Ban on Galaxy Nexus U.S. Sales Upheld, Software Patch to Circumvent Forthcoming

[KnightWRX]

Siri came out about 9 months ago and now Google releases basically the same thing? For Google to take 9 months to develop and release something that relates directly to search points to either they are idiots for missing something so obvious or they copied.

The search box in question has been there since Android 1.0. The patent Apple is using is not a Siri patent, it's a Spotlight patent from 1999. You sir are confused on the issues here.

Apple argued that Siri, using their patented spotlight technology from 1999, was the reason people bought the iPhone 4S, and that Android's search box, available since day 1 in 2008, infringes that patent by searching both locally and on the web and thus the Galaxy Nexus steals sales of the iPhone 4S with Siri because it offers this "Search box" functionality.

Yes, Apple really argued that people opted for a Search box instead of Siri to get the injunction.

 

[Oletros]

Think further outside the box.

A couple of days out of the market place can be catastrophic for a new device to develop market traction.

Google Galaxy Nexus is not a new device, it will be very bad if there is an injuction for the Galaxy SIII or Nexus 7

 

[adder7712]

The search box in question has been there since Android 1.0. The patent Apple is using is not a Siri patent, it's a Spotlight patent from 1999. You sir are confused on the issues here.

Apple argued that Siri, using their patented spotlight technology from 1999, was the reason people bought the iPhone 4S, and that Android's search box, available since day 1 in 2008, infringes that patent by searching both locally and on the web and thus the Galaxy Nexus steals sales of the iPhone 4S with Siri because it offers this "Search box" functionality.

Yes, Apple really argued that people opted for a Search box instead of Siri to get the injunction.

It's astounding that simple convenience has to be sacrificed to appease a specific company.

 

[Sora]

I'm done with iOS hardware. I will continue to use and purchase OS X, but will now proceed to sell all 3 iPads my family owns and this evening I am taking away all of the 6-8 iPods from my wife and children. In return, I will be buying them the Nexus 7 tablets and Galaxy Nexus phones imported in to the US for a marginally higher price.

1. Your wife will leave you.
2. You will never see your grandkids

Why would you punish them like that?

 

[KnightWRX]

Google should have patented the slide-down notification bar

You mean USPTO 12/363,325 (filed January 2009, 2 and a half years before iOS 5 ?) :

It's coming.

 

[werdnanotroh]

Say what now?!

Glad Apple won. Glad Google can write their own code work-around to satisfy the courts. Sounds like a win-win. Apple's competitors need to see that they can't rip the boys from Cupertino off, but it also shows that with a little elbow grease, they can get the results they need to be competitive.

Pretty sure Apple is ripping off Nokia... Nokia phones have had search through all files (including contacts) for years. Surely before Apple. Why isn't Apple going after all the other mobile phone players?

And moreover, how is it even possible to patent a search? This is lunacy! How can you call any company wanting to search files on a phone a 'rip off'? Seriously...

 

[Sora]

Google Galaxy Nexus is not a new device, it will be very bad if there is an injuction for the Galaxy SIII or Nexus 7

Correct.

Please add to the end of my original statement:
....or an updated device maintaining current market hold or gaining market share.....

 

[KnightWRX]

Yeah, for SPOTLIGHT. It's as ridiculous as the whole automatic linking thing they sued HTC for, which I think they patented years ago for some old version of Mac OS prior to X. These are old "innovations" that show just how broken the patent system is. Why didn't they sue Microsoft after making fun of them for implementing it in Vista (probably because Vista was a bad product, and Android is not).

Better than Microsoft still using their VFAT patent for long filenames against ... well basically anyone. If you implement VFAT support (required to read most SD cards and USB Flash memory formatted through windows), Microsoft basically is using their 8.3 to long filename patent against you.

Yes, that is one patent Microsoft uses to blackmail Android vendors into paying them licensing fees. B&N refused to sign the NDA and disclosed the information publicly about which patents Microsoft was threatening over last year.

 

[werdnanotroh]

You mean USPTO 12/363,325 (filed January 2009, 2 and a half years before iOS 5 ?) :

It's coming.

Let's hope so! Apple is a disgrace.

 

[Sora]

Perhaps it's late and I'm not thinking clearly, but I can't see how this is anything but bullish behavior by Apple.

It's very bullish.
It's also very much required in order to maintain their position in the market place.
Fight and live. Acquiesce and die.

 

[wkdtime]

Some people don't understand the need to protect IP (intellectual property).

I'm not sure if it would help but, I liken infringing on IP to an assailant entering your home and raping your daughter.
As you wake up to screams of help coming from your child. You have two choices:
1. Go back to sleep
2. Fight like hell! (aka release the hounds, going HAM on the fool, etc etc).

I don't blame Apple. Someone tried to rape their child. When you mess with the cubs, you mess with the bear. Fight time.

Wow...im just gobsmacked with that analogy.

Get real.

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I'd have no problem if Google protected its design (I assume its patented) in fact they should file if it is. But I assume the Ad revenue dept within Google says ummm no you can't take one of our biggest accounts to court.... that may change once Apple kicks maps to the curb and changes the default search provider to 'Siri'...

Erm, the pull down notification is protected...since 2009 IIRC.

 

[Yvan256]

These legal battles are becoming so epic that some game developer should make an MMORPG featuring the Android Alliance vs the Apple Empire...or something.

I had an idea about a Command & Conquer/Starcraft-type of game where the factions are Nestlé, Kraft, Pepsico, Unilever (etc) and the resources are farming fields.

Build an army, train soldiers, buy tractors, upgrade irrigation systems, increase your marketing level, etc. I'd call it "Earth 2072".

 

[bhop123]

I love all the "I love my apple products (list them), or the OS, but am tired...mad... upset with Apple so i am selling all my stuff " comments. What a frickin troll joke!

Just like the patent infringement, can't see the forest through the trees.

This is a temporary injunction. If a patch could protect SamGoogleSung from patent infringement - why didn't they do it to begin with? These phones will be on the market again in no time - once they relieve the cause of infringement. So please, stop your whining.

 

[jonnysods]

That is a pretty hardcore move.

Will they ban then in Canada too?

 

[Oletros]

Some people don't understand the need to protect IP (intellectual property).

I'm not sure if it would help but, I liken infringing on IP to an assailant entering your home and raping your daughter.

IP infringing compared to a rape? Wow, just wow

 

[jonnysods]

You mean USPTO 12/363,325 (filed January 2009, 2 and a half years before iOS 5 ?) :

It's coming.

Right on. I wonder what Apple's response would be to this!

 

[NumberNine]

Apple is so lame. I still love my iPad2 but damn does Apple suck in some ways. The Nexus blows the doors of the iPhone in so many ways. iOS is a tired old bag.

 

[Oletros]

that may change once Apple kicks maps to the curb and changes the default search provider to 'Siri'...

What search engine is Siri?

 

[bhop123]

Apple is so lame. I still love my iPad2 but damn does Apple suck in some ways. The Nexus blows the doors of the iPhone in so many ways. iOS is a tired old bag.

Yeah you are right. Should probably keep your Nexus with its patent infringement software. Good call.

Oh don't forget - or do u even know- that your beloved iPad 2 runs on that old bag iOS.

 

[ChrisTX]

Apple is so lame. I still love my iPad2 but damn does Apple suck in some ways. The Nexus blows the doors of the iPhone in so many ways. iOS is a tired old bag.

I believe every mobile OS will go the way of the desktop OS. Just like iOS essentially looking the same in iOS 6, Jelly Bean also looks the same as ICS. Heck even windows Phone 8 looks like 7. Desktop OS's have looked essentially the same for years, I think mobile OS's will follow that same path. You don't have to dramatically change the UI with each new update. Apple knows this, and will update iOS accordingly. People tend to also forget that there will be at least 1 "killer new feature" in the next iPhone that hasn't been shown off in iOS 6. The fall will be a great time for mobile buyers.

 

[javaGuru]

Android open source project began in 2003. It is completely plausible that the functionality was already in place prior to that.

Apple actually filed for the patent in January of 2000.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8086604.PN.&OS=PN/8086604&RS=PN/8086604

 

[KnightWRX]

Right on. I wonder what Apple's response would be to this!

In the end, it's probably a method patent, and Apple would simply have to use a different method to implement it. As an iOS user, I really don't want it to go, because I like the new notification center, vs the old "Hey, I'm an annoying notification pop-up".

 

[adder7712]

I had an idea about a Command & Conquer/Starcraft-type of game where the factions are Nestlé, Kraft, Pepsico, Unilever (etc) and the resources are farming fields.

Build an army, train soldiers, buy tractors, upgrade irrigation systems, increase your marketing level, etc. I'd call it "Earth 2072".

Coca-Cola = Nestea?

Wut.

But it's interesting to know that most of the foods you eat are monopolised by 4-5 companies.

 

[bushido]

Siri came out about 9 months ago and now Google releases basically the same thing? For Google to take 9 months to develop and release something that relates directly to search points to either they are idiots for missing something so obvious or they copied.

i could care less as a customer if google "stole/got" the idea of Siri. if they improve it i'm all up for it. its great to have options and maybe even better alternatives

 

[bergmef]

You mean USPTO 12/363,325 (filed January 2009, 2 and a half years before iOS 5 ?) :

It's coming.

Has it been issued yet? I thought it was still in prosecution phase (rewording claims ... etc).