagSafe AND those 4 data ports. Face it, Apple kind of took a step back for some odd reason. The MagSafe was hands down the best power adapter out there and now we have a brittle solution that is no better and actually worse. If you use one of your data ports for power you can't use it for data huh?
Yeah, because when I think the future of computing what I imagine is every port doing 1 thing. That way if I want to do 5 things, I get to use 5 cables. Also, that way I have to have 5 different connector types. What an amazing future we would live in then, right?
Let's have 1 port for data, 1 port for video, 1 port for audio, 1 port for data. So convenient!
We are talking about a superior power cable, not your data ports. Try to keep up.
BTW - I recently purchased the base 15" from my local Apple Store (still within holiday return period). I just walked down there with my receipt and the B&H link and they refunded me $200 + tax. If anyone else here recently bought the new MBP, head down to Apple and save some bucks!
Yeah, and now that the same port that we use to charge our devices is used for data, what we really need is a port that disconnects easily. Because you know what pros like? They love corrupted drives from frequently incorrectly their drives. That's what pros love, right mr professional? Good job, genius.
Oh yeah, I forgot that nobody can do photography with the fastest quad core CPU and a high end graphics card. I forgot about that. LOL, of course that's true.
Oh yeah, I forgot how professionals don't have $10 to spend on a dongle for their professions and how they hate when companies make decisions that will have the long term effect of benefiting their field. I forgot about how that happens.
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The truth literally never hurts. LOL, sad.
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Yeah, it's too bad the MacBook Pro is the best hardware money can buy.
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And now that data is passed over the same port, allowing your port to easily disconnect will pull your data and corrupt your drive. It's almost like Apple does things for good reasons. But you wouldn't know anything bout that.
Your two points have nothing to do with one and other, you are the one who is confused.That's literally what I'm talking about. Wow, how sad that you can't even keep tabs on your own points. If we have MagSafe then we either need to go back to having single use ports or we have to accept that our multi-use ports will be super easy to disconnect. Whether or not you think the MagSafe connector is superior (even though you've literally only provided one reason why you think it's superior and ignored all other considerations that go into choosing a connector type), you have to choose between single use and multiple-usages.
How are you this confused?
I have no idea how you got from I like to keep MagSafe to where you ended up.
But just to make it clear for you.
I think it's a terrible idea to use the same port for charging as for data transfer. Not only because you then loose one port that could potentially be used for data, but because there is absolutely no need to do so. I'd like a dedicated charging port please, one with MagSafe technology to keep my Mac safe. Easy.
Of course I can afford an adapter, there is just no reason whatsoever at the moment why I should have to buy one as USB-A is still king for at least another few years. A MacBook Pro with 2 USB-C, 2 USB-A, MagSafe and HDMI would have been perfect in this interim period. Then the next major upgrade in 4 years can go all out USB-C if this port takes off and doesn't become another FireWire disaster...
I love fast laptops, that's great, but I'd prefer a fast laptop that has good connectivity and great features such as MagSafe. You know like the pro Macs used to have.
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Your two points have nothing to do with one and other, you are the one who is confused.
Leave MagSafe alone, that should be a port purely for charging the computer.
The other ports are data ports and they can be both single and multiple ports.
There is absolutely no sensible reason whatsoever to remove the MagSafe as a single port charging port.
Oh, what a great idea. Let's have one of our ports only get used for power so when we don't need to charge our device we don't get to have an extra all-purpose port. Instead we have to take up space that could have been used for a dedicated USB-C port with a single use power port. What a brilliant idea. How did Apple not think of such a limiting and backwards concept? GENIUS!
Actually you shouldn't do color correction on the 2016 MBP since it has a DeltaE average of 4 and maximum deviation of 9.5. It's pretty mediocre.
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When calibrated my 2015 and 2014 MBPs have a DeltaE average of 0.5 and about 2 of maximum although in the sRGB color space. These are adequate for color correction. Anything above 2 is not.
Apple is steering their customers into being ready for what may be a 'MacPad Pro' without any ports.Apple is not losing ports somehow, they are actively removing them.
I have no idea how you got from I like to keep MagSafe to where you ended up.
But just to make it clear for you.
I think it's a terrible idea to use the same port for charging as for data transfer. Not only because you then loose one port that could potentially be used for data, but because there is absolutely no need to do so. I'd like a dedicated charging port please, one with MagSafe technology to keep my Mac safe. Easy.
Of course I can afford an adapter, there is just no reason whatsoever at the moment why I should have to buy one as USB-A is still king for at least another few years. A MacBook Pro with 2 USB-C, 2 USB-A, MagSafe and HDMI would have been perfect in this interim period. Then the next major upgrade in 4 years can go all out USB-C if this port takes off and doesn't become another FireWire disaster...
I love fast laptops, that's great, but I'd prefer a fast laptop that has good connectivity and great features such as MagSafe. You know like the pro Macs used to have.
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There is absolutely no sensible reason whatsoever to remove the MagSafe as a single port charging port.
Look, its pretty obvious that you don't need or have use for a real computer. All you need is a little toy that you can carry around all day working on battery power with a few general purpose ports. Thats great, I am happy for you. Apple makes a good product for you. Whats wrong here is that you cannot understand that other people have use for real computers that do real processing and won't run all day on battery no matter what. And when used on battery Apple cripples processing speed to save battery life and that resulting lower processing speed is not acceptable. For some reasons you think Apple should not make a computer for our use. Now I don't know why you are being so divisive and so hateful to real computer users, but it does no one any good except to deter real or pro computer users from using and recommending Apple products. No one, that I know at least, wants to change Apple's low end products. All that we are asking for is for Apple to recognize that a substantial users base is not happy and is moving away from Apple products.
You don't understand it, which is fine, but that does not make it untrue.
Apple is steering their customers into being ready for what may be a 'MacPad Pro' without any ports.
'Pro' being the marketing equivalent of 'Extreme'.
Apple is steering their customers into being ready for what may be a 'MacPad Pro' without any ports.
'Pro' being the marketing equivalent of 'Extreme'.