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If OLED was that good, XDR would be OLED and not Mini LED. Mini LED is much better tech even if you don't want to see it. Why do you think there are no real OLED screens an everything is LED or Mini LED?
Agree for color accuracy and consistency can't beat Apple XDR display.
With a result of 98.7 percent coverage, the Pro Display XDR fell just shy (really, within the margin of error) of its advertised 99 percent coverage. That's well higher than even the OLED-based Alienware 55. In fact, despite testing way outside my normal parameters just to see if there was anything that would throw the Pro Display XDR off its game, I couldn't get it through one ColorChecker accuracy test returning results above a score of 1.0 dE. That's incredibly impressive for a monitor that didn't require any settings adjustments out of the box.
Not to mention OLED can't even compete in with LCD based displays on HDR due to power, burn-in, and other concerns.
Biggest gripe though and probably why current iPhone and past OLED phones suffer from greenish tint is they don't actually use true RGB pixels. Works fine at smaller and more tightly packed phone screens but probably not look so great on much larger iPad screen!
"PenTile relies on the human eye design - if you reduce the number of blue subpixels, you barely reduce the image quality. Of course a lot of people do not like PenTile. The pattern is somewhat visible even at high resolutions, and this can be annoying for some people. Samsung is also being accused of marketing a "false" resolution.
But even Samsung admits that a real-stripe RGB matrix is better than Pentile, for example here's some marketing image from Samsung showing how a non-Pentile display (the Super AMOLED Plus) is better than the pentile Super AMOLED:" https://www.oled-info.com/pentile
 
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Thats correct, I'm not and I don't want to for many reasons. I also don't have OLED TV but I have the flagship SONY LCD tv. The only OLED product I have and use is the Apple Watch.
Mini LED tech is superior to OLED in many ways. OLED is just a wrong stop. Micro LED is the way to go.
My over-2-years old XS max is the best phone screen I’ve ever used. It’s OLED. I’m susceptible to migraines, no problems with this phone. I have a 2011 Panasonic 1080P plasma as my only TV. Bought it new, shipped it cross country when I moved. No burn in, but people were insisting that plasmas would all die from burn in. I don’t know that OLEDs wouldn’t have some problems at the iPad size, but I think the concerns are overstated.
 
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I am really happy with my 2018 12.9‘s LCD display. It’s got amazing colors, its sharp at the distances I use it, so literally any new screen tech will simply be a bonus. Even the performance of the 2018/2020 iPad Pros is over the top, so performance gains from the A14X or later powered iPad Pros will also be simply a bonus. The iPad Pro has been a product ahead of its time the last 2 generations.
 
I doubt this rumour considering the pixel density required to make OLED look any good is well above what the current iPad retina pixel density is. 450-500ppi (similar to iPhone) needed for a pentile OLED vs the current 260ppi. That’s going to be something like a 5K resolution on the 12.9
 
If OLED was that good, XDR would be OLED and not Mini LED. Mini LED is much better tech even if you don't want to see it. Why do you think there are no real OLED screens an everything is LED or Mini LED?

The Pro Display XDR is not MiniLED, though it does have local dimming zones like MiniLED displays do.

And OLED is "that good", which is why it is in the $40,000 Sony critical reference monitors that the XDR (tried) to compare itself to at the launch.
 
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Actually, I think they didn't. I think they did compare it to TFT model and not OLED.

Sure, tons of people disagree with me here but I for one really don't want OLED on iPad or even iMac or anything with a big screen for that matter. LCD has flaws but OLED has more.

:)

The Pro Display XDR is not MiniLED, though it does have local dimming zones like MiniLED displays do.

And OLED is "that good", which is why it is in the $40,000 Sony critical reference monitors that the XDR (tried) to compare itself to at the launch.
 
The Pro Display XDR is not MiniLED, though it does have local dimming zones like MiniLED displays do.

And OLED is "that good", which is why it is in the $40,000 Sony critical reference monitors that the XDR (tried) to compare itself to at the launch.
Thank you so much for sharing this! I just trusted that what the other posters saying the XDR was mini-led, not realizing that was false information.

Watch, when Apple brings OLED to ipads, a lot of people will declare it a revolution.
 
Actually, I think they didn't. I think they did compare it to TFT model and not OLED.

Apple used the (now discontinued) Sony BVM-X300 as their comparison, which is an OLED.


You might be thinking of Vincent Teoh at HDTVTest, who compared the XDR to a Sony BVM-HX310, which is a dual-layer LCD.



I agree with you that I would probably pass on OLED for a Mac display due to the dock and the menu bar. I would not be so worried about burn-in, but there probably would be issues with temporary image retention after 6-8 hours of continuous use in a single session (which could be mitigated via a refresh cycle like my LG TV does both at power-down with a minor one and then a more major one it does after a certain number of hours).

I would take an OLED on an iPad, though.
 
geez. By 2022 I'll be buying an Android tablet :
1) the arm processor will be just as fast as Apples A series
2) it will be 120hz screen
3) it will have an SD slot for expanded storage
4) 5G

 
geez. By 2022 I'll be buying an Android tablet :
1) the arm processor will be just as fast as Apples A series
2) it will be 120hz screen
3) it will have an SD slot for expanded storage
4) 5G

Good for you
 


Last month, Korean website The Elec reported that Apple plans to release new iPad Pro models featuring OLED displays in the second half of 2021, noting that Samsung and LG are already in the process of developing the displays.

iPad-pro-top-feature.jpg

However, following recent discussions with Apple suppliers, Barclays analysts Blayne Curtis, Thomas O'Malley, Tim Long, and their associates said that an iPad with an OLED display does not appear to be in the works for 2021. In a new research note, shared with MacRumors, the analysts said a launch is unlikely until 2022 at the earliest.

The timeframe offered by Barclays certainly sounds more reasonable, as many rumors suggest that Apple plans to release at least one iPad Pro model with Mini-LED backlighting in the first half of 2021, and it would seem rather quick for Apple to switch display technologies twice within the same year with the release of OLED models.

Apple already uses OLED displays for the iPhone X and newer and all Apple Watch models, with benefits over LCDs including higher brightness, improved contrast, increased power efficiency, wider viewing angles, and more.

Apple last refreshed the iPad Pro in March, but it was a relatively minor update, with new features including an A12Z Bionic chip that is essentially an A12X chip with an extra GPU core enabled, an Ultra Wide camera, a LiDAR Scanner, and better sounding microphones. Prior to that, the iPad Pro received a major redesign in October 2018, gaining slimmer bezels, Face ID, and a USB-C port instead of a Lightning connector.

Barclays analysts were the first to claim that Apple was planning to stop including a charger with iPhones. In the past, they also accurately revealed True Tone coming to the iPhone 8 and iPhone X, the removal of the headphone jack adapter with iPhone XS and iPhone XR models, and the removal of 3D Touch on all iPhone 11 models.

Article Link: Barclays: iPad With OLED Display Unlikely to Launch Until 2022 at Earliest
Great. I can no longer use the latest iPhones due to the OLED screen and their PWM related headache issues, now the same thing is about to happen with the iPads. :sigh:
 
geez. By 2022 I'll be buying an Android tablet :
1) the arm processor will be just as fast as Apples A series
2) it will be 120hz screen
3) it will have an SD slot for expanded storage
4) 5G

Well the first is not happening since the A13 beats Qualcomm's best 2021/2022 SoCs and Apple will have an A14X or even A15X in their 2022 tablets.

As for the second and fourth, nice to see Android will be in 2022 where iPad Pro has been since 2017. Same with 5G, with iPad certainly going there in 2021.
 
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geez. By 2022 I'll be buying an Android tablet :
1) the arm processor will be just as fast as Apples A series
2) it will be 120hz screen
3) it will have an SD slot for expanded storage
4) 5G

and it will still have bad software apps depending on what model you get. if you use social media forget about using an android tablet.
 
You are right, I was thinking about 310. My bad, sorry.
As for OLED, I like to keep my products for long so iMac definitely no no and iPad not so much either. The degradation and reduction in brightness and blue channel dying faster is just one of the main factors that I don't want to accept as a trade off. Sure, better blacks (true black) etc. but at the cost of shorter lifespan and higher price.
Unless the tech improves massively (which I don't see happening) then the future is Mini LED and later Micro LED.
Thats just me though. :)


Apple used the (now discontinued) Sony BVM-X300 as their comparison, which is an OLED.


You might be thinking of Vincent Teoh at HDTVTest, who compared the XDR to a Sony BVM-HX310, which is a dual-layer LCD.



I agree with you that I would probably pass on OLED for a Mac display due to the dock and the menu bar. I would not be so worried about burn-in, but there probably would be issues with temporary image retention after 6-8 hours of continuous use in a single session (which could be mitigated via a refresh cycle like my LG TV does both at power-down with a minor one and then a more major one it does after a certain number of hours).

I would take an OLED on an iPad, though.
 
Then what is the point of even using Mini-LED if they are going to go OLED right after? Just use OLED now. 😃

This doesn’t make sense.
Who knows what's in the pipeline but the mini-LED products out now don't make me feel optimistic. While much better than LED-LCD, and potentially higher full-screen brightness than OLED, they still suffer from blooming and are much less efficient than OLED. Scaled down to fit the power envelope of an iPad, will mini-LED actually be brighter than the XR OLED screens on the iPhone 12? I doubt it. I think my 2018 iPP can hold out another 18-14 months...
 
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