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Babymetal

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sim667 said:
Typical male attitude, see girls, ask if they're legal..... its horribly sexist.
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Well, if someone (of either sex or gender) is going to dress and dance in a manner that is clearly provocative, some people are concerned about whether that person is legally of age to have such provocative appearance and moves appreciated in the manner in which they're presented. I, for one, would feel ookie if I watched a titillating performance by a girl then learned that she was underaged.

If you don't want to be seen and/or admired in a sexual manner, then don't present yourself to the world in a sexual fashion. Advice that goes for people of any sex or gender.
 
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Well, the precocious sexualisation of kids - and young teenagers - and the extraordinary pressures on kids to simulate the appearance of sexual awareness is something that I have massive reservations about.

Ah, @Tomorrow - with impressionable kids, it is not just a question of 'presenting yourself to the world in a sexual fashion'. Very often, there are subtle - and not so subtle pressures on you to do so - and there may be adults in your life, authority figures, revered role models, parents, and so on who put pressure on you to do so.
 
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BabyMetal is definitely legit.

Su-Metal, Moa-Metal and Yui-Metal started out in a J-pop group, and the manager of that group, Kobayashi (Koba-Metal) is a HUGE metalhead, (and metal is HUGE in Japan). He had the idea of fusing J-pop and Metal, and came up with this.

Background on their system. Girl-groups are put together when they are young, and by the time they graduate from middle school, they are too old to stay in that group. When BabyMetal started, Su-Metal was 14, and just graduated from middle school. Moa-Metal and Yui-Metal were 12, and still in that girl group and doing BabyMetal at the same time. BabyMetal just got huge to where they can do that full time.

If you think Gimme Chocolate is crazy, you should see them perform Death. For those not in the know, that song is a play on words. There is no true 'th' sound in Japan, as it is replaced by the 's' sound. So it sounds like 'Des'. However, Des is a word in Japan, meaning 'I am'. So the entire time when they are singing "Death" they are really singing "I am". So the lyrics are simple:

B A B Y M E T A L (spelling the name of the band)
Des! Des! Des! Su-Metal Des (I am, I am, I am, I am Su-Metal)
Des! Des! Des! Yui-Metal Des (I am, I am, I am, I am Yui-Metal)
Des! Des! Des! Moa-Metal Des (I am, I am, I am, I am Moa-Metal)
Des! Des! Des! Baby Metal Des (I am, I am, I am, We Are BabyMetal)

Like I said, play on words. In fact, here you go.

However, the Kami God band behind them is TIGHT. Nice instrumental from them. And keep in mind that this isn't their day job, as each one of them is in their own separate band as well.

Here's Mischief of the Metal Gods.



As far as 'being legal', these young ladies are well protected. And besides, when they're out on tour, well everyone knows how tight knit the metal community is. They are well looked after, and that's even by bands like Slipknot, 5DP, etc. Would you want one of them confronting them if you step up to these girls? Trust me, they're well protected.

BL.
 
I was referring to are they of a suitable age to be prancing around like that! I have a 20 year old son and an 11 year old daughter. 'Kids' are most defiantly not my thing!!
 
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I was referring to are they of a suitable age to be prancing around like that! I have a 20 year old son and an 11 year old daughter. 'Kids' are most defiantly not my thing!!
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Keep in mind that their act comes with the knowledge of what is popular in Japan and the world of J-Pop.

Here's a good litmus test. Head out to an Anime convention, and see how some of the kids are dressed. Then revisit BabyMetal. You'll find yourself enlightened.

BL.
 
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Here is a video of Yui Metal, one of the girls... I am amazed how educated and simple they are. Being Babymetal is just a thing they do.
 
So of course, when their first album came out the Fine Brothers caught hold of this, and made it part of their "YouTubers React" series. That's how BabyMetal really started to catch on:


So of course, 2 years later, BabyMetal gets their chance to respond, in "BabyMetal Reacts to 'YouTubers React to BabyMetal'". Enjoy!


BL.
 
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Gav2k said:
Are they legal...
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I'm sick and tired of these comments like this one. All members are 16 or 18 years old. How is that "children"? And how exactly do you get to decide that this is hypersexual? I don't, I think this is much less sexual than any other American music video. They're dressed much more appropriately unlike American stars, which, although often much older, barely wear any clothes at all (seriously, what the f*ck is the problem with people? upset over 16-years old casually dancing wearing not very exposed clothes, but not upset over a 23-year old woman who is naked on a wrecking ball??).

And may I remind you that once you're 12-13 or so, you're no longer a child. Liking someone who's 13 does not make you a pedophile, because THEY ARE NO LONGER CHILDREN as they have passed puberty (in most cases, at least). And as a final note, I'd like to remind you that the age of consent is 13 in Japan, so not only are those artists much older than the minimum age in order to be socially permitted to be sexually exposed, they aren't even showing any signs of sexualisation. They're just considered "cute". And yes, sexualisation of ACTUAL children is a problem, but this is not what we're talking about (and I'm not exactly sure how much of a problem it is in Japan, I'll have to research on that).

People on this planet are ****ing annoying.
 
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garirry said:
I'm sick and tired of these comments like this one. All members are 16 or 18 years old. How is that "children"? And how exactly do you get to decide that this is hypersexual? I don't, I think this is much less sexual than any other American music video. They're dressed much more appropriately unlike American stars, which, although often much older, barely wear any clothes at all (seriously, what the f*ck is the problem with people? upset over 16-years old casually dancing wearing not very exposed clothes, but not upset over a 23-year old woman who is naked on a wrecking ball??).

And may I remind you that once you're 12-13 or so, you're no longer a child. Liking someone who's 13 does not make you a pedophile, because THEY ARE NO LONGER CHILDREN as they have passed puberty (in most cases, at least). And as a final note, I'd like to remind you that the age of consent is 13 in Japan, so not only are those artists much older than the minimum age in order to be socially permitted to be sexually exposed, they aren't even showing any signs of sexualisation. They're just considered "cute". And yes, sexualisation of ACTUAL children is a problem, but this is not what we're talking about (and I'm not exactly sure how much of a problem it is in Japan, I'll have to research on that).

People on this planet are ****ing annoying.
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No one made a comparison with US pop culture. As you point out, the same criticisms can be made there too.
 
garirry said:
I'm sick and tired of these comments like this one. All members are 16 or 18 years old. How is that "children"? And how exactly do you get to decide that this is hypersexual? I don't, I think this is much less sexual than any other American music video. They're dressed much more appropriately unlike American stars, which, although often much older, barely wear any clothes at all (seriously, what the f*ck is the problem with people? upset over 16-years old casually dancing wearing not very exposed clothes, but not upset over a 23-year old woman who is naked on a wrecking ball??).

And may I remind you that once you're 12-13 or so, you're no longer a child. Liking someone who's 13 does not make you a pedophile, because THEY ARE NO LONGER CHILDREN as they have passed puberty (in most cases, at least). And as a final note, I'd like to remind you that the age of consent is 13 in Japan, so not only are those artists much older than the minimum age in order to be socially permitted to be sexually exposed, they aren't even showing any signs of sexualisation. They're just considered "cute". And yes, sexualisation of ACTUAL children is a problem, but this is not what we're talking about (and I'm not exactly sure how much of a problem it is in Japan, I'll have to research on that).

People on this planet are ****ing annoying.
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Read my second post and get off your high horse!
 
garirry said:
And may I remind you that once you're 12-13 or so, you're no longer a child. Liking someone who's 13 does not make you a pedophile, because THEY ARE NO LONGER CHILDREN as they have passed puberty (in most cases, at least).
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You're right. I believe the term is "hebephile." It's still illegal.
 
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