Barclays: All 2019 iPhones May Lack 3D Touch, New AirPods and Lower-Priced HomePod to Launch Next Year

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    Barclays analyst Blayne Curtis and his associates traveled across Asia last week to meet with companies within Apple's supply chain. Today, they shared new predictions based on the information they gathered.

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    Highlights from their research note to investors, obtained by MacRumors:
    Barclays says it's "widely understood" that 3D Touch will be removed from iPhones with OLED displays in 2019--aka the third-generation iPhone X and second-generation "iPhone X Plus." However, they caution that the plans aren't finalized yet, so they could change.
    Earlier this year, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said 3D Touch won't be a feature on the rumored 6.1-inch iPhone with an LCD, part of the upcoming 2018 lineup. So, by the sound of it, 3D Touch won't be a feature on any 2019 iPhones, assuming Apple sticks with the same three models expected in 2018.

    While the lack of 3D Touch on the 6.1-inch iPhone would make sense, given expectations that it will essentially be a budget iPhone X, it's not entirely clear why it may be removed from the more expensive OLED models next year. As a somewhat hidden feature, perhaps Apple no longer finds it essential.
    "AirPod 2" will launch in the fourth quarter of 2019. Meanwhile, an optional wireless charging case for the original AirPods, and Apple's new AirPower charging mat, will be available this September.
    This prediction is rather confusing, as back in February, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman said Apple will release new AirPods with a new wireless chip and "Hey Siri" support as early as this year. Gurman also said a subsequent pair of AirPods with water resistance would be released as early as next year.

    One possibility is that Apple will add "Hey Siri" support to the existing AirPods this fall by way of a software update, without a new wireless chip, but it's unclear if the current W1 chip can support the feature. In that case, Apple might elect to continue referring to them as first-generation AirPods.

    In that scenario, the "AirPods 2" that Barclays is referring to could be the water-resistant pair that Gurman also believes could launch in 2019. However, this is admittedly a bit of a stretch, so it remains to be seen.
    Barclays expects the launch of a "cheaper HomePod in 2019," with "broader appeal." The analysts say HomePod sales continue to "underwhelm," with less than five million sold since it launched in January.
    Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, along with some Chinese publications, have also claimed that Apple has considered a lower-priced HomePod. One rumor suggested that it could be a Siri-enabled Beats speaker priced around $149 to $199.
    Barclays says it "does see the potential for the new iPhones to support pen input," without naming the Apple Pencil specifically.
    Taiwanese research firm TrendForce predicted that the higher-end 2018 iPhones will be compatible with the Apple Pencil.

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  3. dannyyankou macrumors 604

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    The 3D Touch trackpad is reason enough to keep it.
     
  4. RedGala macrumors regular

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    If 3D Touch is removed, I will never buy any of those devices, and just settle for last year's iPhone X. My habit of pressing hard on screens for special actions is too ingrained in me.

    I do see how removing it would be more consistent with the iPad relying on long presses to activate peeks and pops.
     
  5. lsutigerfan1976 macrumors 68020

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    Never used that feature myself. As a matter of fact, i always forget that feature is even there.
     
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    Really hope this isn't true and they keep 3D touch around. I use it all the time and find it extremely useful.
     
  8. mac1984user macrumors 6502a

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    Well, it seems I’ll miss out on 3D Touch completely, as I’ve currently got an iPhone 6 and had eyes on the upcoming LCD model. Oh well...
     
  9. casperes1996 macrumors 68040

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    3D Touch is a selling point for me. I'd hate to see it go. I'm expecting the supply chain may be confused by Apple implementing 3D Touch in a new way using different facilities maybe? - At least I'd hope for the feature to stay.
     
  10. BMcCoy macrumors 65816

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    'long press' on my iphone SE does the majority of the things '3d touch' does on the X..

    not all, but the majority.
     
  11. Agit21 macrumors regular

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    3d touch is useless, press and hold works better.
    In iOS 12 there is zero reason for 3d touch since you can press and hold the spacebar and move the cursor around.
     
  12. ZEEN0j macrumors 65816

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    Apple will not remove 3D Touch. First you spend years developing the technology and the software. Then you keep on adding it to many more devices than the Apple Watch (macbook, Magic Trackpad, iPhone). Then you slowly with updates add more features. To then out of nowhere remove it. Well spent money and time
     
  13. rjtyork macrumors regular

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    I’m shocked at how much I use 3D Touch and how almost nobody else seems to even know about it. It sounds like I’ll definitely be happy to just stick with my 8+ for multiple years. This phone is by far my favorite iPhone I’ve ever had.
     
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    I don't use it widely, but I use it often for a few things: Moving the cursor in text (could technically be done with a long press as it was in a beta on non-3D Touch iPhone models before being removed and is done with two fingers on the iPad), for previewing website links, for quick replies to messages, and for watching live photos. It's also really nice in combination with the haptic sensor for pressing things like the flashlight button on the iPhone X. Makes it feel more tactile. Would the taptic engine also be removed or are they just replacing the display tech with long presses in a software solution? Perhaps they will use machine learning to figure out your intent? Anything to save a buck.
     
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    the lack of 3D touch would be a sad shame. Really hoped it was coming to the new iPad Pro's :/
     
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    I don't think Apple would remove 3D Touch without compensating it with a similar feature. If they do just get rid of it entirely, it would be sorely missed by me. But I'm skeptical of this news.
     
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    I'll be colored surprised if they actually chuck 3D Touch. It being a must-have feature for me aside, I just doubt it.
     
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    I hope Airpods come much sooner than that.
     
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    I use 3D Touch on the daily! I find it way more useful than any functionality a stylus would/could provide. I'm speaking from my opinion and experience. I've owned the Pencil by 53 since it was sold on their site ~4 years ago. I primarily used it on iPad before the Pencil was introduced. I've since tried it on my various iPhone models over the years and just can't get into using it consistently on iPhone. Not to mention, it's just another thing to keep up with/carry.
     
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    I like the functionality obtained by currently using 3D touch, however I cannot see any loss in functionality if they just switched to a long press.. I imagine there would be cost and space savings by switching to that.. kindof a sunk cost argument for the development of 3D touch, but I am not sure what percentage of folks that own devices with this ability even know they can use it..
     
  21. Radon87000 macrumors 604

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    Long press makes 3D touch redundant. Some 3DT evangelists are going to find this a bitter pill to swallow. @I7guy
     
  22. magicschoolbus macrumors 6502a

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    3D touch... I use it constantly.. however it always seemed one of those features that would be 100x more useful if those sub menus were customizable.
     
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    I can appreciate your position, but many of us would respectfully disagree. Fortunately the issue isn't about what CAN be done... but HOW it is done. End of the day as long as Apple implements/improves overall usability... it probably won't matter.
     
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    I wonder if Apple might implement 3D touch in a different way that doesn't require a pressure sensor.

    One idea I had was... well, when you push harder on the screen with your finger, your finger flattens out a bit, causing the area you are touching to increase. Maybe they use this to determine pressure instead? I'm not sure it would work as well as the current implementation, and it wouldn't work when using a touch stylus, but it's a possibility.

    I would definitely miss 3D touch if they removed it. I use it all the time!
     

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