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Banned from BITOG

annk said:
I'm just incredibly curious about what you'd have to say on an oil forum (other than a personally derogative comment to another member) to get banned.
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They all try to run these exotic synthetic oils for as far as 10,000 miles on one OCI (oil change interval). If you say something like: "Redline oil will never make it to 6000 miles without causing extensive wear numbers," they will get extremely angry. Or if you tell them that you like to change your oil often, say like every 3000 miles to keep your engine clean, they interpret that as meaning you don't trust the oil and they find that offensive.
 
MACDRIVE said:
The first time I was banned for: Insulting Mobil 1 oil by equating it with paint thinner.
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Not only is it a paint thinner, it's a delicious beverage!


MACDRIVE said:
Or if you tell them that you like to change your oil often, say like every 3000 miles to keep your engine clean, they interpret that as meaning you don't trust the oil and they find that offensive.
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Do these people have stills on the roof instead of oil filters?
 
iMeowbot said:
Do these people have stills on the roof instead of oil filters?
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They have a separate forum to discuss oil filters too. Oh and I should mention that it is a common practice for them to cut open the oil filter to check for pleat uniformity.
 
MACDRIVE said:
If you say something like: "Redline oil will never make it to 6000 miles without causing extensive wear numbers," they will get extremely angry.
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"will never" = general statement that applies in all cases - risky to say without exhausive authority and proof, and even then it's daring some lunatic in some rare corner of the the internet to claim oh yes they did 100 000 miles on one oil. In short, expect to be flamed (or banned :)

MACDRIVE said:
Or if you tell them that you like to change your oil often, say like every 3000 miles to keep your engine clean, they interpret that as meaning you don't trust the oil and they find that offensive.
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Expression of personal preference, without making blanket statement - generally acceptable. Except when used to subtly (or not so subtly) influence other people's choices - then it can arouse indigination.

Damn, these redneck geeks are a thin-skinned and overprotective bunch aren't they? Nothing like Apple geeks at all eh?

This thread is the most fun I've had in a while :)
 
I love the forum rules. So friendly and welcoming.

I realize that we're a Mac forum, but we also discuss other issues and are a fun community (most of the time). But, based on a brief perusal of that forum (brief simply because I kept lapsing into unconsciousness), they seem to discuss only motor oil and related products.

Nice cure for insomnia, though.
 
jsw said:
I love the forum rules. So friendly and welcoming.
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I love this line:

Members agree that any such right deemed not extinguished by this rule, are irrevocably waived.
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At first, it makes sense, then it doesn't, then it still doesn't ...

What's the point of declaring a right not extinguished (whatever that means) if you're gonna make people irrevocably waive it anyway?
 
annk said:
In the world of motor oil forums, :eek: , is comparing an oil product to paint thinner, the equivalent of making a personal insult on for example this forum?
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Without going into too much detail, I made that reference to paint thinner because some of the members over there have commented on how Mobil 1 oil makes their engines run noisy (which I attributed to a low viscosity within grade causing improper valvetrain lubrication). But anyway, all the Mobil 1 fans came unglued after I made that statement and they never got over it. :p
 
MACDRIVE said:
Without going into too much detail, I made that reference to paint thinner because some of the members over there have commented on how Mobil 1 oil makes their engines run noisy (which I attributed to a low viscosity within grade causing improper valvetrain lubrication). But anyway, all the Mobil 1 fans came unglued after I made that statement and they never got over it. :p
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So, if they think that Mobil 1 makes their engines run noisy, why not switch?? Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and motor oil is one of those items which everyone can have their own opinion. My dad didn't like Castrol, he felt it broke down far too soon before the next OCI. Me, I like Quaker State. I'm currently using the high mileage version.

How did they handle the news from Consumer Reports that most oils last longer than 3000 miles?

The sad truth about oil and filters, you really don't know how effective or ineffective they are until months or years down the road. And if the engine does fail, you spin a bearing or score the crankshaft, how can you positively declare the brand of oil you used 6 months ago as the culprit today?
 
MACDRIVE said:
Without going into too much detail, I made that reference to paint thinner because some of the members over there have commented on how Mobil 1 oil makes their engines run noisy (which I attributed to a low viscosity within grade causing improper valvetrain lubrication). But anyway, all the Mobil 1 fans came unglued after I made that statement and they never got over it. :p
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Oil fans coming unglued, heh - good stuff. :D
 
MACDRIVE said:
Ok in order to pose a question to everyone on MR, I'm going to have to suffer some embarrassment. :eek: I have been banned from the BITOG forum for the second time.

BITOG stands for Bob Is The Oil Guy.

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

The first time I was banned for: Insulting Mobil 1 oil by equating it with paint thinner. The second time I was banned for: Stating that 5W-20 oil provides no long term protection without providing a reference to backup my claim. Now that you have all the boring detailes, I can move towards my question.

I was able to rejoin the forum after being banned the first time by creating an email sub account, (SBC lets you have up to 25 sub accounts), but a few days ago when I try to rejoin again by using another email sub account, my membership application was denied. So I'm thinking to myself: Hmmm, they must have gotten some kind of new software to detect me. Maybe they're able to detect my IP address, to where as before, they weren't.

Now that my curiousity has overcome my embarrassment, I'm able to pose this question: How do they know it's me? :confused:

Keep in mind that I have no intention of ever joining the forum again, (since no one over there listens to my advise anyway) I'm just curious as to why I fooled them the first time, but not the second time. :D
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That place sounds like it's run by a bunch of tools. We do you keep trying to go back so bad? :confused:
 
Josh said:
That place sounds like it's run by a bunch of tools. We do you keep trying to go back so bad? :confused:
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Hot wet oil runs through his veins.

His father passed down to him the joys of arguing over 15w30 and 20w35.
 
That's what happens when you go to a website run by a bunch of enthusiasts. They have you over a barrel.





:p
 
Roger1 said:
That's what happens when you go to a website run by a bunch of enthusiasts.
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Especially enthusiasts who are so obviously down a quart...
 
MACDRIVE said:
if you tell them that you like to change your oil often, say like every 3000 miles to keep your engine clean...
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...I'd say you were wasting your money and time. Depending on your oil, of course. (Delvac 1, 10k intervals. My motor will make 300k easy like this.)
 
xsedrinam said:
Depends on the viscosity in which they live.
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Maybe they are a Mobil clan moving from place to place? For all we know, they live in the Quaker state. Just a thought.
 
MACDRIVE said:
The first time I was banned for: Insulting Mobil 1 oil by equating it with paint thinner. The second time I was banned for: Stating that 5W-20 oil provides no long term protection without providing a reference to backup my claim.
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And to be quite frank, the ban was probably warranted. Your comment regarding Mobil 1 is complete nonsense and I'm highly suspect of the other, although I'm willing to listen to a well-researched claim. You're probably dealing with a crowd of people who appreciate intelligent discussion, and silly comments such as yours are simply irritating. As I type this, I'm still irritated by your Mobil 1 comment. :rolleyes:

As a side note, I've used Mobil 1 in my VW for seven years. I change the oil every 20,000 miles, and the filter every 10,000 miles. After 151,000 miles, it still runs perfect and engine compression is well within specification.
 
Geez...a guy makes one bad comment about Mobil 1 on their forum and he gets piston...
 
I am stuck on the idea that there is a forum about petroleum products and that you hang out there. ;)
 
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